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Ghost of Tsushima removes Only on PlayStation logo on box art (PC version incoming?)

Brofist

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By your own admission you are a paid shill, there is no argument or discussion.

As if it wasn’t plain looking at your incessant contrarian posts and obfuscation .

Your script with points to push, points to reject, and to shitpost any constructive discussion against your agenda is now out there. If I get banned for ousting you, so be it. If I were a mod you’d be the one taking a hike.

Now fuck off once and for all.


I'll just wait for the PC version?
Yeah same here. Best way to play.
 
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looking forward to getting this at a discount. also, we're still using the 'pc gaming requires hours of setup' line? it's not even close to that, a little tweaking to optimize performance and that's it. meh.
 

sainraja

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I hope it comes to PC... its beautiful and super amazing ... The combat is amazing... more people need to play and witness what generic copy-paste trash Ubisoft has been passing around every year...

I already platinumed it on PS4 Pro....
This. It brought me back to the days of games like Tenchu & Ninja - Shadow of Darkness (the days I miss soo much). Oddly enough, I got Shadow of Darkness because at the time I couldn't remember the name of Tenchu and thought Shadow of Darkness was it lol. I know we've had other games but with GOT, I dunno, it just all came together well. I am probably close to platinum and it could end up being my first.
 
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ClosBSAS

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looking forward to getting this at a discount. also, we're still using the 'pc gaming requires hours of setup' line? it's not even close to that, a little tweaking to optimize performance and that's it. meh.
honestly to me, the whole fun of pc gaming is tweaking my shit. i love tweaking .ini files and trying mods and shit. ppl just love to kill pc gaming for that but in the end plenty of .ini tweaks have saved the games.
 
Will double dip.

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With that said, a PC release dilutes the console. Which is why the XSX is not even on my radar.
I'll be guilty of double-dipping if it comes to PC. My 3 biggest and totally valid complaints were:

  1. 30fps on PS4Pro
  2. Story barely straddles the line of mediocre, closer to bad territory.
  3. It wasn't a new Tenchu.
My biggest issue was the 30fps lock. Game is stunning, has incredible art direction and music and I really enjoyed it. Game came out right before my daughter was born and when we got back from the hospital I'd sit right there in the living room playing PS4Pro with her in her bassinet and I'd play in between her feedings. I think the game will always kind of hold a special place in my heart because of the circumstances in which I played it. Granted, I wouldn't feel slighted if I played it on PS5 as if you get rid of that framerate lock, there isn't too much to complain about in regards to presentation. Amazing game and I look forward to replaying it.

The whole PC dilutes the consoles argument is really dumb. Where do you think the money is made? It's from a cut of the software sold. Literally a majority of all these console makers want you to spend a majority of your money buying software, it's the whole point of trying to get you a box, so they can take a cut of all the software sold. I had NO interest in buying 3rd party games on my PS4, so all I ever bought for it was 1st party games that I found interesting, and even then, there were only a handful. The PS5 has next to nothing that has me interested enough to buy a console, but I would be willing to replay a few of those great PS4 games again and willing to pay for them too.
 
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KungFucius

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I guess you're right.

They're going to have to put out some more statements if PS5 games start showing up on time. People are going to flip out when they realize they were lied to. Being vague about it is going to be a mistake in the long run.
Ah no. They are not being lied to. Only entitled, overreacting fanboys get upset over PC ports. Seriously why do people get upset if more people can have access to their favorite games?
 
Ah no. They are not being lied to. Only entitled, overreacting fanboys get upset over PC ports. Seriously why do people get upset if more people can have access to their favorite games?
Lack of communication and explanation of their strategy. If they know that all games are coming to PC, they can make an informed decision about whether or not they want a PC or a PS5, instead of being told they are exclusives, and then having that change at a later date. I explained this in my post.
 

somesang

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Hope this is true. Non Sony players need their hands on this. Such a lovely game. Just started again on PS5 and was reminded why it's one of my GOTY.
 

