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Genshin Impact has had the highest first-year gaming revenue of all time. Beats GTA V, Fortnight. Makes more money than Vegas casinos.

Rillania

Gold Member
Compared to a lot of f2p games I've played in the past it is far more friendlier to free players, especially if you're mostly just interested in the quests and storyline content. Been too busy / doing other stuff so I haven't played in the past few months, but I got through pretty much the entirety of the available quests and main storylines (up to the end of the Liyue chain) running free to play with only 4 star characters. Game was reasonably generous with rewards and gems for Adventure Rank level ups and quest completions. That said once I had ran out of quests and was mostly doing dailies to level up characters and weapons the rewards and free gems did slow down considerably.

If you're looking to go far in Spiral Abyss, get particular 5 star banner characters and weapons, or level cap a bunch of characters though it is hard / long slog playing free, so that is where the gacha really got pushed / tempted. Not sure if Spiral Abyss has been tweaked since then, but I wouldn't be surprised if I found out that most of the people who were able to fully clear all of Spiral Abyss were hardcore whales in order to get a ton of cap level characters to get through all the floors.

Free gems and pity pull counting give you a chance to get a character or weapon you want if you're patient and frugal, but it isn't a guarantee that you'll get the banner advertised 5 star even if you hit your pity. Throw in the fact that the weapon and character banner pity counts are separate and it is a lot harder / slower to get a 5 from both since you pretty much have to pick hitting your pity on one or the other. Then there is the whole aspect that duplicate characters unlock special abilities / perks and it takes rolling them 6 additional times to fully cap their constellation. That is where it can get really expensive, so I'm not surprised Genshin raked in that much revenue if they had enough people willing to drop a lot of cold, hard cash on "perfection".
 
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SSfox

Lies about why mods reply ban and warn me.
and we all know why
He looks absolutely like a boy to me, i don't get all the propaganda tbh
 

BlackM1st

Banned
but I got through pretty much the entirety of the available quests and main storylines (up to the end of the Liyue chain)
Comeback, you're missing out by skipping Inazuma.

Not sure if Spiral Abyss has been tweaked since then, but I wouldn't be surprised if I found out that most of the people who were able to fully clear all of Spiral Abyss were hardcore whales in order to get a ton of cap level characters to get through all the floors
SA is still the same. Still can be cleared with C0 heroes. If you care, you can build "the national team" and plow through it easily too.

But I don't care about the Abyss. It's boring to me so I just get my BP stars and gtfo, despite having a lot of 5☆.

perfection
That's really on people who can't control themselves and watch too much YouTube.
 

Starhowl

Member


Genshin Impact has had the highest first-year gaming revenue of all time:





MiHoYo's Genshin VS other gambling companies:



Not bad for a "Chinese BoTW rip-off".

Japanese companies (not named Nintendo) can only dream about such numbers. F2P/GAAS is here to stay, so maybe it's time for Square to actually do something about GI dominance...
It shows what‘s wrong with gaming and a sad testament for the world.
 

Kagoshima_Luke

Gold Member
Addiction combined with the ease of spending is a hell of a combo. Being able to drop hundreds of dollars with a few button presses when you are in the grips that addiction is… not good. At least with drugs you have to get out of your house a brave the world to procure more.
 

Moochi

Member
I did Genshin for the first year on an Samsung Galaxy s20 Ultra. The first month I played for free. The next three or four months I paid for the battlepass, which is, I think, 10 bucks. If you've ever paid a subscription for a game like WoW or Final Fantasy 14, you'll feel like you've gotten your money's worth, so long as the interesting content lasts. There is a LOT of stuff to do and a lot of world to explore without paying a cent, and the stuff you get from clearing the non-daily zones and quests is better than the battlepass rewards as long as the content lasts. The quests are varied and interesting. The characters are well-voiced and acted. I didn't like Paimon at first, but the longer I was stuck listening to her the more her stupid lines would crack me up, and I actually looked forward to the cutscenes.

You have the opportunity to whale out and spend a bazillion bucks to have what you want Right Now, but with a battlepass only and a few lucky 5 star draws, I cleared every level of the Abyss with 3 stars.

I stopped playing after the ice mountain region, mainly because there was nothing to do but dailies and grind to level up new team compositions or try to outfit by best comps with 5 star gear--but I was already crushing the Abyss, so I didn't see much of a point. The new content looks fun, but I don't have a lot of free time right now, and if I've got 30 minutes where I can play a game on my phone I've been playing Wild Rift.
 

BlackM1st

Banned
The new content looks fun, but I don't have a lot of free time right now
That's a shame, you should totally download it on PC or PS and give it a proper time. There's a cross save feature now. So you can play wherever and whenever you want.

Inazuma and other new content they added to the game after the Ice Mountain is worth it.


