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[James Sawyer Ford]

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Microsoft reports weaker Surface and Windows revenue amid global chip shortage

Cloud and Office save the revenue day

www.theverge.com

Microsoft has not disclosed new Game Pass subscriber numbers, after the company revealed it had 18 million subscribers back in January. Microsoft had been regularly revealing Xbox Game Pass numbers over the past year, but it has now gone two quarters without any updates.

Anyone reason why MS would do this unless Subs weren't growing robustly and may be declining?

 

[ManaByte]

 

[Kilau]

Reasons for concern.

 

[Shmunter]

Microsoft reports weaker Surface and Windows revenue amid global chip shortage

Cloud and Office save the revenue day

www.theverge.com

Anyone reason why MS would do this unless Subs weren't growing robustly and may be declining?

A lot of the increase as with all other online services would have seen growth spurred by lockdowns. It’s almost guaranteed that these numbers will show decline now.

And further bolstered by the overly generous 3 month free plans expiring.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Seems MS is concerned if they aren't making these public anymore, otherwise they would be bragging about it.

 

[Shmunter]

Seems MS is concerned if they aren't making these public anymore, otherwise they would be bragging about it.

Bad trends begets bad trends. Best not to say anything if it’s not good.

 

[sendit]

Time to bring back the 1 dollar subs to inflate those numbers.

 

[twilo99]

Yes, gamepass is dead and they are shutting down the xbox division in the next two months or so.

 

[pratyush]

Growth Numbers wont be that impressive because we had an insane growth last year in gaming and it isn't sustainable. Microsoft loves a good PR (like every company ) and if they show growth percentage lower, people will jump on it. So it does make sense.

That doesn't mean it hasn't grown. It just means compared to last year, numbers wont be that high. Actually I wouldn't be surprised to see a fall also from one quarter to another.

 

[reinking]

The numbers are now growing so rapidly they do not want to give Sony motivation to improve PS Now.

 

[AnotherOne]

You're a bit early for the weekend drunk thread there bud.

 

[ManaByte]

You're a bit early for the weekend drunk thread there bud.

 

[onnextflix5]

They are not exactly advertising that much, I'm guessing there is gona be another big push when halo comes out, if they are to succeed, they need to cut the price of the both consoles this year, and get those games out asap.

 

[elliot5]

They'll share them in Jan 2022 after the holiday craze of Forza and Halo hit

 

[Hendrick's]

Tom, you are supposed to be shilling for us.

 

[Marty-McFly]

Yep, while I think Gamepass is doing very well, I have to question any company that stops releasing numbers. It's probably because growth last year went Covid crazy and this year it's a little lower. Same with the unreal 28.8 million Switch sales of 2020. How are you going to top that? These companies all magically become much more transparent when they can sell the PR.

 

[Stuart360]

I love how Xbox, and Gamepass, lives rent free in so many of your minds.

 

[TheGrat1]

Clearly it is because that is no longer a relevant metric to Microsoft.

Clearly.

 

[megreotsugua]

Basically the gold subscribers converting spurred the momentary growth. Xbox had around 20 million gold subscribers. That's the same number we're seeing for gamepass.

 

[reinking]

I love how Xbox, and Gamepass, lives rent free in so many of your minds.

I love how it only cost a dollar in so many others.

 

[Hendrick's]

Basically the gold subscribers converting spurred the momentary growth. Xbox had around 20 million gold subscribers. That's the same number we're seeing for gamepass.

If that were true, they would have done away with Gold. There must still be a good number subbed to Gold.

 

[DForce]

I think it will be reported right after Forza and Halo releases.

 

[TheGrat1]

I love how it only cost a dollar in so many others.

No no no. It is effectively free.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Microsoft reports weaker Surface and Windows revenue amid global chip shortage

Cloud and Office save the revenue day

www.theverge.com

Anyone reason why MS would do this unless Subs weren't growing robustly and may be declining?

An investor paying MS a visit to ask about gamepass growth...

 

[Stuart360]

It will be funny looking back at all this when they anounce 30mil subs in November or December.

 

[eastcoastkody]

they are so high, and increasing at such a rate...they've lost count

is actually a more likely scenario than what u suggest

 

[Porcile]

I cancelled my subscription on PC. Too much other shit play.

 

[KyoZz]

Clickbait title + now we make news about.... no news? Really?