GymWolf

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I'll be guilty of double-dipping if it comes to PC. My 3 biggest and totally valid complaints were:

  1. 30fps on PS4Pro
  2. Story barely straddles the line of mediocre, closer to bad territory.
  3. It wasn't a new Tenchu.
My biggest issue was the 30fps lock. Game is stunning, has incredible art direction and music and I really enjoyed it. Game came out right before my daughter was born and when we got back from the hospital I'd sit right there in the living room playing PS4Pro with her in her bassinet and I'd play in between her feedings. I think the game will always kind of hold a special place in my heart because of the circumstances in which I played it. Granted, I wouldn't feel slighted if I played it on PS5 as if you get rid of that framerate lock, there isn't too much to complain about in regards to presentation. Amazing game and I look forward to replaying it.

The whole PC dilutes the consoles argument is really dumb. Where do you think the money is made? It's from a cut of the software sold. Literally a majority of all these console makers want you to spend a majority of your money buying software, it's the whole point of trying to get you a box, so they can take a cut of all the software sold. I had NO interest in buying 3rd party games on my PS4, so all I ever bought for it was 1st party games that I found interesting, and even then, there were only a handful. The PS5 has next to nothing that has me interested enough to buy a console, but I would be willing to replay a few of those great PS4 games again and willing to pay for them too.
You forgot the VERY bad stealth and some other things.

But yeah, A great 7\10 game, probably an 8\9 if you really like samurai stuff\art design and you don't care about the flaws.
 

StreetsofBeige

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People root for sports team, racing team, movies, books, music...

Why a person can root for a videogame maker? Yes, it is silly, but it is not absurd.
Heck, we even have some of forum fanboys here.
Because for sports teams, you want your team to win because there's one championship. The worse another team does the better your chances.

When it comes to book and movies, people have their favourites (I like old Arnie movies), but it doesn't mean I hate Stallone or Willis flicks. There's no point hating another actor's movies for the heck of it.

For gaming, I don't get how random PC gamers playing a game half way around the world affects a console ecosystem warrior. Doesn't matter if it's MS, Sony or Nintendo. If a PC gamer gets to play a console game (especially one that is released years later), how does that make his console game less fun?
 

Bogroll

Likes moldy games
You forgot the VERY bad stealth and some other things.

But yeah, A great 7\10 game, probably an 8\9 if you really like samurai stuff\art design and you don't care about the flaws.
I thought this game was great looking at the reviews and I was thinking of getting it for the PS5. Have you played Days Gone and if you have would you say this better than DG.
Reason I ask is DG got mixed reviews and I'm playing it on PSPlus and I think its quite good in short (1hr sessions)spurts but only 5 hrs in.
 

sainraja

Member
You forgot the VERY bad stealth and some other things.

But yeah, A great 7\10 game, probably an 8\9 if you really like samurai stuff\art design and you don't care about the flaws.
I don't think the game was trying to be a stealth focused game. It was just providing us with a variety of ways to take on enemies in the game - allowing us to mix it up. I disagree with you about the stealth mechanics being 'very' bad. I think they worked well in the game.
 
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sainraja

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I thought this game was great looking at the reviews and I was thinking of getting it for the PS5. Have you played Days Gone and if you have would you say this better than DG.
Reason I ask is DG got mixed reviews and I'm playing it on PSPlus and I think its quite good in short (1hr sessions)spurts but only 5 hrs in.
I would say it is better than Days Gone. I still need to finish Days Gone so my opinion on that game could change but GOT is better if you ask me.
 

GymWolf

Gold Member
I thought this game was great looking at the reviews and I was thinking of getting it for the PS5. Have you played Days Gone and if you have would you say this better than DG.
Reason I ask is DG got mixed reviews and I'm playing it on PSPlus and I think its quite good in short (1hr sessions)spurts but only 5 hrs in.
Days gone is another very good 7\10 for me but i'm more biased with that one because i love sons of anarchy\monsters stuff and sam witwer (the protagonist) far more than samurai stuff.

I really can't say what is the better game, both games have huge flaws and huge selling points.

Days gone is much longer and a bit on the tooth by the end but the challenge is a bit higher and i liked the characters\story far more.