Samsung Galaxy s20 Ultra
Samsung Fold 3 for me. Looks and plays amazing.
 
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CGiRanger

Banned
The West will never be able to create Gacha whales to the level of the Japanese. Because they'll never create the right characters to entice people to spend their money.

Characters like this are why games like Fate Grand Order (the previous standard-bearer of Gacha "it prints money") keep on going strong (despite shitty rates):
(yes this is the actual design and outfit for the recent character Zenobia)
 

BlackM1st

Banned
The West will never be able to create Gacha whales to the level of the Japanese. Because they'll never create the right characters to entice people to spend their money.

Characters like this are why games like Fate Grand Order (the previous standard-bearer of Gacha "it prints money") keep on going strong (despite shitty rates):
(yes this is the actual design and outfit for the recent character Zenobia)

Mmmmm... Gameplay...



Yeah, I agree, west can't cater to JP/CN whales unfortunately.

But in the same time GI is relatively tame, so GI designs is pretty doable for modern Sony or Microsoft. Hell, Sony has probably money hatted MiHoYo to keep GI from Xbox.

I really hope that we will get a GI like gacha from Japanese or Korean companies. FG O and other 2D chibi games can't put fire under MiHoYo's ass and that's a big problem.
 

hemo memo

Member
Well, played a lot of Genshin and that game is quality. I mean is it also a very simple concept. Make a F2P but focus on the “Play” part. You can play that game and get more than full game 60$ worth of content without paying a penny.
 
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ProLogY

Member
Good for them I guess.. I don’t know why people invest in any kind of Gacha system.. but i suppose slot machines are addicting.
 
Tbf I think I'm being 100% old man doenst understand younger generation shit here so I'll bow out
it’s not younger generation shit.

It’s straight up loser shit. Being that infatuated with any video game characters is pathetic. Worst that they spend endless amount of money to dress them up. Ironically it’s the same people that shit on Fortnite.

People dont like TLoU because how their characters look. They enjoy the story and how the characters are written. The characters have to be utilitarian. You have people that cant like characters that arent dressed like complete sluts. This whole schoolgirls with glimpses of their underwear aesthetic all these Genshin Impact characters have is obvious.

That being said, Sony is losing alot of potential money not going hard on micro-transactions and FTP games. I say give the losers what they want. I see Sony investing in these companies, then making the games themselves.

 

BlackM1st

Banned
Worst that they spend endless amount of money to dress them up.

There's no skins or any other cosmetics in Genshin Impact.

Ironically it’s the same people that shit on Fortnite.

Ironically Genshin Impact being a F2P mobile game is very popular among casuals and kids. Same people who play Fortnite, Minecraft and Roblox.


This whole schoolgirls with glimpses of their underwear aesthetic all these Genshin Impact characters have is obvious.
There's no visible underwear in Genshin Impact. It's heavily censored. It's impossible to take an "upskirt" view because characters models become invisible from a certain angles.

...known in Japan as the "JK"...

Genshin Impact is the Chinese game.


I say give the losers what they want.
I say you an idiot who can't read and speaks about things he has no idea about.

Stop It Michael Jordan GIF
 

Klayzer

Member
There's no skins or any other cosmetics in Genshin Impact.



Ironically Genshin Impact being a F2P mobile game is very popular among casuals and kids. Same people who play Fortnite, Minecraft and Roblox.



There's no visible underwear in Genshin Impact. It's heavily censored. It's impossible to take an "upskirt" view because characters models become invisible from a certain angles.



Genshin Impact is the Chinese game.



I say you an idiot who can't read and speaks about things he has no idea about.

Stop It Michael Jordan GIF
That's some funny shit. He literally whiffed at every point he tried to make.
 
There's no skins or any other cosmetics in Genshin Impact.
Ironically Genshin Impact being a F2P mobile game is very popular among casuals and kids. Same people who play Fortnite, Minecraft and Roblox.
There's no visible underwear in Genshin Impact. It's heavily censored. It's impossible to take an "upskirt" view because characters models become invisible from a certain angles.
Genshin Impact is the Chinese game.
I say you an idiot who can't read and speaks about things he has no idea about.

Stop It Michael Jordan GIF
Oh on earth are you talking about?
No cosmetics in Genshin Impact? Since WHEN.


Stop It Michael Jordan GIF


Nobody said the game wasn’t played by people of various ages. Im saying the same people that talk shit about fornite will turn around and play genshin impact.

No underwear shots? What on earth are you talking about. The skirts are so short you have to see them.


Never said Genshin Impact wasnt chinese, it could be made by Irish developers. Never was the point.

Im commenting on this fascination with “waifu” school girl characters. Feels embarrassing to play. Which ultimately I dont even care. What I am commenting on how people seem to think that people care how sexualized or unrealistically anime characters are. They dont. “The Last of Us” characters are designed according to their world, and make completely sense.

