Draugoth
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Final Fantasy VII Remake, Final Fantasy XVI and Silent Hill 2 Remake can only be released on Xbox if Sony allows it
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FunkMiller
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NonPhixion
Member
Did those dumb fucks at MS really include an IP sony owns as an example of "this agreement"
Hhahahahahahhahaha
Hhahahahahahhahaha
hyperbertha
Member
How is this in any way comparable to what MS is doing? 
Coloress_Kafka
Member
So the ridiculous rumors of FF 7 remake coming to Switch seem a lot less ridiculous now……
Dick Jones
Gold Member
Spider-Man written without the dash. Sickened
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Goalus
Member
They decided to money-hat Activision instead.
Why so upset?
Are you afraid?
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Punished Miku
Gold Member
Not true. The dynamics of the current market make it extremely favorable to the dominant system.
If we assume sales splits are still around 80/20 in favor of PS, then Sony pays SQEX enough to offset 20% sales. SQEX gets the 80% sales plus a check. Xbox has to cover 80% sales. It's probably 3x more expensive to get a timed exclusive for them, or more. And then Xbox only sells a smaller amount as well. Do this over and over and you bleed your competition dry from a position of market dominance. The systemic forces favor Sony. It's preventing any other players from competing directly on merit. They're priced out.
Makes a lot more sense for MS to invest in owning their own publisher than bleeding money on these losing deals. Rumor is they had to pay $100 million for 1 year of Tomb Raider last gen. It's just not worth it. Better to invest in acquisitions you own.
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a multicultural team of v
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It cannot be overstated, but
NonPhixion
Member
Yes Ma'am. Laughing at their poor example has me upsettingly afraid for the next poor example they try and use.
Astral Dog
Member
And people say exclusives are dead! Square Enix has a deal with Sony they can't cutt off with moneybags from Microsoft, simple as that
Although i was expecting FFVIIR to arrive on Xbox by now, looks like the exclusivity for Final Fantasy is a way bigger deal for Sony and PlayStation and there is a lot invested on it, a lot of PS fans on social media believe Sony is about to purchase Square supposedly.
A few games will stay on PlayStation with an iron grip, that's business
Although i was expecting FFVIIR to arrive on Xbox by now, looks like the exclusivity for Final Fantasy is a way bigger deal for Sony and PlayStation and there is a lot invested on it, a lot of PS fans on social media believe Sony is about to purchase Square supposedly.
A few games will stay on PlayStation with an iron grip, that's business
Alan Silvestro
Member
But they can port FFVII REMAKE PLUS TURBO, FFXVI ALPHA, SH2 GAIDEN, etc...
Thebonehead
Banned
Interesting - Further on it gives you the gamepass numbers.
4.54 Since its launch in 2017, Game Pass has gradually grown to approximately 25 million subscribers. As above, this is 10 million fewer subscribers (28%) than what was forecasted for Fiscal Year 2022.331 Much of the growth so far has come from []. [] Xbox console users account for approximately []% of subscribers across all Game Pass tiers. Over the period July 2019-July 2022, []% of Game Pass Ultimate subscribers (who are entitled to play both the Game Pass console and PC catalogue) accessed Game Pass through a PC, and [] ([]% in total) accessed Game Pass Ultimate via xCloud.
4.54 Since its launch in 2017, Game Pass has gradually grown to approximately 25 million subscribers. As above, this is 10 million fewer subscribers (28%) than what was forecasted for Fiscal Year 2022.331 Much of the growth so far has come from []. [] Xbox console users account for approximately []% of subscribers across all Game Pass tiers. Over the period July 2019-July 2022, []% of Game Pass Ultimate subscribers (who are entitled to play both the Game Pass console and PC catalogue) accessed Game Pass through a PC, and [] ([]% in total) accessed Game Pass Ultimate via xCloud.
SlimeGooGoo
Party Gooper
Thebonehead
Banned
Also a nugget that they are still working to bring Ubisoft into the fold.
4.62 Besides, Microsoft welcomes additional subscription services on the Xbox. EA Play is available on Xbox – and can be purchased either as part of the Xbox Game Pass Ultimate subscription or on a standalone basis. EA Play is also available on PlayStation. Microsoft is also working to bring a new multi-game Ubisoft offering to the Xbox in coming months. The expectation that Microsoft would have the incentive to foreclose rival subscription services is entirely at odds with the fact that Microsoft is working to foster entry on console of one of these services.
4.62 Besides, Microsoft welcomes additional subscription services on the Xbox. EA Play is available on Xbox – and can be purchased either as part of the Xbox Game Pass Ultimate subscription or on a standalone basis. EA Play is also available on PlayStation. Microsoft is also working to bring a new multi-game Ubisoft offering to the Xbox in coming months. The expectation that Microsoft would have the incentive to foreclose rival subscription services is entirely at odds with the fact that Microsoft is working to foster entry on console of one of these services.
What has happened to reading comprehension? How did the guy who send the tweet, and the people who are sharing/commenting on it, ever managed to finish elementary school?
The actual document literally talks about TIMED EXCLUSIVITY. It's called timed exclusivity exactly for that reason, meaning during that duration, certain platforms are excluded.
It's true that the writings from Microsoft are intentionally made to make this sound like permanent exclusives. But please everyone, use your brain and realize that Microsoft's intention is to mislead the public and the consumers. (see the inclusion of Bloodborne for further proof regarding this).