The first 10 hours of DG are the weakest (not for me, just the general opinion) so if you enjoy the game now, you are gonna enjoy even more later unless you get burned out.
 
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Saber

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I don't think the game was trying to be a stealth focused game. It was just providing us with a variety of ways to take on enemies in the game - allowing us to mix it up. I disagree with you about the stealth mechanics being 'very' bad. I think they worked well in the game.

Indeed. You can face them directly or like me, battle them using ranged weapons. The game is pretty fair about how you face enemies.
 
I would say it is better than Days Gone. I still need to finish Days Gone so my opinion on that game could change but GOT is better if you ask me.
Is Days Gone worth finishing? I lost my interest after getting the camp unlocked on the south east. 3rd camp unlocked. Everything felt repetitive at that point, and I just gave up to play other stuff.
 
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GymWolf

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I don't think the game was trying to be a stealth focused game. It was just providing us with a variety of ways to take on enemies in the game - allowing us to mix it up. I disagree with you about the stealth mechanics being 'very' bad. I think they worked well in the game.
The game is literally called GHOST of tsushima and a gigantic part of the game is jin becoming a ninja that kills his enemies from behind wothout honor, so having a super weak and piss easy stealth part is absolutely a big problem unless we try to hide behind a finger (i don't know if you americans use this figure of speech.)

The game has legit worst stealth than the latest ac games and people can tell you how much i love sucker punch and how much i hate ubisoft...
 
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EverydayBeast

thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Ghost of Tsushima is legit historic originality and I think it will be apart of this generation's and last's golden years today it should definitely be on PC.
 

sainraja

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Is Days Gone worth finishing? I lost my interest after getting the camp unlocked on the south east. 3rd camp unlocked. Everything felt repetitive at that point, and I just gave up to play other stuff.
Well, I dunno, so far I haven't found the motivation to do so. I plan on going back to it and see if I feel any different. Some of my issues with the game so far have been with the dialogue and some of the animations, Deacon will be speaking so loudly with his buddy over the microphone when the situation around him calls for him to be whisper quiet; I was about to take on a camp and here was Deacon speaking really loud.
 
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sainraja

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The game is literally called GHOST of tsushima and a gigantic part of the game is jin becoming a ninja that kills his enemies from behind wothout honor, so having a super weak and piss easy stealth part is absolutely a big problem unless we try to hide behind a finger (i don't know if you americans use this figure of speach.)

The game has legit worst stealth than the latest ac games and people can tell you how much i love sucker ounch and how much i hate ubisoft...
I mean, I respect your opinion but I didn't feel like the stealth in the game was lacking. I used a combination of stealth, faced enemies head on and sometimes even attacked them via the horse. I thought it was a good blend of different combat styles.
 
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Well, I dunno, so far I haven't found the motivation to do so. I plan on going back to it and see if I feel any different.
Imma try and get back into it tonight or so. I can see where TLOU expounded on the combat of this game. I'd like to see how factions turns out. Supposedly it'll have a bigger player base this time around
 
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sainraja

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Imma try and get back into it tonight or so. I can see where TLOU expounded on the combat is this game. I'd like to see how factions turns out. Supposedly it'll have a bigger player base this time around
There are games I have liked after going back to it later so hoping Days Gone might be the same but when I booted it up last and played through the camp mission, it didn't "click" but we shall see. I am somewhat in the beginning of the game (basically after you drop his injured buddy off.)
 

GymWolf

Gold Member
I mean, I respect your opinion but I didn't feel like the stealth in the game was lacking. I used a combination of stealth, faced enemies head on and sometimes even attacked them via the horse. I thought it was a good blend of different combat styles.
I mean, the ia was completely brain dead with shitty sight and hearing for the enemies and it was super easy because the game gives you a ton of tools and some of them are just OP without any skills requested, i loved the variety but mechanically was too much easy to get away with stealth.

I stopped doing stealth because it was dreadfull and even more easy than the combat itself, at least the combat is not completely brainless and you need some timing.

