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HDTVTest - The Best TV of 2021
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Rea
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Fully deserved. Their XR chip is the most advanced image processor in 2021. Best upscaling, best motion handling, best HDR Quality and also have top notch sound quality.
Out of the box color accuracy is also great.
If someone cares about image quality and for PS5 gamers, and don't care about other extra gaming features, then Sony Tvs are the best.
Out of the box color accuracy is also great.
If someone cares about image quality and for PS5 gamers, and don't care about other extra gaming features, then Sony Tvs are the best.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
People who think it’s too big, have not used it for 2 days for real. New monitor is always weirdly big at first and then you get used to it. I hope 48” model won’t die when 42 releases. I don’t want to downgrade
sankt-Antonio
:^)--?-<
Super happy with my a90j. Since all games I played on it are next gen titles with really solid fps, I don’t even miss VRR (will come with an update). So all is good for gaming imo.
ABnormal
Member
Being primarily interested in a home cinema use, and as a secondary use for videogames, I will always go for Panasonic (in this case, for the JZ1500, which has the same professional panel and electronics of JZ2000 but without the Technichs sound system). Even Vincent's evaluation gives them the best overall image, better near-blacks, color accuracy, and HDR results. They are the absolute best when the digital source has good quality. But for a more varied viewing (for those who use the TV also for TV channels and SD sources), the upscaling and motion handling necessary is better on Sony's.
sankt-Antonio
:^)--?-<
I would not buy a TV in 2021 from a company that already proclaimed its going to stop producing TV in the future and outsourcing production of them. It screams cost cutting and that means not only hardware devision is getting cut down, maybe even firmware / software people. Means feature support and hot fixes could take a hit also, on 2021 TVs.
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Bernd Lauert
Banned
The best models are way too expensive imo. Just get a C1 and save a thousand bucks lmao.
John Wick
Member
Why is that? Because it doesn't align with your opinion?
Sony TV's are superb especially A90J and X950J. Just missing the VRR update but that should be dropping soon.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
There are some really good deals on the A80J right now... But it doesn't have VRR yet right? That's something I absolutely want (even though I mostly play well made games with solid framerates), and the promise of a future update that may or may not work as intended isn't really good enough.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Quantum tv is a shitheel who has no idea what he's doing.
dotnotbot
Member
What scares me about Panasonic, their OLEDs are so obscure now that some issues don't get proper recognition. Dolby Vision issues in TV-led mode on HZ series were never acknowledged by Panasonic (but they fixed them in JZ series), now there's some weird tearing/flickering problem on JZ series in 4k@60 HDR mode
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JZ2000 + PlayStation 5: Flicker @ 4k 60Hz HDR RGB
Good evening, While having my PlayStaion 5 connected to my Panasonic JZ2000 65'' TV I experienced a flicker in the bottom third of the display. It somewhat looks like screen tearing, yet more disturbing. This flicker will only show while operating 4k 60Hz HDR RGB. Once I use 120 Hz mode, or turn...
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ABnormal
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Even if that would be the case (and it's all speculation, for now, since it could be simply cutting costs on labor, while continuing to pursue technology development), that doesn't affect this year panels at all, being them the best out of there at this precise moment. Things MIGHT change in the coming years, but I'm purchasing the TV now, so in this moment it's possible to get the highest level they have reached.
sankt-Antonio
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There is already ramblings that some bugs aren't even acknowledge from Panasonic's side. Something LG has been super great about (released a new fix today I think) and Sony at least vaguely communicates this stuff.
With sets like these support should be its own dedicated metric. And I love Pana, been rocking a Pana Plasma for the last decade before I got the A90J.
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ABnormal
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Price is obviously a significant matter. I got the Panasonic oled 55JZ1500 for 1800 euros, which is only some hundreds more than a C1, and considering that I will probably keep it for at least ten years (I used the plasma for 15 years), a difference like that is insignificant, compared to the possibility to enjoy the marvel of an high fidelity image. It's been a long evaluation. At the moment I could not find anything better for what I'm looking for. There's no perfect TV that it's better than every other TVs on any feature. But accordingly to what you look for primarily, there are some.
GreatnessRD
Member
We will not tolerate any Chinese Harry Potter slander! You show respect to my mans, Vincent!
ABnormal
Member
After a year looking at reviews from all the possible magazines and technichans, nothing serious of that kind came out (even in stress tests), so it's either a very specific issue, or it's due to yeld problems of some units. In general, Panasonic is famous to put in their TVs only what works, and they work. And if there would be a bug, that would be easily fixed by a firmware update.
