X-Wing
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When Microsoft itself works mostly with contractors it gets difficult for them to support third party developers.
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Final Fantasy XVI Producer Explains why they signed a PS5 timed exclusive contract with SIE! via 4Gamer
When Microsoft itself works mostly with contractors it gets difficult for them to support third party developers.
Thirty7ven
Banned
They reduce risks and get support to make a better game. What’s not to like?
Unknown?
Member
You're right, they should just buy the whole publisher!
Umbasaborne
Banned
All i know is that i can rest easier knowing that those filthy green rats cant touch my final fantasy!
Elder Legend
Banned
Ehh... I am pretty sure there will be a PC version. There is a PC version of every FF in existence including the most recently release FF15 and FF7 Remake.
FF7 Remake is/was also a timed exclusive for PS4/PS5. It's been on PC for quite a while now if I am not mistaken.
As for the Xbox version, that's a different story.
SkylineRKR
Member
Yeah don't expect MS to gain a timed exclusive on something like Final Fantasy. The brand is important for Square, and their largest audience is on Playstation. FFXIV isn't even on Xbox for example. If they would do the reverse and bring this to Xbox first, it would hurt them for sure.
But Square is very involved with Sony regardless, its a bit like the PS1 and PS2 era. FFVII R, Forspoken, Rebirth, FFXVI... its all Playstation first. i wouldn't be surprised if Sony eventually buys them out though one could wonder how it would benefit Sony as they have Square's big games anyway, and day one too. They recently sold a lot of assets, Square is essentially trimmed down to what they were in the past. I feel its for the good. Those studios they sold were never a good fit imo. Square's promotion and projections on Tomb Raider, Hitman, Deus Ex et all were questionable at best.
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Gaelyon
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PC version will not release in 6 months (as they already aknowledged that), 1 year seem to be the minimum. I don't know if there's DLC planned, FFXV had many though not that great. But this team is the best square team by far so we can hope for eventually a good flawless PC port and maybe a great DLC later.
Bernardougf
Gold Member
Not much sense in doing a deal with the lesser instalbase and more important, with the instalbase that usually dont buy your games ... I can see this deal been the best for both... as it should
BaneIsPain
Member
At least you don’t have to wait as long as FF7R. Can’t wait for this game.
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
Sounds good, focus on one platform where 75% or more of the sales come from anyway, rather than the 2 Xbox's and multiple PC builds. Receive financial, technical and promotional support from Sony. Release a jazzed up version for PC shortly after, including any updates and extra content.
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ProtoByte
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Ragnarok sold it's 5 million in one week compared to Hogwarts' two week window. It's also very likely that the majority of Hogwarts' sales were on PlayStation 5.Thats why. GOW was the best selling PS launch of ALL time. Only 5 million units of roughly $300-350 million in revenue. Hogwarts almost tripled that.
‘Hogwarts Legacy’ Earns $850 Million, Sells More Than 12 Million Units in First Two Weeks
"Hogwarts Legacy" has wingardium leviosa-ed Warner Bros. Games' sales, earning $850 million in global sales and moving more than 12 million units.variety.com
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fermcr
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https://www.neogaf.com/threads/koji...-colaboration-with-xbox-game-studios.1637810/
Don't you think Microsoft will help Kojima in this Cloud Gaming Partnership?
Don't you think Nintendo offered support to PlatinumGames in the making of Bayonetta 2 and 3?
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The artful mincer
Member
Well on the bright side at least they didn't have to waste resources on that stupid series S console.... they can figure how to port that later!
Mr Hyde
Member
From Software said the same thing when they developed Bloodborne with SIE. Sony came in with lots of support and engineering, staffing up and making sure the quality was up to snuff. They had similar views to optimization (which ironically was crap in the end) only working on one platform, as it was beneficial to learn the ins and outs of next gen development. From Software took a lot of what they learned from BB development and implemented it in Dark Souls 3.
NonPhixion
Member
I do not believe what the Producer of the video game is telling us. Instead I will reject all he has said. I think the only reason is money, because I’m a dumb bitch.
Those games are being published under Xbox Game Studios while your latter two examples had staggered releases after being console exclusive to Xbox. Apples to oranges here since SIE isn't the publisher.
In Cold Blood
Banned
Exclusives have always been a console thing.
The more Exclusives on each console the better.
I play on Xbox, but I don't care if PS gets Exclusives. I have nothing against PS, and I will buy one when I think there's enough to warrant it, so one day I will play all those Exclusives on PS.
I don't understand people who say that there shouldn't be Exclusives.
What's the point of having two consoles where 95% of the games are the same on both, and maybe there is 2 or 3 games a year that are first party exclusives?
