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GTA 6 will ‘set creative benchmarks for the series’, claims publisher Take-Two.

EDMIX

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Resident rockstar defender....😆 Nice try, but...

I don't need to when the facts/reality show the best in the business pedigree of Rockstar.

I mean RDR2 got a 97 meta, sold like 44million.

GTA5 has sold an unprecedented 165 million and also scored 97.

Agreed.

I don't see why people get so emotional and reach to this bullshit. The company has moved too many units and won too many awards to pretend their next game will be shit cuz some gamers are triggered over dumb shit.

The game has the funding to push gaming to some wild limits, this team is the open world king right along with Bethesda and even my issues with RDR2, don't every fucking disregard that its one of the best open world titles ever made. I had issues with the walking animation like him not running sometimes during shootouts and the weird control scheme like when the weapon wheel wouldn't remember your set up, but other then that....its a solid title and I don't even have a close second to get that type of experience on those platforms. So I think gamers tend to exaggerate those issues and unless someone is doing it bigger and better then them, they are the kings in this genre.

Its like my issues with Fallout and Elder Scrolls...and what game is second to those concepts? They are in a league of their own, which means maybe my issues with those games isn't that massive and what those games offer isn't the norm to believe my gripes are the end of the world or something.

GTA VI is still going to shit on the majority of open world crime games and will be the benchmark. I don't think that is a "rockstar defender" thing to believe, I'd say that even if I fucking hated the company. They factually have done too much for me to believe all that will go away with GTA VI.
 

Perrott

Member
Rockstar didn't say anything. It's their parent publisher who did. Which means absolutely jack shit.

Insane to me how people don't realize there's a difference between something that comes out of the developer's own mouths and the mouths of top brass who are willing to say anything true or not for publicity.
Either way, as much as executives like to spit PR bullshit 24/7, being Rockstar that we're talking about here, he's probably right in the claims he's making because GTA VI will at the very least be insanely ambitious in scope.
 

DETACA

Banned
Rockstar games have always set new benchmarks for open world games, see RDR2. So yeah, it's not hard to believe GTA6 will look stunning.

brother, can you tell me how many posts new users requires to create there own thread in this forum ?
 

EDMIX

Member
Either way, as much as executives like to spit PR bullshit 24/7, being Rockstar that we're talking about here, he's probably right in the claims he's making because GTA VI will at the very least be insanely ambitious in scope.

Agreed and with the amount of time and money they have to make some crazy next gen GTA, they are going to be doing some wild shit. If RDR2 can have as much quality and content as it did, GTA being their bread and butter is going to be fucking insane. I see no reason to doubt such claims.

This team has always set some standard for open world games. I'm still shocked at how good RDR2 looks for an open world title lol
 

Badbreezy

Member
Rockstar didn't say anything. It's their parent publisher who did. Which means absolutely jack shit.

Insane to me how people don't realize there's a difference between something that comes out of the developer's own mouths and the mouths of top brass who are willing to say anything true or not for publicity.
You realize that TAKETWO own rockstar games, so big wigs at the publishing will get the updates about the game. Take-Two give reports to stockholders
 

EDMIX

Member
You realize that TAKETWO own rockstar games, so big wigs at the publishing will get the updates about the game. Take-Two give reports to stockholders

I think they mean their ode is to market the game no matter what, regardless if they saw it or not.

Thats like saying someone who does PR for Pepsi is telling folks how great the new flavor is going to be and acting shocked they may have not actually tasted it...their goal is to hype up the next product. I'm not saying they are lying and never saw the game or anything, simply that they'd say this no matter what as they still need to market the next GTA in the greatest light, so I feel PR shit like this is moot and shouldn't be used as some claim against the developer cause the publisher is hyping up their teams.