I think that every decent open world game offers you a blend of stealth and normal combat, and tsushima with his single and unique main weapon wasn't even that varied imo.
Sure you have the 4 styles but they are deep as puddle, it was basically "choose the right style to do more damage\stun" it was not something like nioh where stances are more than that, shit you didn't even had to memorize what style was better for a certain enemy because the icon of the style already show you that, and don't let me start on the special moves (again cool as fuck, but too powerfull)

I very much enjoyed the game but it has gigantic margins of improvements for the sequel.
 
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Kazza

Member
A half price HZD at the top of the Steam charts again:



Games have long legs on PC, which is one of the reasons why Sony is so keen. Good to see another console exclusive coming in at second place too.

GoT is one of the few Sony exclusives I'd be interested in playing on PC, so I really hope this is true.
 

metaverse

Member
I'll be guilty of double-dipping if it comes to PC. My 3 biggest and totally valid complaints were:

  1. 30fps on PS4Pro
  2. Story barely straddles the line of mediocre, closer to bad territory.
  3. It wasn't a new Tenchu.
My biggest issue was the 30fps lock. Game is stunning, has incredible art direction and music and I really enjoyed it. Game came out right before my daughter was born and when we got back from the hospital I'd sit right there in the living room playing PS4Pro with her in her bassinet and I'd play in between her feedings. I think the game will always kind of hold a special place in my heart because of the circumstances in which I played it. Granted, I wouldn't feel slighted if I played it on PS5 as if you get rid of that framerate lock, there isn't too much to complain about in regards to presentation. Amazing game and I look forward to replaying it.

The whole PC dilutes the consoles argument is really dumb. Where do you think the money is made? It's from a cut of the software sold. Literally a majority of all these console makers want you to spend a majority of your money buying software, it's the whole point of trying to get you a box, so they can take a cut of all the software sold. I had NO interest in buying 3rd party games on my PS4, so all I ever bought for it was 1st party games that I found interesting, and even then, there were only a handful. The PS5 has next to nothing that has me interested enough to buy a console, but I would be willing to replay a few of those great PS4 games again and willing to pay for them too.

Agreed. 30 FPS feels like a slideshow to me. I would gladly pay a premium price for a more powerful console. Double/triple+ the price of current gen for better performance. When I talk about diluting a console/platform, the exclusivity of a game being on a single platform. Business wise, this is a a great decision. For example, would the Nintendo Switch continuously sell out if you could play their games on the latest Android or iOS device?
 
I wouldn't be too surprised to see this being pretty standard moving forwards, it just makes sense for everybody concerned.
I think it's going to be simple for them to see a good time to do it with their first party games and I can imagine it makes sense for it to happen some time after the cobsole launch and they know that sales of the games on console are past the point of return. I wouldn't be too surprised to see that there's a bit of a bump in sales on console whenever they release a PS5 update for games but if there isn't some sort of expansion on the way then it makes no sense not to do it.
I do actually wonder if games arriving on PC may actual raise visibility of a game again and maybe even gain a few sales on teh console side again.
I'd imagine there will still be some games that they choose not to release on PC but I think it would be more about the difficulty of converting some games to PC. Not that any would be impossible but if you're going to spend more money creating a PC version than you expect to make selling then unless they'redoing it for alternative benefits it doesn't really make sense to do it.
 

sainraja

Member
I mean, the ia was completely brain dead with shitty sight and hearing for the enemies and it was super easy because the game gives you a ton of tools and some of them are just OP without any skills requested, i loved the variety but mechanically was too much easy to get away with stealth.

I stopped doing stealth because it was dreadfull and even more easy than the combat itself, at least the combat is not completely brainless and you need some timing.

I think that every decent open world game offers you a blend of stealth and normal combat, and tsushima with his single and unique main weapon wasn't even that varied imo.
Sure you have the 4 styles but they are deep as puddle, it was basically "choose the right style to do more damage\stun" it was not something like nioh where stances are more than that, shit you didn't even had to memorize what style was better for a certain enemy because the icon of the style already show you that, and don't let me start on the special moves (again cool as fuck, but too powerfull)

I very much enjoyed the game but it has gigantic margins of improvements for the sequel.
Ah, I dunno. I enjoyed it haha, perhaps it was too simple for your tastes. I felt it had the right balance of everything. I have Nioh so once I start my playthrough, I'll better understand what you are talking about. I only played the intro area.
 
