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ATK affect basic attacks and elemental skill/ elemental burst that ask you ATK. Physical damage only affect basic attacks and basic attacks modifier. Can affect elemental reaction that requite ATK.

Elemantal DMG affect the portion of the damage that get element. If you have a char that embue the element to basic attacks, the DMG bonus will apply there as well. Mona basic attacks are Hydro, so Hydro Bonus not only will boost her skill/burst, but her elemental attack because have element.
Elemental DMG don't work with melee physical damage, unless you embue with elemental propriety.


I highly recommend read the skill information before make a build. Some skills and heal require ATK or Elemental Bonus.
Catalyst even more than physical weapon characters want to get the corresponding element damage goblets due to diminishing returns of the ATK stat. Also, artifact Goblet and character passives are the only places you can currently get elemental type damage. The way the damage formula works, it's almost always the best option unless it's a character that has secondary scaling off of attack for something in their kit. An example would be Jean or Qiqi that have their healing scale off of the ATK stat. If you're using them for healers, an ATK goblet would be a better fit than an elemental damage goblet. Even then though, there is still diminishing returns and overhealing, so some people will still run elemental damage or Elemental Mastery instead.
I get the idea now, thanks. I was just a bit confused because this game doesn’t strictly have physical and special stats
 

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I get the idea now, thanks. I was just a bit confused because this game doesn’t strictly have physical and special stats
Wait until you dig into resistances and defense. You can also hit a button (diffeerent depending on which platform you play on) when you're viewing your character stats to view all of the details. It shows your various damage types, resistances, crit rates, etc.
 

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Well what the fuck, it looks like maintenance is happening right now. Every article I found said it's tomorrow. I feel like MHY does a terrible job of communicating maintenance/update times across multiple regions. They should just have a message in the game that says "maintenance starts in 10 hours" or something like that.
 

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"huge drop rate boost"

If You Say So Reaction GIF by Identity
Huge enough for 1x 10 pull? Let's wait and see... That's all I can give to her anyway.

Of the recently released characters, who would you say is worth targeting on future reruns?
Only the Queens. Raiden and Ayaka. 2 "I win" buttons courtesy of Inazuma. That's really it.

Ayaka and Yoimiya have their places but can be skipped
See? That's how wrong opinion looks like.

Skipping on Ayaka is like skipping on Cocogoat: missing on a metric fuckton of free DMG. Both Ayaka and Raiden are the top Meta DD. YMY is literally nobody.

Sounds like I didn't miss much in terms of characters.
Only the best battery and a melee Cocogoat lol Like bruh...


As far as characters, I'd argue that none of them are absolute must have meta characters

Ayaka and Raiden both are above Cocogoat rn in the Abyss clear. They're only below top 3 supports: Kaz, Bennett and Geo Lord. If the top DMG dealer and the top battery isn't a must have, then I don't know who is lmao

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I get the idea now, thanks. I was just a bit confused because this game doesn’t strictly have physical and special stats
Go Cryo. Go Pyro. Keep Crit Rate to Crit DMG ratio 1 to 2 for your main DMG dealers. Keep C.Rate above 50%. Basically ignore everything else if you value your time and sanity.
 

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See? That's how wrong opinion looks like.

Skipping on Ayaka is like skipping on Cocogoat: missing on a metric fuckton of free DMG. Both Ayaka and Raiden are the top Meta DD. YMY is literally nobody.

Ayaka and Raiden both are above Cocogoat rn in the Abyss clear. They're only below top 3 supports: Kaz, Bennett and Geo Lord. If the top DMG dealer and the top battery isn't a must have, then I don't know who is lmao
Oh no, not the heckin' abysserino! How will we ever beat it without meme strategies that will be rendered obsolete in the next patch where they base the mechanics around the next new characters?? AHHH Primogems hellllp
 
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A properly built C0 Yoimiya can easily clear all the content in the game including Abyss. Pull for who you like. Most of the content in this game isn't hard enough to require streamlining and optimizing. It doesn't hurt to pull for some of the more OP characters though.

I haven't 36*'ed the Abyss yet because I invested a boatload of resin in a character I don't even have. If I hadn't done that I'd probably be clearing it easily.
 
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A properly built C0 Yoimiya can easily clear all the content in the game
Yeah, just like any properly built free 4☆.

Pull for who you like.
Sure, your time/money is yours to waste.