Thats their job. They are going to say some wild shit and I feel we don't need a thread like this any time some publisher tells you "This year is going to be OUT OF THIS WORLD"

Gamers be like "not only was it WITHIN this world, it never left the ground, stayed within the city limits...who is letting Rockstar get away with these lies btw?" lol
 

Boss Mog

Member
>get into car
>drive somewhere while dialogue runs
>arrive
>shoot people
>get into car
>drive home while dialogue runs

creative/10
At least in GTA you can listen to the radio, which had some really funny segments and commercials, not to mention you drive around in nice sports cars, or fly jets. Now look at RDR, same gameplay loop but there's no radio, you're on a slow ass horse and the world is completely empty for the most part, and people think it's awesome for some reason. Not to mention the fact that RDR has virtually zero diversity in terms of missions or weapons, GTA at least tries a little in those departments.
 

TMLT

Member
I'm not optimistic. The exploitative hyper monetization of V, the lack of key personnel and this being the first GTA since the world went aggressively woke doesnt really bode well. Of course whatever happens it will sell bucketloads and get rave reviews from most outlets though.
 
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EDMIX

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the world is completely empty for the most part, and people think it's awesome for some reason.

Well not entirely true. You come across all sorts of shit while traveling, like someone being hurt and you find out their are bandits out to rob you when you try to help, or catching wild animals, or the option to free bandits being taken by cops to jail or be hanged or something. So I'd say they did a great job with those random encounters to make those travels feel adventurous.

So yes...people will find that awesome for good reason.

Thats simply too logical to have in a title to really question why someone might like that or think its awesome even if you didn't.

TheGodfather07 TheGodfather07 cause its the "kool" thing to do. They will give the shocked Pikachu face when the game does gangbusters lol Then proceed to backpedal and goal post its success, be like "ok its at 70 million in 2 years, but thats NOT 170 million, THUS IT FAILED and FAILED TO SELL BETTER THEN GTAV, it will stop selling and no one will like it....startiinnnnnnnnng now" lol
 
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Well not entirely true. You come across all sorts of shit while traveling, like someone being hurt and you find out their are bandits out to rob you when you try to help, or catching wild animals, or the option to free bandits being taken by cops to jail or be hanged or something. So I'd say they did a great job with those random encounters to make those travels feel adventurous.

So yes...people will find that awesome for good reason.

Thats simply too logical to have in a title to really question why someone might like that or think its awesome even if you didn't.

TheGodfather07 TheGodfather07 cause its the "kool" thing to do. They will give the shocked Pikachu face when the game does gangbusters lol Then proceed to backpedal and goal post its success, be like "ok its at 70 million in 2 years, but thats NOT 170 million, THUS IT FAILED and FAILED TO SELL BETTER THEN GTAV, it will stop selling and no one will like it....startiinnnnnnnnng now" lol

Yeah, I love this forum but 80% of the users are whiny miserable bastards. I don't know what makes anyone worried for the quality of GTA 6. For me it's the opposite. I know it will be quality. Why wouldn't it? It's a mainline GTA game that's going to release like over 10 years after its predecessor.the hype is going to be insane when its revealed and we can already say that it will be the biggest game launch of all time breaking every record there is. There's no doubt about it.
 
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EDMIX

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Yeah, I love this forum but 80% of the users are whiny miserable bastards. I don't know what makes anyone worried for the quality of GTA 6. For me it's the opposite. I know it will be quality. Why wouldn't it? It's a mainline GTA game that's going to release like over 10 years after its predecessor.the hype is going to be insane when its revealed and we can already say that it will be the biggest game launch of all time breaking every record there is. There's no doubt about it.

Agreed.

I think gamers just think they are being edgey or giving some deep truth by acting like everyone should be worried about GTA VI's quality.

I don't see any evidence to support GTA VI will have questionable quality. I think its going to be the standard for open world crime titles and push the tech like no other for some time.