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GymWolf

Gold Member
Ah, I dunno. I enjoyed it haha. Felt it had the right balance of everything. I have Nioh so once I start my playthrough, I'll better understand what you are talking about. I only played the intro area.
In nioh you are gonna notice that changing stance is more than just damage bonus, there is not a perfect stance for a specific enemy, it's a trade off between power, speed, poise, evading prowess, block prowess and moveset.

Also more weapons so more variety and faaaar more challenge.

Don't get me wrong, i still prefer tsushima as a game overall, but not in all the aspects.
 
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GymWolf

Gold Member
I think this game would look really nice on PC. 4K, 60fps and they could increase the asset quality so the game looks more like the trailers did.

Shit if they can replicate the first trailer 1:1 they are gonna earn a double dip from me.

The very first one i think is off the table tho, that shit was bananas

 
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martino

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A half price HZD at the top of the Steam charts again:



Games have long legs on PC, which is one of the reasons why Sony is so keen. Good to see another console exclusive coming in at second place too.

GoT is one of the few Sony exclusives I'd be interested in playing on PC, so I really hope this is true.
it's also because with full digital you can't get cheap physical copy sony see no money from.
 
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I have a PS5 and a PC. But I hate playing games on my PC. It's just not a good platform to play games on.

So yes, I'd be really happy if Sony removed all their games from that garbage platform. I'd be even happier if every publisher did too.

Someone should just launch a nuke at the steam and ms servers and call it a day. That would save me a lot of hassle.
This is why you don't do drugs.
 

vkbest

Member
it's also because with full digital you can't get cheap physical copy sony see no money from.

Sony got royalties from the beginning on Physical copies. lol.

Even if the game don't sell well, Sony, MS and Nintendo got the royalties previously.

Physical copies are licensed too.

Sony will lose too much money if people stop to buying PS5 to get a PC. The most profitable to MS and Sony is third party licensing royalties.
 
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vkbest

Member
you missed the point but i'm not surprised because of "lol" and i will not help you to see it.
try to use your brain : what am i talking about that can make sense ?

I didn't miss anything. Sony got royalties before you could buy the physical copy. Its even better for them, the game dont need even sell for them getting royalties. So lower price on physical copies don't affect to Sony, MS or Nintendo, because they get royalties when they are manufacturing the physical blurays

Last, don't forget, who decides the price on PSN its the publisher, not Sony unless the game is from Sony
 
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RGB'D

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I would wait for a deal. I had a blast with it for 15 hours until nothing changed and it was repetitive as hell. I made it a little ways into the second area and abandoned it for good. Story was not very good and couldn't keep me interested enough to bother with thes rest.
 

martino

Member
I didn't miss anything. Sony got royalties before you could buy the physical copy. Its even better for them, the game dont need even sell for them getting royalties. So lower price on physical copies don't affect to Sony, MS or Nintendo, because they get royalties when they are manufacturing the physical blurays

Last, don't forget, who decides the price on PSN its the publisher, not Sony unless the game is from Sony
All this is true but it was never about that.Again, you missed something about legs and what happen to a part of physical copies sold.
come on ! you can do it !
 

vkbest

Member
All this is true but it was never about that.Again, you missed something about legs and what happen to a part of physical copies sold.
come on ! you can do it !

"it's also because with full digital you can't get cheap physical copy sony see no money from."

You said "Sony see no money from". And that is false, because those physical games ultra cheap didn't sold 1 year ago, Sony got the royalties money from 1 year ago at full price.

The game will have legs if people want to buy it. Games like Horizon are manufacturing yet today at lower price, or you really think the copy you could buy today, was manufactured 4 years ago?. Only games what were commercial failures don't have legs. So, physical copies don't damage legs anyway except for the second hand market
 
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