The LOSERS are those who are pouring money into these games.
 

BlackM1st

Banned
You people who love this game, how much have you spent? Just curious.
Hm... It would wary greatly I think. Some people in the OT played for the whole year without spending any money.

I purchase BP and gem subscriptions. Both are extremely cheap compared to any AAA or even indie games I play on PC and PS5.
Like I said previously, it's not big money at all. I spent on gas and taxi DAILY more , than monthly GI subscriptions costs.

My biggest purchase was during the anniversary celebration. The only time I bought gems directly and spent 100$ for the biggest pack.(I got x2 gems bonus)

That's totally on me, it wasn't out of necessity or something like that. I wanted a premium hero and wanted to make her as strong as possible. Luckily to me I was able to achieve it because her strongest constellations were C2/3 and not C6. I wasn't going to buy another 100$ pack or something like that. Thanks to that anniversary pulling now I have ALL standard 5☆ heroes and still busy upgrading/leveling them up.
 

BlackM1st

Banned
Thats honestly good to hear
You need to buy gems 💎 only if you want ALL heroes, want a lot of constellations (duplicates) or want to have a signature weapon for new limited hero.

Truth is, nobody want or need to have all heroes. You can pick and choose and save up for heroes that you like.

Constellations are absolutely unnecessary to have a great time and enjoy the game. All my premium characters except for 1 are at constellation 0.

Signature weapons are also absolutely unnecessary. It's a nice bonus to have and they look cool, but you don't need them to complete even the hardest content.

In fact, free non-premium 4☆ heroes with 3☆ and 4☆ weapons can clear ALL content in Genshin Impact.
 
You people who love this game, how much have you spent? Just curious.
About $50 in Welkins and Battle Passes across a few months. PS5 hour count says I'm at around 300 hours. Right now I'm on hiatus as I'm playing a lot of FFXIV but I'll be back sometime, it's a fun game and perfectly playable and enjoyable at the F2P tier. Even high level abyss content is doable, in time, with the F2P characters and whatever you get from fates out of normal progression. There is no need to spend a dime on it to have a good time.
 
Since you have no idea what you're talking about.

There is 2 entire skins in the game. 2. TWO.

1 of them was given away for free. Now both can be purchased directly without any gambling involved.

Both are absolutely terrible and hardly made any money.



You're making an ass out of yourself. Stop it.
Your statements are still false.
Almost everything you commented wasnt anything I said. You just repurposed them. Yet you are here making it seem like you disapproved my points. Unless your someone that is gambling absurds amounts of money in this embarrassing game, there is no reason you should be trying to insult me like a child.
 

BlackM1st

Banned
Your statements are still false.
Almost everything you commented wasnt anything I said. You just repurposed them. Yet you are here making it seem like you disapproved my points. Unless your someone that is gambling absurds amounts of money in this embarrassing game, there is no reason you should be trying to insult me like a child.
digging sarah chalke GIF

I can't... I'll just leave it here...

 

Griffon

Member
Mobile Asian Gatcha (with a local stronghold on the huge china market).

Comparing it with normal games is disingenuous. On the other hand the comparison with casinos is apt.
 
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Larxia

Member
There's very little ground between light spender and whale.
This is exactly why I never spent any money on the game.
I really like the game, but what you get from paying is so insignificant... unless you're willing to spend hundreds.

It really doesn't seem like it's worth it, I can't accept the idea of paying 15€ for 980 crystals, that's... only 6 pulls, not even a multi pull! I just find the prices incredibly crazy, since for the equivalent one random 4* object, I could buy an actual full game on steam in sales, or an indie game. The biggest pack, 6480 crystals, is 100€, and that's only 40 pull (unless you count the bonus if you buy it only once), that's not even enough to get to a 5* pity. That's crazy. If you're someone who buys pack often, you will need 200€ to get to 80 pulls and get your 5*, which only has a 50/50 chance of being the one you want.

Really, I love the game and I wouldn't mind spending a bit of money in it, only if the prices were realistic. I know what I'm going to say will sound crazy since people are now used to these crazy prices, but to me, a multi (X10) pull should be something like 1€. It would between 7 and 9€ to reach the 5* pity, which seems more realistic when you compare it to characters in fighting games for example usually being sold for something between 4 and 8€. And that's still considering the 50/50 system is in place, so it might actually be 18€ for your character if you are unlucky, I think that's already wayyyy enough money for just a character.

Even the battle pass to me seems expensive for what it is, a little bit of quality of life for 10€ a month, that's 120€ a year for just a few bonuses...
The thing that seems the most worth it is the Blessing of the welking moon, it's in my opinion still a bit expensive for what it is, but it's certainly more realistic than the other things on the store.

These are all the reasons I'm just staying free to play. Love the game but the prices they ask for are just unreasonable, I don't understand how it works.