Its writing, mission structure etc can all be debated and all that remains to be questioned, but I see no evidence that its quality will be lacking as its just a dumb thing to assume at this point. I think gamers simply have a hard time remaining objective and truthful and force too much of their personal views on theses subjects and can't be taken seriously after a while. You legit can't get a truthful answer out from some as they are hell bent on this GTA hate train thing lol I have titles I personally dislike too, I don't however go out of my way to then pretend the game will have low quality for the genre or something. I can admit that I dislike some titles with great quality, I don't just fucking play all games 100%, if I personally dislike a game for some reason other then the quality, I voice it and leave it at that, vs pretending me not liking Arthur Morgan now means GTA VI will release looking like a PS1 game lol
 
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Santa Monica studios hasn't made a new ip since 2001, they must not be creative either. They didn't work on the ports. Should have just never released rdr 2 online, would that have been better?

Until they actually develop a shit game, they're still the GOAT whether you like it or not
Except SSM never released remotely ANYWHERE near as many titles and in diffrent genres as Rockstar. GOW is all they are. Rockstar has had several IPS that have been hits. Also you adressed none of the other points I brought up as well. As a consumer...why should I have unbridled faith in a developer that has recently shown they dont give 2 fucks about the consumer satisfaction or what the " fans " want.
 

EDMIX

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Except SSM never released remotely ANYWHERE near as many titles and in diffrent genres as Rockstar. GOW is all they are. Rockstar has had several IPS that have been hits. Also you adressed none of the other points I brought up as well. As a consumer...why should I have unbridled faith in a developer that has recently shown they dont give 2 fucks about the consumer satisfaction or what the " fans " want.
This is just too much angst to take seriously.

That just sounds like code for they didn't do my fanfiction.

So...I'm a fan of GTA, I'm a fan of Red Dead...was satisfied with GTA V and RDR2. Any issues I had with em are just not enough to be like "dont give 2 fucks", its just too much man.

If you tell us what you want from that game, I'm sure someone will say several things that are the opposite, thus neither might even get what the want, that doesn't mean Rockstar doesn't care about that, it means they can't fucking even address ALL comments by ALL "fans". For them to move the record units they moved with GTA V and RDR2, clearly something is going on that is working for them. I don't see anything here arguing they can't make a quality game, I do see a lot of exaggerations and dramatic comic book guy comments though lol
 
This is just too much angst to take seriously.

That just sounds like code for they didn't do my fanfiction.

So...I'm a fan of GTA, I'm a fan of Red Dead...was satisfied with GTA V and RDR2. Any issues I had with em are just not enough to be like "dont give 2 fucks", its just too much man.

If you tell us what you want from that game, I'm sure someone will say several things that are the opposite, thus neither might even get what the want, that doesn't mean Rockstar doesn't care about that, it means they can't fucking even address ALL comments by ALL "fans". For them to move the record units they moved with GTA V and RDR2, clearly something is going on that is working for them. I don't see anything here arguing they can't make a quality game, I do see a lot of exaggerations and dramatic comic book guy comments though lol
What is your opinion on the GTA Trilogy: Definitive Edition?
 

EDMIX

Member
What is your opinion on the GTA Trilogy: Definitive Edition?

Thats its a remake/remaster that should have been handled in house by Rockstar and not outsourced to some no name team....

What? You thought bringing up that fucking game was suppose to make me believe GTAVI, a game with a bigger budget, by a different team was going to suffer the same fate? Ohhhhh my sweet summer child



Be like "What is yo opinion on Assassin's Creed remasterz" ohhhh shit, we should worry about Assassins Creed Valhalla folks, why? Cause a remaster made by a team thats not making the new one, came out bad. Fuck am I suppose to do with this information OneShot? lol

Thats like telling me I should worry about the next Silent Hill game cause how bad those fucking remasters are. I should worry about em sure, but NOT based on how bad the fucking remasters are, they are irrelevant, by a different team and if a new game is going to be bad, I need to base it off of the history of the actual team itself, not the IP solely, or the publisher or some other thing to slander the team or IP. Thats like saying to worry about FFXV cause of all those issues with FFX's PS4 port lol or worry about SFV cause of that bad SF4 port. It tries to stretch or exaggerate a bad port and extend that idea to a different team just cause its the same IP.

