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Halo Infinite Multiplayer is out NOW
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Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
We can do this all day mate...
You're overlooking that 100Million aren't playing the game every month or at all anymore vs how many are banned every month 18 months post release. It's a subjective statistic without hard metrics.
I believe at least 1 in 2-3 games have cheaters, more often on PC than console, which results in games like Apex and Infinite not being fair. I would class online latency as having more impact over cheating but cheating is rapidly going from the occasional annoyance at low-mid levels to happening 1 in every 2-3 games pretty obviously (I suppose Apex would be that stat and Infinite would be closer to 1 in 4). That's as far as I'm willing to change my opinion of the current state of Infinite and cheating. I'll leave your opinion to you.
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Concern
Member
I regularly get them but when I got the challenge they were damn near impossible to get
Kagey K
Banned
It's all psychological, get killing sprees non stop, until it's a challenge you start stressing about.I regularly get them but when I got the challenge they were damn near impossible to get
I can kill fuckers with a mangler all day, but as soon as I need to kill 3 people with it, I can't hit shit.
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Sakura
Member
The fact it has to be done on fiesta kills me.I regularly get them but when I got the challenge they were damn near impossible to get
I get 4 kills then someone spawns behind me with a rocket launcher or some shit.
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01011001
Banned
wait until you get a sword, find a good place on the map, just run around there and look at the radar for people you can kill around corners.
due to the extreme randomness of fiesta that was the only strategy that reliably worked for me. I did 2 with just random weapons and the rest with said strategy.
one match I was very lucky and spawned with a SPNKr and a Sword
Concern
Member
No lie. That shit was frustrating tf out of me lol. Once I finished I put the game down till the next challenges come in.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
This is flatout incorrect as people have been able to see the same shaders applied across different cores via a glitch on Halo Waypoint and they looked fine. Nice try, Bonnie Ross
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01011001
Banned
also, again, the bots wear mixed armor with mixed shaders, clearly demonstrating it is easily doable
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Leyasu
Banned
I didn’t realise that we had 343 employees posting on GAF! What an absolute abortion of a post.
Do you have your ping displayed during matches? Because your fluctuating performance could well be down to playing games on high ping servers. This is a 343 game after all. They do like to give you the premium experience lol
Bernkastel
Ask me about my fanboy energy!
01011001
Banned
the hilarious thing is that the first change LITERALLY made progression slower!
I don't know if whoever was responsible for the first change was just stupid or if they did it on purpose in the hopes noone notices
now they need to remove every single challenge that promotes bad gameplay!
no weapon specific challenges!
no vehicle specific challenges!
no challenges that promote playing badly like "get x amount of assists"
no challenges that require your team to suck like "stop an enemy's killing spree"
the game needs challenges that are actually promoting good gameplay... stuff like "Win 1 Slayer Match" or "Win 1 CTF Match"... "Get 10 kills in a single Slayer Match",
"win a Slayer match with a positive K/D", "get 2 double kills in a single slayer match"
challenges like those actually promote GOOD GAMEPLAY and would in no way interfere with matches...
even something like "Kill 50 Spartans" could be an issue because people would run around CTF matches not caring for the objective and only trying to get as many kills as possible, and since CTF has no kill limit it would be a perfect mode to farm in... which in return would sabotage your own team's ability to win. so in such a challenge they need to specify a game mode... "Kill 50 Spartans in Slayer, SWAT or Fiesta" would be fine for example
meaning challenges that make you kill enemies would need to be limited to slayer-type modes... while other modes would need specific challenges that promote good gameplay there, like in CTF you could have "Win a CTF match without letting the enemy team score", which is a bit hard to do but would promote good gameplay since you need to win in order to complete it and you would have to be good at defending your own flag
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Leyasu
Banned
Fuck me wouldn’t it just be better to come out and say that they can’t implement the system that they know they should, because they don’t have any additional content or a second season on the horizon yet and they are trying to keep people interested until they do?
We all know that everything will change once they are capable of releasing a new season every 50-60 days, so why not be honest about it?!
TIGERCOOL
Member
fucking kills me that they said their "top priority" is the battlepass progression. Played a handful of ranked games with friends tonight and we had a blast when it worked but various disconnects and crashes with no ability to rejoin the game after followed by bans killed the mood. How is this not the top priority? these whiney zoomers just cant shut up about their battlepass. Fix the parts of the game that have to do with the actual game first please.
MatrixReloaded101
Member
This^ plus the MP is missing so much content and all we hear is talk about the “battle pass”.
The game is still in the beta phrase according to 343 so hopefully more content is added when the game officially launches on Dec 9.
Gameplaylover
Member
Can you report players on Xbox? Yesterday i had an absolute asshole that teamkilled me twice with a car while i was waiting for the wasp just to get it for himself.
