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[Great Hair]

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[Bernd Lauert]

TL;DW: Xbox draws less energy and is quiter than PS5, at the expense of being slightly hotter.

 

[spyshagg]

One of the consoles is a bit above the ideal power/performance curve of the 7nm node.

Dont kill the messenger.

 

[Certinty]

TL;DW: Xbox draws less energy and is quiter than PS5, at the expense of being slightly hotter.

Insane engineering, my Series X on every game is far quieter than my PS5 playing PS4 games. Crazy difference.

 

[Loxus]

Insane engineering, my Series X on every game is far quieter than my PS5 playing PS4 games. Crazy difference.

I find it funny you can hear the PS5's fan, unless you mean the Blu-ray drive?

 

[Leyasu]

Is that right that the XsX draws more power horizontal? II have mine hoizontal

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Is that right that the XsX draws more power horizontal? II have mine hoizontal

Unexpected FPS boost.

 

[skit_data]

Did I hear hot?
Hotter than inside the burning house?

*concerning intensifies*
/s

 

[ethomaz]

That is interesting... I wish to have power measurement to all games.

~200W is the peak power draw for for Series X? FH5 seems to not stress the system compared with Gears 5 or Battlefield 5.

 

[reksveks]

I find it funny you can hear the PS5's fan, unless you mean the Blu-ray drive?

Think it's the combo of coil whine and/or the fan lottery that causes issues that I have read online.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Think it's the combo of coil whine and/or the fan lottery that causes issues that I have read online.

Dude in the video measured both, it's 25 db for PS5 and 15 db for XSX. Considering I can hear my XSX if I turn the TV volume to zero and concentrate a bit, it's not that surprising that people can hear the PS5 imo.

 

[M1chl]

Is that right that the XsX draws more power horizontal? II have mine hoizontal

Worse cooling in the position (more heat) = more resistance to switch the transistor.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Dude in the video measured both, it's 25 db for PS5 and 15 db for XSX. Considering I can hear my XSX if I turn the TV volume to zero and concentrate a bit, it's not that surprising that people can hear the PS5 imo.

100% the Series X is quieter then the PS5 but not by wide margins

 

[elliot5]

Both are very well designed machines (other than aesthetics), but gotta give props to MS for the compact and power efficient design of the XSX. I'd be curious for an XSS test/teardown like this just for the data

 

[Agent_Nobody]

Is that right that the XsX draws more power horizontal? II have mine hoizontal

One of the features that I thought was really smart on the SX was having the fans blow the heat upwards and out in the vertical position. Since hot air rises pretty much the most efficient way of expelling it is up and out, so it’s not really a surprise the fans have to run a bit harder to keep temperature in check in the horizontal position.

 

[JackMcGunns]

100% the Series X is quieter then the PS5 but not by wide margins

10db difference is considered "Noticeable"

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

10db difference is considered "Noticeable"

Its noticeable to me for sure its not huge though

 

[Bo_Hazem]

 

[twilo99]

TL;DW: Xbox draws less energy and is quiter than PS5, at the expense of being slightly hotter.

Which I don't get since drawing less energy should in theory produce less heat ?

 

[Mr Moose]

Which I don't get since drawing less energy should in theory produce less heat ?

Slower fan.

 

[twilo99]

Insane engineering, my Series X on every game is far quieter than my PS5 playing PS4 games. Crazy difference.

I think Microsoft gave that project a bit of a loose budget because the series x is an overengineered product for what it is

 

[twilo99]

Slower fan.

oh, yeah...

lol

 

[Riky]

Makes me wonder just how much further Microsoft could have pushed clock speeds rather than just settling for double Xbox One X performance, maybe 13-14 Tflops would have been possible.

 

[Clear]

Excellent vid, enjoyed that.

 

[Loxus]

10db difference is considered "Noticeable"

I know right, I wish I had super hearing like some on here.

Noise measurement of common sounds:

• Whisper: 30 dB
• Normal conversation: 60 dB
• Lawn mower: 90 dB
• Movie theater: 80-100 dB
• Live music: 100-115 dB

 

[Low Moral Fibre]

My XSX is definitely quieter than my PS5 but both are magnitudes better than the junk cooling systems we got in everything but the X1X last gen.

 

[Loxus]

Makes me wonder just how much further Microsoft could have pushed clock speeds rather than just settling for double Xbox One X performance, maybe 13-14 Tflops would have been possible.

Then how would they be able to keep the chip cooled?
It's all a balancing act.

 

[Leyasu]

Worse cooling in the position (more heat) = more resistance to switch the transistor.

One of the features that I thought was really smart on the SX was having the fans blow the heat upwards and out in the vertical position. Since hot air rises pretty much the most efficient way of expelling it is up and out, so it’s not really a surprise the fans have to run a bit harder to keep temperature in check in the horizontal position.

Thanks for the replies. Now I am looking for somewhere safe to stand my XsX upright.

I should not have clicked on this thread

 

[ParaSeoul]

What were the PS5 benchmark games

 

[SlimySnake]

Whats wrong with this guy? He makes the most idiotic comparisons. Comparing DMC5 PS5 to Gears 5. Why? Buy a copy of DMC5 on Xbox and do the comparison. Conversely, do the same for Battlefield 2042. This shouldnt be that hard.

He did the same with the PS5 testing using GamerNexus test results to do his comparisons. Thats not how any of this works. One of the biggest morons on youtube.