It was a nice try though OneShot...=)
 
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This is just too much angst to take seriously.

That just sounds like code for they didn't do my fanfiction.

So...I'm a fan of GTA, I'm a fan of Red Dead...was satisfied with GTA V and RDR2. Any issues I had with em are just not enough to be like "dont give 2 fucks", its just too much man.

If you tell us what you want from that game, I'm sure someone will say several things that are the opposite, thus neither might even get what the want, that doesn't mean Rockstar doesn't care about that, it means they can't fucking even address ALL comments by ALL "fans". For them to move the record units they moved with GTA V and RDR2, clearly something is going on that is working for them. I don't see anything here arguing they can't make a quality game, I do see a lot of exaggerations and dramatic comic book guy comments though lol
"dramatic comic book guy comments" is a tremendous way to describe them lmao
 
What is your opinion on the GTA Trilogy: Definitive Edition?
It sucked (not as much as people meme, but it was pretty bad), wish Rockstar had worked on it because their work is all bangers

Kind of the point we're getting at

EDIT: wish it had gotten the gta 5 current gen type upgrade, which was great, wonder why?
 
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Thats its a remake/remaster that should have been handled in house by Rockstar and not outsourced to some no name team....

What? You thought bringing up that fucking game was suppose to make me believe GTAVI, a game with a bigger budget, by a different team was going to suffer the same fate? Ohhhhh my sweet summer child



Be like "What is yo opinion on Assassin's Creed remasterz" ohhhh shit, we should worry about Assassins Creed Valhalla folks, why? Cause a remaster made by a team thats not making the new one, came out bad. Fuck am I suppose to do with this information OneShot? lol
I asked a simple question about the quality of a title that was released under Rockstar. Which was always MY point. Theyve definitely made some questionable money hungry descisions the last few years that have been noticed by the fans and in MY OPINION is worth doubting some of the direction they are taking future games. Its cool that we disagree. But why the childish extra emotional responses from you. The gif posts. The" oh you think you got me" attitude. I really dont care to discuss anything on that level. I get it youre a FAN of these games. But these criticisms arent directed at YOU. Take it easy. And ill leave it at that.
 

EDMIX

Member
I asked a simple question about the quality of a title that was released under Rockstar

Twas a loaded question seeking to reach.

"under Rockstar" is not by Rockstar anymore then "under ubisoft" would apply to being concerned about that AC remasters quality in regards to a brand new AC title. They are just irrelevant and tries to force this idea that they have now become one in the same.

They are not.

Rockstar North and Grove Street Games are not the same things.

Theyve definitely made some questionable money hungry descisions the last few years that have been noticed by the fans

They are a business and behave as such, nothing is shocking here.

I get it youre a FAN of these games. But these criticisms arent directed at YOU. Take it easy. And ill leave it at that.

I'm a fan of many games, I however don't see the concern here cause a bad port and I feel the community has a bad habit of exaggerating too much shit. I simply don't see enough here to worry about by the core Rockstar team involved with creating GTA VI.

We got a shit load of ports....I get it.
We got a bad remake/remaster of the PS2 games, I get it.

I simply can't use any of that to then reach to some level of worry about the next GTA anymore then I can about any remaster made that might be bad, all I can do is understand that is based on a bad port team or the publisher choosing to not care about how those ports came out, that can't just automatically be extended to the development of a brand new title. Its just too much of a reach.

I just don't see the need for this "under Rockstar" to force this narrative. Its as bad as the whole Sony, Nintendo, EA or Ubisoft thing where someone just cites the publisher and then ignores the team. Would be like worry about Starfield cause all the Skyrim ports or worry about Elder Scrolls VI cause how bad Fallout 76 was completely disregarding they are not the same teams, but be like "under Bethesda"
 
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Winter John

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I'm excited to see how these creative benchmarks in monetisation will turn out. $10 hair options. $20 character respec. $40 log in fee if players don't log in after 7 consecutive days. The possibilities are endless.
 

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All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.