MidGenRefresh
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Leyasu
Banned
Playing on Xbox, and apart from some minor bugs and quirks, the experience has been largely positive for me. I am expecting them to be fixed next week though
Missing maps, modes, weapons, battle pass all boils down to one thing. Content, and they don’t have it. I would love to be proven wrong, but I can’t see them adding much more next week. They are woefully behind schedule for this.
ZehDon
Gold Member
I wondered if 343i were going to speak to the actual issues, or just band-aid the system with passive XP to placate the whales. After two weeks of silence, it's not looking good so far. Faster progression seems nice on paper, but its passive... so this actually doesn't address anything. I suspect their data shows six games a day is the absolute maximum that people buying MTX want to play, so they're tuning the system to keep them coming back. They don't even mention the fact that the game incentives you to not play the objective. They'd better have a very illuminating blog post coming, because the slow progression they're band-aiding here is just a symptom of their terrible system.
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Gameplaylover
Member
Well, he was doing the same and if you know the spawn timers you don't have to wait long.I would report you for standing around and waiting for stuff to drop.
MidGenRefresh
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Well I would report him too. Play the damn objective. 2 people fighting over a fucking Wasp means there's 12 vs 10 in the field.
MrFunSocks
Banned
I’m just about over this ranked bullshit already tbh. They need to sort this out because I’m losing all desire to play it. I just played 8 games and all but 2 of them had 2 or 3 players from the team that was losing quit within minutes. We’re talking the opposition team grabs our flag, doesn’t even capture it, so they quit. Other team gets to 50 in first round of oddball? Quit.
After said 8 matches I finished slightly higher than I was before on platinum 5. Not a single win.
After all this talk about cheating now I am questioning some of the matches. One we were up 23-3 in slayer with the other team basically not even trying, next minute we lost 50-35 with them seemingly never missing a shot.
They can do whatever they want with the progression, couldn’t care less, but they need to sort out quitters and pc cross play.
After said 8 matches I finished slightly higher than I was before on platinum 5. Not a single win.
After all this talk about cheating now I am questioning some of the matches. One we were up 23-3 in slayer with the other team basically not even trying, next minute we lost 50-35 with them seemingly never missing a shot.
They can do whatever they want with the progression, couldn’t care less, but they need to sort out quitters and pc cross play.
Banjo64
cumsessed
It’s piss. Just use the BR when you get one to pick people off at range (team shot), most of the fiesta weapons are short range. Just avoid snipers. You don’t want to be in the thick of it as it’s a rocket/hammer/sword fest.
MrFunSocks
Banned
What do you mean most of the fiesta weapons are short range? It’s just every weapon in the game.
Gameplaylover
Member
What a bullshit. The wasp is so powerful, it can easily win matches. Doesn't matter if 2 people are waiting 1 minute on it. It's much worse if it stands there 1 minute unused.
TIGERCOOL
Member
managed to complete this on my first try because my team was so terrible everyone on the other team had a kill streak.
Banjo64
cumsessed
Sorry, meant to say most deaths occur via the main power weapons - which all excel at short range. If you just sit back and use a BR it’s extremely easy to rack up big kill streaks. I got the 5 killing sprees in a 1 hour session yesterday.
Darlingcognito
Member
Get a grav hammer or sword and hide in a corner and cheese it.
My kd ratio is 1.0 and still managed to do it by playing dirty.
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MidGenRefresh
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BTB is just filled with people like this. Trying to grab the best toys, no matter the cost. Pathetic. If your favourite toy is there or is seconds from spawning - grab it. If not, continue to objective and the next person will grab it.
Wasp is so powerful that 6 shots from Hydra homing missiles bring it down. It's only powerful if you're playing against noobs that don't know how to bring it down.
Gameplaylover
Member
I'm done discussing with an ignorant that didn't even answer my question and just wants to fight. Have a nice day.
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jigglet
Banned
Did they ever post the source for this data?
jigglet
Banned
I wonder: all you guys complaining incessantly about the battle pass (which is a valid complaint to be fair, there's just too much of it): have you played many launch-day PvP games before?
My history with launch-day PvP games has been a depressing fucking mess of broken servers, bad connections, bugs, bugs, and more bugs. It's been a history of taking days off work only to feel that crushing blow when you realise you can't even connect, and the time you and all your friends have taken off have been utterly wasted. It's been nothing but utter fucking darkness. So I'm struggling to reconcile my "darkness" with your "darkness" (oh no I'm earning 100 less points than I wanted to
My history with launch-day PvP games has been a depressing fucking mess of broken servers, bad connections, bugs, bugs, and more bugs. It's been a history of taking days off work only to feel that crushing blow when you realise you can't even connect, and the time you and all your friends have taken off have been utterly wasted. It's been nothing but utter fucking darkness. So I'm struggling to reconcile my "darkness" with your "darkness" (oh no I'm earning 100 less points than I wanted to
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
What's worse is they've developed their own slipspace engine over 6+ years and experience from Halo 4/5/MCC and still not in a place where rapid changes can simply be tweaked and/or deployed. Poor planning and system architecture if you ask me, while also leaving behind all those system changes from MCC. Talk about having to double dip.
