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Hideki Kamiya has said he’s “totally serious” in relation to recent comments about resurrecting cancelled Xbox exclusive Scalebound.

Godot25

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SSfox

Member
I bought an Xbone for it...

Keep in mind this was when Platinum was at a high point in their development career. Seeing the ups and downs over the years, I probably wouldn't do the same thing now.

Still, if it can get funded and made, I'd definitely give it a shot.

Scalebound would been the game that make me buy Xbone, bought Wii U for Bayo 2 and i plan to get Switch with Bayo 3. But since Scalebound went vaporware then there was no more reason to me to get that console.
 

MOTM

Banned
I'd like to see the game happen, it looked more interesting/ambitious than anything else Platinum has put out.

And the world looked quite interesting too.

Wasn't the biggest fan of the MC though


Hopefully it happens in the future and sheds the Xbox one platform (as it looked like it had really low frame rate)



Low Res, but shows some more gameplay that many haven't seen before. (Village hub?)
They could turn it into a Monster Hunter type game, there seems to be a massive demand for that genre.
 

TrueLegend

Member
Seeing Kamiya begging is sad but not as sad as seeing pathetic pieces of shit here who open their asses to the likes of ubisoft's and EA mtx and who usually hide here like rats come out and talk shit about a legend like him. Graphics don't make a game. Platinum Games don't make good games, they make great games. They did Nier automata the year guerilla games did HZD and since then have released Astral Chain with metascore 88 and they are about to release Bayonetta 3 and somehow they suck. I get that most of you dumbfucks don't play on switch, well even I don't play it, but what is this one-sided hate and zero acknowledgement of success of their games on switch, and the success of switch itself.
 

The_Mike

Member
Seems a bit pathetic. Microsoft flashes some heavy money and now all of a sudden Platinum wants to be seen with them. I liked Bayo, Nier Automata and Vanquish. Even if you buy PlatinumGames you don't even get Bayonetta right, because Sega owns that.

Hmm, Sega you say...

Totally forgot about scalebound and just watched the gameplay trailer. Why did this get cancelled, it looked great.

No it really didn't.
 

demonstr8

Member
It's really quite bizarre behavior from Kamiya or someone in his position isn't it. It's a little bit pathetic to see. Is Platinum really doing that badly?
 

SSfox

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Seeing Kamiya begging is sad but not as sad as seeing pathetic pieces of shit here who open their asses to the likes of ubisoft's and EA mtx and who usually hide here like rats come out and talk shit about a legend like him. Graphics don't make a game. Platinum Games don't make good games, they make great games. They did Nier automata the year guerilla games did HZD and since then have released Astral Chain with metascore 88 and they are about to release Bayonetta 3 and somehow they suck. I get that most of you dumbfucks don't play on switch, well even I don't play it, but what is this one-sided hate and zero acknowledgement of success of their games on switch, and the success of switch itself.

While I agree with your points, but it's not reason to insult people for their liking.

Buying broken games like BF2042 is kinda dumb imo, but it's doesn't give rights to call those people "dumbfucks", you could have used better and not disrespectful words like "clowns", or "stoners"
 
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MarkMe2525

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Lots of cynicism here, maybe not unwarranted. As a creator, I can empathize with his wanting to see his vision through. As far as the claim that he just wants that Xbox money all I have to say is those two points aren't mutually exclusive. You can want the cash while also having a desire to see a creative project come to fruition.
 
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DaGwaphics

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Seeing Kamiya begging is sad but not as sad as seeing pathetic pieces of shit here who open their asses to the likes of ubisoft's and EA mtx and who usually hide here like rats come out and talk shit about a legend like him. Graphics don't make a game. Platinum Games don't make good games, they make great games. They did Nier automata the year guerilla games did HZD and since then have released Astral Chain with metascore 88 and they are about to release Bayonetta 3 and somehow they suck. I get that most of you dumbfucks don't play on switch, well even I don't play it, but what is this one-sided hate and zero acknowledgement of success of their games on switch, and the success of switch itself.

I mean... If everything this guy touches turns to gold, why is he panhandling around the interwebs? Just sayin'.
 