"All three games "will feature across-the-board upgrades including graphical improvements and modern gameplay enhancements for all three titles, while still maintaining the classic look and feel of the originals"



Oh man can't wait to see how GTA 6 turns out.
Yeah. The Housers are gone. Lazlow is gone. Isn't Leslie Benzies gone as well? There's no one at the helm.
 

EDMIX

Member
Milking GTAV online
Banning modders of the game (some of them even legit players)
GTAV definitive edition shit show
Shit Tier support
Basically abandoned RDO

etc. etc.

annnnnnd none of that would hinder GTAVI's development.

Its like saying we should worry about Elder Scrolls VI and then be like

"Milking Skyrim.
Banning Fallout 76 players
Skyrim VR shitshow
basically abandoned Oblivion"

lol

None of that is going to just magically mean the development of a new game is something to worry about. Noticed how RDR2 won all those awards and moved record units even with that shit online....

They'll be just fine.

Whats even funny is I just noticed you could argue that about them before GTAV's release.

"Milking GTA3,VC and SA,
banning from GTA IV online
any GTA port shit show
basically abandoned GTA IV online and Red Dead Redemption 1's online" lol
 
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Yeah. The Housers are gone. Lazlow is gone. Isn't Leslie Benzies gone as well? There's no one at the helm.
One houser is gone, leslie benzies was the asshole pushing gta 5 online, didn't work on rdr 2. The head writers from gta 4,gta 5,and rdr 2 are still there besides houser. Sam houser is still president of Rockstar. Plenty at the helm lol

Losing Dan houser and lazlow is a bummer, but not worried
 
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EDMIX

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One houser is gone, leslie benzies was the asshole pushing gta 5 online, didn't work on rdr 2. The head writers from gta 4,gta 5,and rdr 2 are still there besides houser. Sam houser is still president of Rockstar. Plenty at the helm lol

Losing Dan houser and lazlow is a bummer, but not worried

lol I'm saying!

I hate that dramatic shit where a few people leave and someone's like "its over folks, the art director to Halo is gone and NOW its going to bad, he was the glue to the whole thing" lol Dan Houser is a legend, but GTA as a concept has such a solid foundation, I don't buy that him leaving is some massive thing to worrying about as if they don't have thousands working on that project.

God Of War was a much more loose concept, shifted directors....lives on. Gamers are just dramatic about stuff like this. I need to see the fucking receipts. We've heard this crap before, so and so left a studio the sky is falling and that shit comes out, breaks records of units and awards etc. I haven't seen much in the way of a whole ass team leaving in the thousands and a game going from record breaking units to flopz never to chart again. People tend to warn this or say this more then it ever seems to occur. I just don't know if where GTA is culturally, if Dan leaving is a massive deal. The majority of gamers couldn't tell you who the fuck that was for me to believe anyone cares that much. I play the games and I don't fucking care lol I hope he makes a fire new IP as I'm buying both what ever he makes and GTAVI day 1
 
GTA V is the currently benchmark. So anything beyond that will set it higher. We can have different opinions about the game, but we cant deny that it's the best open world, and it's the most profitable non battle royale/fps/lol online game. I can't remember another game as big as gta online besides lol fortnite and cod. And it's a game almost 10 years old.
 

RJMacready73

Gold Member
It's insane to me how most people who commented on this thread are actually doubting Rockstar's ambition and ability do deliver on them with a new title considering how Red Dead Redemption 2 blew all expectations out of the water and overdelivered while at the same time being the most gigantic project this industry has ever seen developed thus far.
Same type of people who doubt James Cameron.. R* are top tier Devs, their publisher is a cunt mind but man their games are something else and are as anticipated by gamers and industry types as the next Naughty Dog games ffs
 

Arcadialane

Member
If they add pronouns in order to mock them at any given occasion, they have my respect. That's what I would expect from a GTA game at least.

Remember GTA 5, you had a mission where you had to infiltrate a parody version of facebook/twitter, it completely mocked them.

let's see if rockstar still have a spine to do the pronoun/twiiter mob parodies in gta6.
 