 

[elliot5]

It will be funny looking back at all this when they anounce 30mil subs in November or December.

def think its possible if the 23M in April rumors are true. Couple that with $1 for 3 month offers starting in May-June and keeping those around for Forza and Halo. Easy 30M or close to it EOY

 

[j0hnnix]

 

[Stuart360]

An investor paying MS a visit to ask about gamepass growth...

Thats actually hilarious lol. I bet you been saving that gif havent you Bo

 

[MrFunSocks]

lol of course it's OP that makes this fake concern thread. Game Pass, Flight Sims release and amazing reviews, and MS's great quarterly earnings have the usual suspects shook and not coping.

 

[Robb]

Could be. I also wouldn't be surprised if they are waiting to announce them at the end of the year as some have suggested. Sounds like a good move to show GamePass growth alongside your own first party releases. But who knows.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Thats actually hilarious lol. I bet you been saving that gif havent you Bo

Not really, used it before. Just typed "hide" and browsed the gifs and this came out and was fitting.

GGMU

 

[Stuart360]

lol of course it's OP that makes this fake concern thread. Game Pass, Flight Sims release and amazing reviews, and MS's great quarterly earnings have the usual suspects shook and not coping.

Its so easy to do though lol. I wouldnt be surprised if its Phil doing it on purpose
Which console 'won' last gen again?

 

[MrA]

Clickbait title + now we make news about.... no news? Really?

when it comes to financials, not mentioning something is concerning, but doesn't necessarily mean anything. Most likely it simply didn't meet the spectacular growth of last year
though we need a ms equivalent of nintendoomed , microshafted?

 

[Stuart360]

when it comes to financials, not mentioning something is concerning, but doesn't necessarily mean anything. Most likely it simply didn't meet the spectacular growth of last year
though we need a ms equivalent of nintendoomed , microshafted?

How about 'Gameover' instead of 'Gamepass'.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

I love how Xbox, and Gamepass, lives rent free in so many of your minds.

I know right. The verge must be sony shills for even daring bring it up.

 

[Raekwon26]

I love how Xbox, and Gamepass, lives rent free in so many of your minds.

It will be funny looking back at all this when they anounce 30mil subs in November or December.

Its so easy to do though lol. I wouldnt be surprised if its Phil doing it on purpose
Which console 'won' last gen again?

 

[EDMIX]

Seems MS is concerned if they aren't making these public anymore, otherwise they would be bragging about it.

Agreed, but i feel they are looking to deeply invest and the day to day or month to month might not be important to keep saying to the public if they playing the long game.

For all we know MS is willing to do some slow burn and keep investing for a few years before calling it. Who knows. We don't really even know what their target is to say good or bad etc.

 

[TLZ]

They've said elsewhere their numbers haven't increased.

 

[Mattyp]

Be concerned when we’re at 30 million come Jan.

 

[Tommi84]

When they stopped sharing consoles sold numbers,they said it's because the users/subscriptions matter. Though,we all know it stopped because they were losing to Sony.

I wonder to whom they lose now

 

[MrA]

How about 'Gameover' instead of 'Gamepass'.

certainly can be used to describe everything Xbox related
series s/x took 12 months to reach 10 million? microsoft gameover, am I right
Halo infinite launched only sold 4 million copies at launch, must be people waiting for it to come to gameover

 

[OmegaSupreme]

"Nothing to see here!" "Please disperse!"

 

[Shmunter]

When they stopped sharing consoles sold numbers,they said it's because the users/subscriptions matter. Though,we all know it stopped because they were losing to Sony.

I wonder to whom they lose now

They need to adopt engagement hours now to throw us off. “Gamepass was played for 1 Million hours last month….” Stated Phil Spencer from Xbox.com

 

[Darlingcognito]

All out of 8 hour long single player bangers to play (when's the next exclusive?) so it's time to shit up Xbox news I guess.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

All out of 8 hour long single player bangers to play (when's the next exclusive?) so it's time to shit up Xbox news I guess.

Do you need a safe space from all the mean playstation fans?

 

[ShirAhava]

When you have the whole world by the balls whats the point in counting anymore? Gamepass or go home!

 

[R6Rider]

All out of 8 hour long single player bangers to play (when's the next exclusive?) so it's time to shit up Xbox news I guess.