Paradicia
Member
I play on a 65 inch TV and I found that 120 FOV goes a long way for giving yourself a competitive advantage. It won't be for everyone, but I personally found it very useful for helping keep an eye on everything around you. It also makes you feel like you're speed running a Doom map because the warped effect gives you a sense of speed. It honestly makes everything feel 10 times faster
Robochobo
Member
Concern
Member
"Patience"? People are smashing their laptops lol.
Progression is absolute trash. I'm just putting the game down when weeklys are done. I'll take the extra xp daily boost tho and drop it.
I agree with the complaint about content but we're not sure if more maps or anything else will release the 8th.
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
What's a customization hacker? Aren't these available in the game?got my first "customization" hacker probably... player from steam obviously...
Sakura
Member
Yeah that's probably what I'll do. Just need 2 more.
I know people say to camp with the sword/hammer but my ping from where I am makes those weapons a bit more difficult for me.
Nah not the challenge to kill people on killing streaks, the weekly ultimate to get 5 killing streaks yourself on Fiesta.
Ignoring the speed of progression, the biggest issue, in my opinion, is that the challenges don't incentivize you to play the game well.
Rather than stupid ass challenges like get 15 kills with the rocket mongoose, the challenges should focus on rewarding you for being a good team player, playing well, etc. Have challenges for getting headshots, for getting offensive/defensive zone kills in strongholds, for capturing or escorting the flag carrier to a capture in CTF, etc. That sort of stuff. Remove these dumb weapon specific or vehicle challenges. You just end up getting a bunch of people who care about doing their challenges and don't care about winning the match.
The challenges should be focused on making the player want to win.
Considering how fast they were able to implement new daily challenges for getting XP by playing matches, they should be able to do this in an equally timely matter. After all, you're just swapping out challenges with other ones, like they've already done.
The real reason they don't want to do this, and why they say "it takes time" is because the progression system is designed to waste your time and provide you with BS challenges. It's designed this way to make sure it takes a lot of time to complete because they are short on content and need to drag out the season (same reason why the Tenrai event is spread out over multiple months), and to encourage you to buy challenge swaps.
I absolutely hate PR excuse nonsense like this.
AJUMP23
Gold Member
I am playing on an LTE connection and have yet to have one drop from a game. I don't know what your issue is. I have had a game or two where my updates were choppy.
Banjo64
cumsessed
Just seen the new XP for playing:
1st Game = 300XP
2nd Game = 200XP
3rd Game = 200XP
4th Game = 100XP
5th Game = 100XP
6th Game = 100XP
7th+ Game = 50XP
Got to say this is extremely generous IMO. I thought changing it to 100xp a game would be fair, but instead they’ve frontloaded it so you get 1000xp after 6 games. Don’t see how anyone can complain about BP progression now.
1st Game = 300XP
2nd Game = 200XP
3rd Game = 200XP
4th Game = 100XP
5th Game = 100XP
6th Game = 100XP
7th+ Game = 50XP
Got to say this is extremely generous IMO. I thought changing it to 100xp a game would be fair, but instead they’ve frontloaded it so you get 1000xp after 6 games. Don’t see how anyone can complain about BP progression now.
Helghan
Member
But that's normal, other F2P games have this too. Take Apex Legends for example, it also has challenges like kill this amount of people with this gun.
Sakura
Member
I've never played Apex Legends, nor do I play any other F2P shooter.
From what I understand though, Apex Legends and Halo are different games. Apex Legends is a battle royale (correct me if I'm wrong). The only thing that should matter then, is staying alive to the end. You can't complete your challenges if you are dead. You can also play the game solo if you wanted. Does Apex Legends give you any sort of XP for winning a game or performing well? Halo doesn't.
Halo is a team based (no FFA yet) arena shooter. Say the game type is capture the flag, and my challenge is to get kills with X vehicle. Many players will just forget about the objective, and instead camp the vehicle spawn. Why? Because the game doesn't give you any incentive to actually play the objective. You don't get any XP for winning the game. You don't get challenge progress for winning the game. The only way to progress your battlepass, is to complete the challenges, but the challenges will often fly in the face of the objective.
twilo99
Member
I was trying to find out as well but no luck.
twilo99
Member
I've been telling you all the progression bit is an easy fix..