But the question was "did I missed something?".

And yes, yes he definitely did missed on 2 OP as F heroes... And no, it wasn't YMY or Kokomi lmao

It doesn't hurt to pull for some of the more OP characters though.

Exactly.


Oh no, not the heckin' abysserino!
Oh yes. It IS the hardest content in game. Regardless of how you feel about it, it's the only way we can measure our heroes strength so far. So saying that Raiden and Ayaka isn't Meta or isn't a big deal to skip is factually wrong and a pretty misleading.

meme strategies that will be rendered obsolete
You're obviously not digging deep enough into it, strategies on 12-3 are almost always the same, same goes for heroes. Ayaka was on top of the Abyss since her release, same goes for Baal: she's a permanent party member for the most Abyss teams.

Heroes like Kokomi or YMY is an actual meme heroes and require meme strategies. Like I said, literal nobodies.
 

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Yeah, just like any properly built free 4☆.


Sure, your time/money is yours to waste.

But the question was "did I missed something?".

And yes, yes he definitely did missed on 2 OP as F heroes... And no, it wasn't YMY or Kokomi lmao



Exactly.



Oh yes. It IS the hardest content in game. Regardless of how you feel about it, it's the only way we can measure our heroes strength so far. So saying that Raiden and Ayaka isn't Meta or isn't a big deal to skip is factually wrong and a pretty misleading.


You're obviously not digging deep enough into it, strategies on 12-3 are almost always the same, same goes for heroes. Ayaka was on top of the Abyss since her release, same goes for Baal: she's a permanent party member for the most Abyss teams.

Heroes like Kokomi or YMY is an actual meme heroes and require meme strategies. Like I said, literal nobodies.
Niether of those characters change anything about how the game is played. I'd argue the last real gamebreakers are Zhongli and Ganyu. For someone that quit a few months ago from burn out, I doubt Abyss 12-3 is what they're focusing on upon return.

I get that you're a meta chaser, and that's cool, but you have such a narrow view of "good characters" in this game. I'd argue Kaz is a more useful and game-changing character than Ayaka just for traversal alone.
 
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I'd argue Kaz is a more useful and game-changing character than Ayaka
Well, you could have mentioned him. You didn't. I did mentioned him, he's above all other heroes in the Abyss right now, even above Bennett.

But.

He's just a support, almost useless class in the overworld and almost irreplaceable in the Abyss...

Kaz is of no interest to me simply because I don't chase the Abyss records and for that reason don't use supports that I don't like. Doesn't mean I don't recognize their overall performance tho.

So... Yeah.

Same goes for Geo Lord and I did mentioned him too.

And btw Raiden has just as much stagger resistance as him and can be invincible even in a team without Geo Lord. Same can't be said about him: he can't do her numbers or generate as much energy.

For someone that quit a few months ago from burn out, I doubt Abyss 12-3 is what they're focusing on upon return.

12-3 is a measuring device. The only one we have in GI.

That's like a Nurburgring race track. Faster cars show a better time on it, but it doesn't mean that people who buy those cars are gonna go and race there. But they will definitely enjoy driving them even casually.

Lacks class
Who said she has/should have any of it? ;D
 

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Even a bit of skin and it'd be better for me. Oh well, at least the skintight suit is still good and see-thru.
I wonder what it'd be like with the bare stomach and the rest hosed up. I don't have photoshop skills or i'd do it myself.
 
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Actually, now that I look at it more closely... She'd be using some kind of sticker, right? For that shape right above her crotch. It's not attached to the rest of the fabric at all.
 
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If womb tattoo's are being brought up, I'm just going to admit that's how I saw the element symbols this entire time.
I wonder what it'd be like with the bare stomach and the rest hosed up. I don't have photoshop skills or i'd do it myself.
If they simplify the patterns a bit and only have the stomach or thighs showing, it'd be gr8.
 
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That genuinely looks like trash, the only way that would work, if is she glued those patterns to her skin; it's insanely impractical and just stupid, the slightest brush against anything would damage/rip the patterns.

It's so bad smh.
 

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If womb tattoo's are being brought up, I'm just going to admit that's how I saw the element symbols this entire time.

If they simplify the patterns a bit and only have the stomach or thighs showing, it'd be gr8.
I'll assume you saw the 糖tou stuff?