These are the characters I own as a F2P only player. I'm not sure I would even really want more right now, it's already such a struggle to build them because of the artifact RNG (biggest problem of the game in my opinion, worse than the gacha pulls by far).
 

BlackM1st

Banned
biggest problem of the game in my opinion, worse than the gacha pulls by far
Probably the only thing(outside of primos ofc) that makes people to login daily and farm. If you could easily get a perfect roll, you'd stopped playing until the next update after getting it. Plus, it's not just any RNG. It's a rigged RNG which is heavily prioritize bad/useless stats.

I know what I'm going to say will sound crazy since people are now used to these crazy prices, but to me, a multi (X10) pull should be something like 1€.

Yeah... well, yet here we are: GI is above GTA V online lol

BTW GTA Online prices are crazy inflated now. Any new POS car now costs millions of dollars.

MiHoYo is a bunch of ridiculously cheap and greedy bastards.

Unfortunately, judging by their numbers it looks like it's the way to go on the current market lol
 

Larxia

Member
Probably the only thing(outside of primos ofc) that makes people to login daily and farm. If you could easily get a perfect roll, you'd stopped playing until the next update after getting it. Plus, it's not just any RNG. It's a rigged RNG which is heavily prioritize bad/useless stats.
Yes but it's something I don't like personally. It's so long and tedious since you can only do it in such small amounts. I wish we could at least stock infinite amount of condensed resin, so I would save my resin for like 2 weeks, without being forced to play all the time, and then do one long grinding session. Also fucking DEF stat :messenger_astonished: And EVEN when you do get the good substats being increased, you can also be unlucky with the roll, because it can be a low one, it's a infinite RNG hole.
 
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Edgelord79

Gold Member
It's inspired by other games, sure, but no, it doesn't simply copy things the way Genshin Impact does. It's impossible not to see this if you have played both games.
So what if it is?

Its common to not waste time and resources on creating something new if it's already been done well and can be imitated within a shorter time window.
 

Mr Moose

Member
Theoretically, can you unlock everything without paying?
Almost everything, yeah.
Some weapons are exclusive to the battlepass.
 
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billyxci

Permabanned.
that's bananas. i tried getting into it but i can't do it. i like exploring the world and the combat is fun but it feels overwhelming. there are like 3 different currencies which is confusing.
 

Pejo

Member
that's bananas. i tried getting into it but i can't do it. i like exploring the world and the combat is fun but it feels overwhelming. there are like 3 different currencies which is confusing.
You've only hit 3 currencies so far? You have much to discover.

Yea they purposely distance in-game currencies with real money to make you not think about the conversion rates or real prices of things. It's a known tactic.

You can approach the game in 2 ways - completely F2P, or willing to spend. Sticking with F2P is a lot harder and you will constantly be nudged to buy "just a little" or "just this one pack". It's insidious, but that's the gacha market for you. Regardless, you can still enjoy the game at all spending levels, but just be aware that their goal is to take a F2P player and make them a spender. So you're always going to be fighting off urges to buy that pack or that daily login deal etc.
 

Nickolaidas

Member
You've only hit 3 currencies so far? You have much to discover.

Yea they purposely distance in-game currencies with real money to make you not think about the conversion rates or real prices of things. It's a known tactic.

You can approach the game in 2 ways - completely F2P, or willing to spend. Sticking with F2P is a lot harder and you will constantly be nudged to buy "just a little" or "just this one pack". It's insidious, but that's the gacha market for you. Regardless, you can still enjoy the game at all spending levels, but just be aware that their goal is to take a F2P player and make them a spender. So you're always going to be fighting off urges to buy that pack or that daily login deal etc.
As long as your goal in playing a GaaS game is just having fun by playing, and not unlocking stuff or be a completionist, it is safe I think.
 

bbeach123

Member
I dont mind gacha but I dont like how most of them play nowaday , you can only play a little everyday , must login multiple time everyday .

First few weeks was okay , but after that the game feel like chore/work . I know it is what it is but still , after a few games I quit all of them for good .
 

boutrosinit

Street Fighter IV World Champion
You people who love this game, how much have you spent? Just curious.

$20. I think it's great.

Really impressive for something that's free to play, on mobile and riffing off BoTW.

The element chemistry is well done, the combat is fun, the mini-puzzles are decent, the art and world are gorgeous.

Ignoring this because of prejudices will not serve your quest for more enjoyment.
 

SSfox

Lies about why mods reply ban and warn me.
I play this daily since 2 months and I plan to keep doing so until I get Albedo Xiao and Zhongli Aka the national team, I'm pretty glad I discovered this game recently specially since outside of Elden Ring and GT7 there isn't much I'm waiting from now to April (also probably around this period Z will get his rerun), this game will def help in periods where there's no new interesting game.
 
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