There's no difference between The Medium being timed exclusive for Xbox/PC, and Silent Hill 2 Remake being timed exclusive for PS5/PC.
The actual document literally talks about TIMED EXCLUSIVITY. It's called timed exclusivity exactly for that reason, meaning during that duration, certain platforms are excluded.
It's true that the writings from Microsoft are intentionally made to make this sound like permanent exclusives. But please everyone, use your brain and realize that Microsoft's intention is to mislead the public and the consumers. (see the inclusion of Bloodborne for further proof regarding this).
There's no difference between The Medium being timed exclusive for Xbox/PC, and Silent Hill 2 Remake being timed exclusive for PS5/PC.
ProtoByte
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Very, very interesting. No wonder Spencer was backtracking on the Gamepass Prophecy... but themnusing it seemingly as a reason as to why they should be allowed to buy moar says that Microsoft still believes it, and that Spencer's spinning the outlook to the public, most of which won't pay attention to this.
I've read some of these documents, but I've got to give this all a thorough read soon.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
feynoob
Banned
We are bored.
The game was timed exclusive. We just dont know how long.
It might be the entire remake until it comes to xbox.
NonPhixion
Member
It took 22 years for the original FFVII to show up on an xbox console.
We should probably wait 20 more years before we start crying foul about the remake, right?
We should probably wait 20 more years before we start crying foul about the remake, right?
Punished Miku
Gold Member
Really hope we see that Octopath 2 has a similar agreement so that dumb talking point can die.
Punished Miku
Gold Member
Nah, that's the FTC and Sony actually.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
It probably does, but isn't a big enough name to warrant writing in a document like this.
. . .and BEFORE those agreements were in place? Or for future IP's with no such agreements attached? You jumbled what I wrote, so maybe slow down a bit before hitting "Post reply."
Markio128
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With laughter.
Draugoth
Gold Member
I just copied the title from an article, too lazy to read the entire thing
Hayabusabruh
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
It probably does, but isn't a big enough name to warrant writing in a document like this.
It's very likely Sony has first right on refusal on those things, hence *some* SE games still managed to get Xbox releases.
Punished Miku
Gold Member
Yeah okay lol.
feynoob
Banned
Japan sales isnt everything.
nocsi
Member
Why wouldn’t these games sell shit on the third place console?
//DEVIL//
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As I said before, Sony is a greedy snake that doesn’t want any sort of competition. They crying like a baby about the MS Cod deal because they don’t want any competition.
For that reason alone I hope MS wins it.
If there is a company that is Anti-competitive and fair play its Sony.
Not like MS are bunch of Angels. But fuck. to release a game on every platform but not Xbox is an ass move no matter how you see it lol
For that reason alone I hope MS wins it.
If there is a company that is Anti-competitive and fair play its Sony.
Not like MS are bunch of Angels. But fuck. to release a game on every platform but not Xbox is an ass move no matter how you see it lol
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64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
so never, then
Sony RN:
Sony RN:
Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
The dumbfucks at Sony are butthurt they won't be getting Starfield.....when they own Bethesda and it's a new IP.......
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
specially the one that sells itself on a game rental service that is basically disincentivising game purchases...
CosmicComet
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Lmao Sony OWNS Bloodborne.
Wtf would it be on Xbox?
That alone undermines their claim.
Wtf would it be on Xbox?
That alone undermines their claim.
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mortal
Gold Member
Why does she look like a real life Lois Griffin?
Thebonehead
Banned
Also looks like Elder Scrolls VI will be on Playstation:
Decisions regarding mid-sized games are not evidence of Microsoft’s incentives as they relate to Call of Duty: The games that the Phase 1 Decision cites as evidence of prior conduct are fundamentally different to Minecraft or Call of Duty and cannot be used as evidence of Microsoft’s “broad incentives” as they relate to Call of Duty. 214 • Titles such as Elder Scrolls VI (which is not expected to be released before [] with the last instalment in the series being released in 2011), as well as other future titles, will not involve Microsoft forgoing ca. USD [] per annum of revenue from PlayStation customers or disenfranchising ca. [] million MAU on PlayStation
Decisions regarding mid-sized games are not evidence of Microsoft’s incentives as they relate to Call of Duty: The games that the Phase 1 Decision cites as evidence of prior conduct are fundamentally different to Minecraft or Call of Duty and cannot be used as evidence of Microsoft’s “broad incentives” as they relate to Call of Duty. 214 • Titles such as Elder Scrolls VI (which is not expected to be released before [] with the last instalment in the series being released in 2011), as well as other future titles, will not involve Microsoft forgoing ca. USD [] per annum of revenue from PlayStation customers or disenfranchising ca. [] million MAU on PlayStation
Dick Jones
Gold Member
I'm shocked. Next you'll be telling me the Pope shits in the woods
feynoob
Banned
Dick Jones
Gold Member
I hope Keighley is okay. #thoughtsandprayersYes, he does.
anthony2690
Banned
Sony exclusive deals are super annoying.
Atleast with Xbox one's you know where you stand and the timed exclusivity tends to leak and it is usually 3-6months.
Huge shame these titles are probably forever locked away from Xbox.
Can't only blame Sony, as Konami and sqaure enix both accepted the deals.
Atleast with Xbox one's you know where you stand and the timed exclusivity tends to leak and it is usually 3-6months.
Huge shame these titles are probably forever locked away from Xbox.
Can't only blame Sony, as Konami and sqaure enix both accepted the deals.
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