Anyways, they basically already gave her an ovary outline in her suit:



Cheeky bastards.
That genuinely looks like trash, the only way that would work, if is she glued those patterns to her skin; it's insanely impractical and just stupid, the slightest brush against anything would damage/rip the patterns.

It's so bad smh.
Different strokes etc. Wouldn't be the first time an anime character had an impossible costume. That's why it's called fantasy.
 

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I don't personally care about whether its practical or not... Just do it. Cosplayers go for it all the way.

I'll assume you saw the 糖tou stuff?

Anyways, they basically already gave her an ovary outline in her suit:

Yep I have- gods work. Whoever is character designer should be promoted to Art Director.
 
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Only the best battery and a melee Cocogoat lol Like bruh...

Hmm, never really felt the need for a battery. I've ended up with decent ER stats on artifacts for my key characters that I didn't think about needing a specific character just for ER.

Does Ayaka really hit as hard as Ganyu? Not sure I needed another cryo thumper, but after checking Shenhe's art, maybe I do :pie_thinking:
 
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Hmm, never really felt the need for a battery. I've ended up with decent ER stats on artifacts for my key characters that I didn't think about needing a specific character just for ER.

Does Ayaka really hit as hard as Ganyu? Not sure I needed another cryo thumper, but after checking Shenhe's art, maybe I do :pie_thinking:
Ayaka is very strong, but if you already have Ganyu I don't think she'd add much to your account. She's more like a sidegrade to Ganyu. For the sake of flexibility it would be better to get characters from other elements too. MHY sure isn't making that easy though.

Raiden Shogun is really the only character you've missed that people are very excited about. She's quite unique due to her rare element and powerful as well. The other one that comes to mind is Kazuha, but you played the Golden Archipelago event right? So you might have seen him already. I don't expect any of the Inazuma character to be rerun anytime soon anyway. This patch will have Albedo and Eula, next up will be Ganyu, Xiao, Venti, Zhongli, Klee... The list of reruns is long, even if we're getting two per patch. We might see the Inazuman characters again in a month or 4/5. By then most people will be expecting Sumeru. Unlikely anyone's gonna care about Inazuma anymore.
 

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Ayaka is very strong, but if you already have Ganyu I don't think she'd add much to your account. She's more like a sidegrade to Ganyu. For the sake of flexibility it would be better to get characters from other elements too. MHY sure isn't making that easy though.

Raiden Shogun is really the only character you've missed that people are very excited about. She's quite unique due to her rare element and powerful as well. The other one that comes to mind is Kazuha, but you played the Golden Archipelago event right? So you might have seen him already. I don't expect any of the Inazuma character to be rerun anytime soon anyway. This patch will have Albedo and Eula, next up will be Ganyu, Xiao, Venti, Zhongli, Klee... The list of reruns is long, even if we're getting two per patch. We might see the Inazuman characters again in a month or 4/5. By then most people will be expecting Sumeru. Unlikely anyone's gonna care about Inazuma anymore.

Thanks for your input.

I think I'm in pretty good shape on characters since I was playing the game from launch until mid-July. Kazuha was the last 5 star I added and I did find him fun to play, plus he was one of the few Anemo characters in my roster.

Once the server maintenance is over, I'll log in because I don't remember how may primos I had before I stopped playing. It's reassuring that I probably won't be missing out many interesting characters while I build my resources back up.
 
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Can't wait for the dance gifs
I honestly don't like her hair in the in-game model. I like the more wild style from the official art. Otherwise she's good though. Still doesn't beat Eula for best female design, in my book at least. Or best overall girl.



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Don't really like reposting leaks from this dude, but it's all we got so far.

Shenhe kit:


YunJin kit:
 
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I honestly don't like her hair in the in-game model. I like the more wild style from the official art. Otherwise she's good though. Still doesn't beat Eula for best female design, in my book at least. Or best overall girl.

You know who she reminds me of? I forget if you're acquainted with GBF but it's kind of like Narmaya.

I see that art is still being put to good use.
 
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New World Boss apparently

This should be Enkanomiya for next patch then since Tsurumi already has Golden Wolflord?
 
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New World Boss apparently

This should be Enkanomiya for next patch then since Tsurumi already has Golden Wolflord?
Yep, looks like we're going there after all in 2.4. Beta still hasn't fully started yet, so this is all datamine stuff. Excited to see if it's a full zone or just a small area/boss fight. Crossing my fingers for full zone.