Imagine if Netflix and Disney + had 95% the exact same shows except for 2 or 3 different original shows a year.
The more Exclusives on each console the better.
I play on Xbox, but I don't care if PS gets Exclusives. I have nothing against PS, and I will buy one when I think there's enough to warrant it, so one day I will play all those Exclusives on PS.
I don't understand people who say that there shouldn't be Exclusives.
What's the point of having two consoles where 95% of the games are the same on both, and maybe there is 2 or 3 games a year that are first party exclusives?
Imagine if Netflix and Disney + had 95% the exact same shows except for 2 or 3 different original shows a year.
TrueLegend
Member
Nope. It is visually subpar presentation of the game as far as it is running on PS5. The only saving grace is 60fps. From what I have seen so far this game deserves to run in all its glory of PC. I am hoping it is optimised like God of War Ragnarok on PS5 with all this exclusivity talk. I mean currently for me this game is only reason why PS5 exists for me otherwise it's a relic.
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GymWolf
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Devs are not used to render games at 1998 era resolution anymore, that is where nintendo support shine.
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Puscifer
Member
Microsoft does this, Nvidia and AMD does this. Honestly this isn't news lol
Ar¢tos
Member
I don't have an issue with the graphics, I just hope the rest of the game isn't as "dark" as what they've shown so far. Dark dungeons, night fights, etc.
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GymWolf
Member
I thik it looks failry better than 15.
Not nextgen, but better.
This dude face looks better than noctis face imo
Mr.Phoenix
Member
Typically, every exclusive deal, be it timed or permanent, comes with tech support and promotional support.
This has always been the case, and the upfront monetary cost of such agreements is influenced by how well the game is likely to sell on the platform. Eg, it would cost MS 10x more to secure such an agreement for this same game if at all possible.
What people really should be talking about here, is who is doing this for PC? Who is willing to offer promotional and tech support for games being made on the PC?
Or better yet, why isn't Valve or Epic doing this with third-party devs?
This has always been the case, and the upfront monetary cost of such agreements is influenced by how well the game is likely to sell on the platform. Eg, it would cost MS 10x more to secure such an agreement for this same game if at all possible.
What people really should be talking about here, is who is doing this for PC? Who is willing to offer promotional and tech support for games being made on the PC?
Or better yet, why isn't Valve or Epic doing this with third-party devs?
Spaceman292
Banned
Paying for single games rather than entire studios seems like a good plan honestly. Cheaper, faster, more effective.
MikeM
Member
Bless your beautiful soul.
This is why I have a PS5 and a PC and not an Xbox. Console exclusives matter and they allow for devs to really squeeze every ounce out of a specific console.
hemo memo
Gold Member
Money. Sony basically buys the expected sales of the game on Xbox. SE probably exaggerate that expected number greatly. Both wins. One gets money with less effort and the other get to say EXCLUSIVE like it is some big achievement like the 20 people who buy the game on Xbox really care.
YeulEmeralda
Member
Sony has worked closely with Square since forever. Speaking the same language helps.
Ar¢tos
Member
MS got Octopath Traveler (1), so they are still making exclusivity deals with Square.
YeulEmeralda
Member
They did just that for Xbox and 360.
Also FF13 on 360 probably happened because someone signed a check. They were actually spending money on getting JRPGs.
hemo memo
Gold Member
Regulators with a faulty logic.
BabyfaceRe
Member
Weak PR.Leave it in the oven for another year, release on all (relevant) platforms at the same time, sell more copies, make more money.
OR mitigate the financial risk by taking a timed exclusivity deal.
I honestly have no problem with these kinds of deals in general, but the absolute BS excuses that comes from the devs to justify these decisions is embarrassing. From the marketing you'd think this game was only possible because of the "super special SSD of the PS5". When the game drops on other platforms a year later it will just prove that statement to be false.
OR mitigate the financial risk by taking a timed exclusivity deal.
I honestly have no problem with these kinds of deals in general, but the absolute BS excuses that comes from the devs to justify these decisions is embarrassing. From the marketing you'd think this game was only possible because of the "super special SSD of the PS5". When the game drops on other platforms a year later it will just prove that statement to be false.
NeoIkaruGAF
Gold Member
It’s really a mystery how people end up not buying in droves a game from a big publisher when it gets ported to their platform years after the original exclusive release.
Especially games from a publisher that counts only launch window sales and considers a few million sales a middling result at best, if not an outright failure.
Bonfires Down
Member
It makes a lot of sense for SE to make PS5 exclusives as their games probably sell 80/20 or more in favor of Playstation. And Sony might not even have to pay them but simply waive the platform holder fees.
Dirk Benedict
Gold Member
This is SE. It will get ported to a fucking grain of sand if possible.
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