SenjutsuSage

Halo TV Series Promoter - Live from: Reach
They're clearly financially troubled, likely have trouble bringing in and keeping top tier talent, and are seeking to receive a major cash infusion from Xbox & Microsoft. But do people typically give money to individuals that they're aware don't like them?

Kamiya does not like nor respect Phil Spencer or Microsoft. He's only after money.
 

TrueLegend

Member
While I agree with your points, but it's not reason to insult people for their liking.

Buying broken games like BF2042 is kinda dumb imo, but it's doesn't give rights to call those people "dumbfucks", you could have used better and not disrespectful words like "clowns", or "stoners"
Fair enough, but the truth is that people take too much liberties with gifs here. They don't type the words sure, but they post the gifs which say the same thing or even worse.
 

DaGwaphics

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They're clearly financially troubled, likely have trouble bringing in and keeping top tier talent, and are seeking to receive a major cash infusion from Xbox & Microsoft. But do people typically give money to individuals that they're aware don't like them?

Kamiya does not like nor respect Phil Spencer or Microsoft. He's only after money.

I have doubts that MS would consider what this guy is after in the first place. Sounds like he wants a Bungie type deal where he is afforded some guarantee of complete independence, which is a nonsensical fools errand. MS could certainly allow creative autonomy and even allow games to be published everywhere, but ultimately studios they acquire report to Spencer (as it should be). Hines has said as much about Bethesda and MS is already talking about management changes inside Activision.
 

TrueLegend

Member
I mean... If everything this guy touches turns to gold, why is he panhandling around the interwebs? Just sayin'.
Maybe unlike every other guy who lie with their PR style language, post and public appearance, he likes to be honest. This is the sickest type of analysis that I despise....its called having a personality. Yoko Taro and Hideo Kamiya's honest trolling shouldn't be all of sudden become 'that guy is weird so he is lame and so fuck him off'. How about thinking that this guy has passionately worked on something then made a genuine mistake for which he has apologized like real apologize, Microsoft didn't acknowledge their part of failure that diligently. Now his incomplete work is sitting there and all it needs is money and people to become a complete game, why he shouldn't ask for it. Should he start lying and start incorporating mtx in their games. Their games have stunning music, style, story, and combat all they need is a graphics boost and Microsoft has teams that can provide it and even sony has those teams. The consolidation game has begun and he is just being honest and open about it, unlike bluepoint's lying about their acquisition with we will remain independent bullshit. Bluepoint got caught could have just remained silent but no when lying comes easily to you, when your lying is empowered to a systemic level then why wont you, and then there will be a culture of abuse sooner or later or witchhunt.
 

poppabk

Member
Totally forgot about scalebound and just watched the gameplay trailer. Why did this get cancelled, it looked great.
Probably because it was buggy as hell and unfinished and missing a bunch of features they had promised. I mean not on the BF2042, Cyberpunk level but by 2017 standards.
 

Astral Dog

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They not only announced it too early but showed it too early as well. It wasn't an enticing game during any of its public showings and looked like anything but a PlatinumGames title- slow, generic, and unspectacular. The poorly-showcased co-op aspect, which surely nobody was asking for in an open world adventure game, did the project no favours whatsoever.

Unfortunately we never got to see the flashy stuff which came later in development, notably the dual character combo system which was shown behind closed doors and was by all accounts very impressive.

Kamiya has never made a bad game and I don't believe for a second that he'd allow his dream project to have ended up being sub par. If they want to bring it back then give them a chance, I say.
I think the problem is the game was far too bloated/big for Platinum at the time, looked like a western open world RPG with a different kind of appeal than Platinum makes, Kamiya is a creative genius but he is not well known as a writter, Scalebound was too ambitious and it blow up in their faces. Also apparently they had problems with the engine?

They executed Nier Automata perfectly,this is something both Microsoft and Platinum should have known, or at least scaled down the project so they could finish it and be well made.