How'd you do with Eula btw?

I did pretty good. Had her at C4 before this banner, got the last 2 in 60 pulls tonight (including getting the first copy on my first 10x pull), wasted everything else I had saved plus a $50 pack and lucked into the Broken Pines without getting spooked.





Done pulling until Shenhe banner now.
 

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Yep, looks like we're going there after all in 2.4. Beta still hasn't fully started yet, so this is all datamine stuff. Excited to see if it's a full zone or just a small area/boss fight. Crossing my fingers for full zone.

How'd you do with Eula btw?

I did pretty good. Had her at C4 before this banner, got the last 2 in 60 pulls tonight (including getting the first copy on my first 10x pull), wasted everything else I had saved plus a $50 pack and lucked into the Broken Pines without getting spooked.





Done pulling until Shenhe banner now.
Hoping it's full zone, too. One thing Dragonspine was missing was a nice climax, so having a boss at the end of Enkanomiya's initial story would be great. If this is another normal boss then, the 2nd weekly must be saved for Raiden or Kokomi's Act 2. Design looks cool at least.

I got her in 20 rolls! Now I am wondering if I should just go for Broken Pines first or push for more constellations.

Also, what is with you and max constellations!? Nice work, man.
 

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Hoping it's full zone, too. One thing Dragonspine was missing was a nice climax, so having a boss at the end of Enkanomiya's initial story would be great. If this is another normal boss then, the 2nd weekly must be saved for Raiden or Kokomi's Act 2. Design looks cool at least.

I got her in 20 rolls! Now I am wondering if I should just go for Broken Pines first or push for more constellations.

Also, what is with you and max constellations!? Nice work, man.
I have to say, after pissing with it, even only at level 60 (ran out of ascension mats, domain's not open until Thurs), I noticed a huge overall upgrade with Broken Pines over Skyward Pride. I was shocked how strong I was hitting with it, 20 levels below the other sword. That said, C1 is a nice upgrade too. Tough call.
 
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I have to say, after pissing with it, even only at level 60 (ran out of ascension mats, domain's not open until Thurs), I noticed a huge overall upgrade with Broken Pines over Skyward Pride. I was shocked how strong I was hitting with it, 20 levels below the other sword. That said, C1 is a nice upgrade too. Tough call.
Oh nice. I guess I'll split rolls and just invest where ever it's looking good. I'm sure it'll be back anyway.
 

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Hmm, never really felt the need for a battery.
She let's and wants you to spam ultimates as much as you want.

BTW her elemental skill adds electro elemental DMG to other heroes attacks and for that reason she's the TOP pick partner for EULA too. So if you have/want EULA Raiden is a great pick too.

Does Ayaka really hit as hard as Ganyu?
Yeah and she does it effortlessly. She's another cryo hyper carry and you can't have too many of them.

Yep, looks like we're going there after all in 2.4. Beta still hasn't fully started yet, so this is all datamine stuff. Excited to see if it's a full zone or just a small area/boss fight. Crossing my fingers for full zone.

How'd you do with Eula btw?

I did pretty good. Had her at C4 before this banner, got the last 2 in 60 pulls tonight (including getting the first copy on my first 10x pull), wasted everything else I had saved plus a $50 pack and lucked into the Broken Pines without getting spooked.





Done pulling until Shenhe banner now.
Hoping it's full zone, too. One thing Dragonspine was missing was a nice climax, so having a boss at the end of Enkanomiya's initial story would be great. If this is another normal boss then, the 2nd weekly must be saved for Raiden or Kokomi's Act 2. Design looks cool at least.

I got her in 20 rolls! Now I am wondering if I should just go for Broken Pines first or push for more constellations.

Also, what is with you and max constellations!? Nice work, man.
Hate you both. WTF. And here I am with 10 wishes left.
 

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Old design was better IMO. This one lacks color and is too busy.

I prefer how the new model looks. Previous one was very similar to Yanfei, had the same "I'm high" expression xD And if anything I think that new one is less busy.

Oh nice. I guess I'll split rolls and just invest where ever it's looking good. I'm sure it'll be back anyway.
Go for constellations man. Sword is very meh. Made just for her.

Actually before you even go there, are you sure that you will actually use her? She's an eye candy, but her actual combo based gameplay isn't something I would call everyone's cup of tea.