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JohnnyTropics

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Yeah, I love this forum but 80% of the users are whiny miserable bastards. I don't know what makes anyone worried for the quality of GTA 6. For me it's the opposite. I know it will be quality. Why wouldn't it? It's a mainline GTA game that's going to release like over 10 years after its predecessor.the hype is going to be insane when its revealed and we can already say that it will be the biggest game launch of all time breaking every record there is. There's no doubt about it.

There's more nuance to this than simply saying people here are whining because Rockstar is "going woke."
Art has a tone to it, and if you think a tonal change can't significantly alter the product--go watch the Hobbit.
The Lord of the Rings trilogy was put out by New Line, directed by Peter Jackson, and was "epic" and "serious" in tone.
The Hobbit trilogy was put out by New Line, directed by Peter Jackson, and was "light" and "humorous" in tone.
Do the musical numbers by the goblins under the Misty Mountains impact the quality of the Hobbit? I would say yes. It completely changes the product, it takes the viewer out of the immersive experience, and erases any sense of seriousness given to their journey.
That's not to say that the songs are inherently bad, but none the less, they changed the tone of the movie--and most fans of the Lord of the Rings movie trilogy didn't necessarily feel the same love towards the Hobbit.

The "universe" of GTA has always offered a sarcastic take on things that are sacrosanct in society. That tongue-in-cheek presentation allows for what would otherwise be a mass-shooter simulator. It "devalues" the game world to such an extent that it feels like you're walking around in a comic book. It's a joke. The tone is funny, light, ironic, etc.

Whether or not you think it's fine, they're changing the tone. They've introduced sacred cows now. Women can't be mocked. They don't want to "punch down." They are not able to mock modern society any longer. They are a part of it now. They are firmly in the camp of the moral majority. Do you think that a 40 year old man wearing a tutu and following a 9 year old boy into a Target restroom could be the basis for a funny joke? Well, that type of attitude isn't allowed in GTA anymore. It's "punching down."

So now it's a crime simulator that disavows satirical takes on the controversial fringes of society lest they get pushback on Twitter. That is a massive, massive tonal shift for a piece of art.
The graphics will be the best ever; the controls might be tightened up and allow for the best gameplay in the series; it will be expansive, beautiful, immersive, and cutting edge; it's metacritic score will be through the roof; it will sell like hotcakes.
All of these things are true.
But it will be a new product wearing the GTA name. And people who enjoyed GTA for the universe it created might not like this one as much.
 
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"All three games "will feature across-the-board upgrades including graphical improvements and modern gameplay enhancements for all three titles, while still maintaining the classic look and feel of the originals"



Oh man can't wait to see how GTA 6 turns out.

Oh man... ok that is really bad lol. I still have faith in GTA6 but I am coming into this with more caution considering how they handled GTA V online focus etc.
 

billyxci

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Remember GTA 5, you had a mission where you had to infiltrate a parody version of facebook/twitter, it completely mocked them.

let's see if rockstar still have a spine to do the pronoun/twiiter mob parodies in gta6.
I'm not defending them but they might pull something like "GTA VI is set in the year x" to avoid it.

If it's true it's set in Vice City they could set it in the 80s again instead of modern times like the original Vice City. While GTA V did mock fb/twitter the game was heavily influenced by 2008/2009 even though it didn't come out until 2013.

Remember that Rockstar usually starts work on the next game almost immediately after the previous. GTA V began work in late 2008/early 2009 shortly after the release of IV. Rockstar might have started working on VI back in 2014/2015. If they set it around that time or even 2016-2018 it's going to feel heavily dated if they go down the satire of modern society route. It's possible, due to how long we've waited, that they scrapped the original plan but who knows.

All that said I do hope Rockstar still has some spine left in them to do what makes GTA so great and that is mock reality. If they do have the guts then I hope they go all out on Trump, Brexit, Covid, LGBTQABCDEFGHI+, etc.
 
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