That is the unanimous result of the various analisys these TVs have had. How would I trust random users more than the complete tests of experts? There will always be users with some problem.
dotnotbot
Member
Unfortunately experts tend to overlook some obvious things. For example I'm pretty sure that Vincent was the only one among popular reviewers who noticed severe color banding in 4k@120 mode on new Sonys (now fixed/improved).
When it comes to Panasonic, they never fixed frameskipping issues on older models (it was a serious problem before GZ series), as well as TV-led Dolby Vision frameskipping on HZ series. Both of these issues were completely ignored by most reviewers (!). Vincent did mention them in his reviews, but he brushed them off as being almost impossible to notice. Well, some users were disappointed to find out that it's more serious, including me (I had 2 different Panasonic HZ OLEDs).
Is Dolby Vision best avoided on Panasonic OLEDs?
Sorry, this will be long. I hope people find it useful. A few quick points. This post isn’t about Dolby Vision IQ, which should be avoided due to undefeatable processing. This is about Panasonic’s wider DV implementation. I have a 55HZ1500 and Panasonic 820 BDP. All firmware is up to date. I’d...
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ABnormal
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Yes, sometimes daily use brings out peculiar problems that standardized tools don't reveal. One of that was the frameskipping issue, that appears to be fixed at least on 2000 and 1500.Unfortunately experts tend to overlook some obvious things. For example I'm pretty sure that Vincent was the only one among popular reviewers who noticed severe color banding in 4k@120 mode on new Sonys (now fixed/improved).
When it comes to Panasonic, they never fixed frameskipping issues on older models (it was a serious problem before GZ series), as well as TV-led Dolby Vision frameskipping on HZ series. Both of these issues were completely ignored by most reviewers (!). Vincent did mention them in his reviews, but he brushed them off as being almost impossible to notice. Well, some users were disappointed to find out that it's more serious, including me (I had 2 different Panasonic HZ OLEDs).
Is Dolby Vision best avoided on Panasonic OLEDs?
Sorry, this will be long. I hope people find it useful. A few quick points. This post isn’t about Dolby Vision IQ, which should be avoided due to undefeatable processing. This is about Panasonic’s wider DV implementation. I have a 55HZ1500 and Panasonic 820 BDP. All firmware is up to date. I’d...
The point is that it's possible that there will never be a TV that is "perfect" (and the definition depends itself by the limits of present technology, so it changes with it), but it's always possible to choose what is closest to what you look for. Then there is the point of actual real viewing, where hardly you can perceive any real small issue, and the quality of which is the result of the sum of all the features, rather than single aspects. The final overall result is what counts, after all.
Also, the only Dolby Vision setting that is off on Panasonic is DV Vivid, which is seen as an absurd by the reviewers themselves (not only because it's off, but because it alters colours like the worst Dynamic mode), who suggest to use DV Dark, which is wonderfully correct, instead. Here, for example:
Panasonic JZ1500 (TX-65JZ1500) 4K OLED TV Review
Review of the Panasonic JZ1500 (TX-65JZ1500) 4K OLED TV which offers the custom professional OLED panel found on the flagship JZ2000 model.
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Kuranghi
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Apple TV or nvidia shield is a good replacement for TVs internal apps but even then the tonemapping and detail/upscaling will usually be better on the internal apps/media player ime. My Sony ZD9 is from 2016 and the internal media player looks better than mpv and VLC tonemapping on my PC input in some ways. The sharpness and brightness is fucking insane and the picture modes are identical, maybe has something to do with now HDMI can limit max brightness?
Or its just that the DV is source-led in the TV apps on Sony's as opposed to being player-led from HDMI sources, I don't think the LG has that limitation but I think people still say DV rips are better in the internal media player on the LG than from a regular 4k player, maybe except an OPPO 203 or similar.
eastcoastkody
Member
is the LG C1 gonna go down in price anymore next week u think? Or is it what its at rn, about it
StateofMajora
Banned
Sometimes. Sometimes he's right though whilst others are shilling. I 100 percent agree with him on how much of a backstep 2021 Sony sets are, where others don't call Sony/Samsung out.
Consider him a voice of reason in terms of Sony 2021. He said the same things I found out about Sony 2021 motion and XR processing bs that I never heard from Vinny. No seriously, his x900e vs. x90j videos speak the truth, and i've seen the same drawbacks on the new sets. Everyone just parrots "Sony motion Sony motion, XR is new so it must be great" but no, not at all.
On the other hand he says crazy shit like Hisense are the lcd kings and samsung the frame is an underrated tv lol.
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StateofMajora
Banned
1300 for the 55 is it. If it goes down further in the return window, get it price adjusted.
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