If they were to make it now they could finish it and be a good game, but PG would probably want to use their new engine
 

Astral Dog

Member
Maybe unlike every other guy who lie with their PR style language, post and public appearance, he likes to be honest. This is the sickest type of analysis that I despise....its called having a personality. Yoko Taro and Hideo Kamiya's honest trolling shouldn't be all of sudden become 'that guy is weird so he is lame and so fuck him off'. How about thinking that this guy has passionately worked on something then made a genuine mistake for which he has apologized like real apologize, Microsoft didn't acknowledge their part of failure that diligently. Now his incomplete work is sitting there and all it needs is money and people to become a complete game, why he shouldn't ask for it. Should he start lying and start incorporating mtx in their games. Their games have stunning music, style, story, and combat all they need is a graphics boost and Microsoft has teams that can provide it and even sony has those teams. The consolidation game has begun and he is just being honest and open about it, unlike bluepoint's lying about their acquisition with we will remain independent bullshit. Bluepoint got caught could have just remained silent but no when lying comes easily to you, when your lying is empowered to a systemic level then why wont you, and then there will be a culture of abuse sooner or later or witchhunt.
Yeah people are talking like Platinum are suddendly untalented or incompetent, they delivered Nier Automata to Square, delivered Astral Chain to Nintendo. give them the right design and they will do wonders.

edit: man why would anybody want Microsoft to acquire Platinum i have no idea 🤢 as much 'freedom' as they would give them no chance they gonna let them make sequels to their more beloved niche titles.
Right now 100% sure Square Enix wants them for Nier 3,even if Babylon 'falls' , they won't let them go anywhere,as they already planning the sequels, and 100% sure Nintendo would make Astral Chain 2, well recieved by critics and pretty sucessful for their system, Bayonetta 4 not sure,since that depends on how 3 does with critics and fans, but its not impossible, its a maybe, they would have plenty to do even if big Xbox moneybag ignores them
 
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KungFucius

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What is happening at platinum. It’s rough seeing this stuff. I hope Bayo 3 is amazing

Not to pick on just you, but why are so many people acting like this is some horrible act of desperation? They worked on a project where mistakes were made and management chose to cancel it rather than give them the chance to fix it. All he is saying is that he would like the opportunity to go back to it with a clean head and do it right. I have had several projects or development paths abandoned due to someone other than me and some of them I believed in strongly enough that I would definitely revisit if given the funding. That is not desperation that is just a desire for creative satisfaction.

For all we know there are a few gameplay elements and assets he would like to be able to reuse in a redefined project and develop a product from more efficiently than from scratch. But sure this is desperation and decline and pathetic and lame, and a bunch of useless insults because internet.
 

DenchDeckard

Gold Member
Not to pick on just you, but why are so many people acting like this is some horrible act of desperation? They worked on a project where mistakes were made and management chose to cancel it rather than give them the chance to fix it. All he is saying is that he would like the opportunity to go back to it with a clean head and do it right. I have had several projects or development paths abandoned due to someone other than me and some of them I believed in strongly enough that I would definitely revisit if given the funding. That is not desperation that is just a desire for creative satisfaction.

For all we know there are a few gameplay elements and assets he would like to be able to reuse in a redefined project and develop a product from more efficiently than from scratch. But sure this is desperation and decline and pathetic and lame, and a bunch of useless insults because internet.

yeah, Artists will often have an open mind to look at failed projects with some form of "what if" mentality. I'm sure it is just that. I just feel like Platinum have been quiet over the last few years and I hope they are doing ok, as I have really loved some of their games.
 

DaGwaphics

Member
Maybe unlike every other guy who lie with their PR style language, post and public appearance, he likes to be honest. This is the sickest type of analysis that I despise....its called having a personality. Yoko Taro and Hideo Kamiya's honest trolling shouldn't be all of sudden become 'that guy is weird so he is lame and so fuck him off'. How about thinking that this guy has passionately worked on something then made a genuine mistake for which he has apologized like real apologize, Microsoft didn't acknowledge their part of failure that diligently. Now his incomplete work is sitting there and all it needs is money and people to become a complete game, why he shouldn't ask for it. Should he start lying and start incorporating mtx in their games. Their games have stunning music, style, story, and combat all they need is a graphics boost and Microsoft has teams that can provide it and even sony has those teams. The consolidation game has begun and he is just being honest and open about it, unlike bluepoint's lying about their acquisition with we will remain independent bullshit. Bluepoint got caught could have just remained silent but no when lying comes easily to you, when your lying is empowered to a systemic level then why wont you, and then there will be a culture of abuse sooner or later or witchhunt.

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