 

[Bernkastel]

I remember when everyone was concerned about RROD 2.0

Xbox Series X running hot according to Journalists (Zero Noise, but Hot temperature )

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/journalist-says-xbox-series-x-can-get-hot-like-a-fireplace/ He said (translated by VGC): “The Series X is hot, like really hot! It doesn’t make any noise, but damn it’s hot! The console is emitting heat like crazy. It’s almost like a fireplace shaft...

www.neogaf.com

The irony about that FUD was that it was debunked by the very sources that were cited as a reference and even though I posted them in the first page the thread kept going.

 

[Loxus]

Whats wrong with this guy? He makes the most idiotic comparisons. Comparing DMC5 PS5 to Gears 5. Why? Buy a copy of DMC5 on Xbox and do the comparison. Conversely, do the same for Battlefield 2042. This shouldnt be that hard.

He did the same with the PS5 testing using GamerNexus test results to do his comparisons. Thats not how any of this works. One of the biggest morons on youtube.

I have to agree with you on this one.

 

[ParaSeoul]

Whats wrong with this guy? He makes the most idiotic comparisons. Comparing DMC5 PS5 to Gears 5. Why? Buy a copy of DMC5 on Xbox and do the comparison. Conversely, do the same for Battlefield 2042. This shouldnt be that hard.

He did the same with the PS5 testing using GamerNexus test results to do his comparisons. Thats not how any of this works. One of the biggest morons on youtube.

Everyone wants to be a tech channel without actually spending money

 

[Magic Carpet]

Love my Series X!

Makes me wonder just how much further Microsoft could have pushed clock speeds rather than just settling for double Xbox One X performance, maybe 13-14 Tflops would have been possible.

I would not mind risking a few more dB to raise those clocks.

 

[twilo99]

compared to the ps5:

- smaller dimension
- lower power consumption
- less noise

Excellent vid, enjoyed that.

Indeed, he knows his stuff. Also, the way he says ix box is really great

 

[Fredrik]

Dude in the video measured both, it's 25 db for PS5 and 15 db for XSX. Considering I can hear my XSX if I turn the TV volume to zero and concentrate a bit, it's not that surprising that people can hear the PS5 imo.

I instantly hear my PS5 when I power it on. Doesn’t sound like the coil whine I’ve had on the PC but people say that’s what it is so idk.

It’s not a problem anyhow.

For comparison, a 10dB difference is 10 times the sound energy, but it takes 3dB to actually hear a difference and in the end 25dB is like a whisper.
15dB is like breathing.
Both consoles are super quiet. My WD My Cloud external HDD is the noisest thing I have in my setup and it’s still quiet.

 

[Topher]

 

[Dr Bass]

When I had my PS5 I never heard it while playing. Maybe you could hear it if you're next to it and no sound is happening, but it was like a quiet whisper.

Both systems are fine.

Also SlimySnake is right about the comparison.

This is dumb.

 

[DarkMage619]

Think it's the combo of coil whine and/or the fan lottery that causes issues that I have read online.

This is true. My PS5 has both coil whine and a melodic fan hum. If I turn up my TV volume enough it drowns it out but it is clearly more audible than the XSX.

 

[Cherrypepsi]

that board is really a fine piece of engineering. so compact and clean.

I still wish there was a PC version of the Series X with Windows 11 on it.
I'd buy that in a heartbeat.

 

[DaGwaphics]

Then how would they be able to keep the chip cooled?
It's all a balancing act.

Definitly a more aggressive fan curve could've been used. I've yet to hear my S system even though I'm sitting right next to it, doesn't matter how long it has been running. A lot of heat output from it, but zero noise.

 

[ManaByte]

Insane engineering, my Series X on every game is far quieter than my PS5 playing PS4 games. Crazy difference.

 

[Kilau]

Sometimes I feel like I could cook over my Series X, but it's out in the open and hot exhaust isn't necessarily bad.

 

[AnotherOne]

Makes me wonder just how much further Microsoft could have pushed clock speeds rather than just settling for double Xbox One X performance, maybe 13-14 Tflops would have been possible.

Is it too late for an upclock?

 

[Werewolfgrandma]

That is interesting... I wish to have power measurement to all games.

~200W is the peak power draw for for Series X? FH5 seems to not stress the system compared with Gears 5 or Battlefield 5.

It's basically locked 60 so unless he did a stress part where fps dropped I doubt it's running 100% most of the time.

 

[ManaByte]

Is it too late for an upclock?

I will immediately put that thread on ignore.

 

[Riky]

Is it too late for an upclock?

You would think so, in interviews Jason Ronald basically said they just wanted twice Xbox One X performance. It would be interesting to know if they had any internal testing about how far the cooling system could be pushed. RDNA2 does operate at higher clocks so it must be possible.

 

[SpokkX]

10db difference is considered "Noticeable"

Yeah 10db is quite noticable. I cant hear Series X at all expect in Avengers where there is a slight very silent fan spin

i can always hear my ps5, even in ps4 games. Ps5 sounds more in dashboard that series x in games. The ps5 fan sounds more high pitched to - and this is not counting coil while (which a friends ps5 has quite bad, mine is not that bad - still can hear it too)

10db is quite a lot actually

 

[Loxus]

Definitly a more aggressive fan curve could've been used. I've yet to hear my S system even though I'm sitting right next to it, doesn't matter how long it has been running. A lot of heat output from it, but zero noise.

To achieve 13-14TF, you would have to clock the GPU around 1975-2125MHz.

Having 52CUs will not only increase power consumption but also heat output. It isn't the same as PS5 because it's 36CUs Vs 52CUs.

Just raising the fan curve isn't going to help, especially with the heat output we're seeing now