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Horizon Forbidden West Graphics Comparison: PS4 vs. PS5
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The difference between PS5 resolution mode and PS4 Pro is indeed pretty stark. It's immediately obvious, really. Yeah, obviously it's the same base game, so there is a strong resemblance, but the versions aren't really close beyond a superficial level.
It's similar to something like Doom on the Switch vs the PS4.
ethomaz
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It not close at all.
ethomaz
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DF said the opposite and you can see in the videos.
StateofMajora
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It is though. Sure I wouldn’t want to play it on base ps4 (or at all
) but aside from resolution and fps it’s not that different.Closer than some ps3 to ps4 cross gen stuff.
ethomaz
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IMO 4k30fps mode is the biggest jump from PS4 Pro to PS5 I saw this gen for a cross-gen game.It is though. Sure I wouldn’t want to play it on base ps4 (or at all
Closer than some ps3 to ps4 cross gen stuff.
StateofMajora
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There’s been a number of unstable 1080p60 games on ps4 pro that are locked 4k60 on ps5 so I don’t agree.
If you go from ps4 pro to ps5 performance mode you basically get same image quality on horizon. Which is no different from like days gone ps5 patch although yes I know horizon has more graphics improvements than days gone patch.
Speaking of days gone it still looks damn nice!
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kyliethicc
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While the team was conscious of making things work for the PS4 throughout the game’s development, they also were painstaking about having the PS5 version stand out visually. “We’d look at screenshots for every single thing on-screen, whether it was the grass, the sky, the leaves, the cloth, the hair – everything should have something where if you look at the screenshots, you'd feel like this is definitely the PS5 version,” van der Leeuw said.
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The end result is a game so quick that the development team had to revamp the tips that appear on loading screens. “In Horizon Zero Dawn, we called it fast travel, but it could take maybe a minute to actually load,” de Jonge said. “With the PS5, it’s maybe four or five seconds, it loads so quickly that players can’t even read the hints.” But from testing, Guerrilla knew that players came to rely on these hints, so they decided to slow things down just a bit. “We had to add a very simple feature where it hangs on the loading screen for enough time so you can actually read at least one hint while it loads.” Of course, people who want to speed through things can just mash X or turn off the pause in settings so that the game loads up as fast as possible.
www.engadget.com
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The end result is a game so quick that the development team had to revamp the tips that appear on loading screens. “In Horizon Zero Dawn, we called it fast travel, but it could take maybe a minute to actually load,” de Jonge said. “With the PS5, it’s maybe four or five seconds, it loads so quickly that players can’t even read the hints.” But from testing, Guerrilla knew that players came to rely on these hints, so they decided to slow things down just a bit. “We had to add a very simple feature where it hangs on the loading screen for enough time so you can actually read at least one hint while it loads.” Of course, people who want to speed through things can just mash X or turn off the pause in settings so that the game loads up as fast as possible.
Guerrilla Games explains why 'Horizon Forbidden West' works well on the PS4 | Engadget
Guerrilla Games set itself up with an unusual challenge when developing Horizon Forbidden West, which comes out on Friday, February 18th.
www.engadget.com
Pilgrimzero
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Looks mostly the same.
"But look this small thing in the distance is clearer on the PS5! And look how the light shines different on the belt buckle!"
...wow. Super important stuff.
"But look this small thing in the distance is clearer on the PS5! And look how the light shines different on the belt buckle!"
...wow. Super important stuff.
kikonawa
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Probably xbox ownersPeople actually upset that one the best if not the best looking game in 2022 is playable on PS4...
Kenpachii
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DJ12
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ethomaz
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Looks like two different games... what are you talking about?
Slothbeing1209
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Yoboman
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I think its exciting we still have so much room to grow personally. The game looks phenomenal but is clearly not fully detached from last gen roots. There will be some insane games coming throughout the genCalled it lol
At least hero lighting is good.
Kokoloko85
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Id like to see it too. I still find it weird its taken them 5 years to make a sequel when they already had the engine
mckmas8808
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Other than the lower res textures all over the place, flatter lighting, volumetrics, geometry, and less vegetation.Zero Dawn on PC running at 4k Ultra. Can't distinguish it from Forbidden West.
rofif
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as I was scrolling down and noticed this screenshots, I thought to myself... "oh well, so forbidden west does actually look kinda last gen like zero dawn did". And then you say it's zero dawn.Zero Dawn on PC running at 4k Ultra. Can't distinguish it from Forbidden West.
James Sawyer Ford
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Called it lol
At least hero lighting is good.
Called what?
Watch the video…huge difference
To be honest I was wrong.
Watching it on a mobile phone - looks exactly the same.
Watching on a 4K TV - clear differences.
It really does look fantastic.
Only worth playing in performance mode however. Looks slightly softer but 60fps is more important.
assurdum
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What they achieved on PS4 is still phenomenal. People said they are the same but it's not because it's crossgen but more thanks to Guerrilla who has peaked the impossible, such graphic on PS4 is not common especially so late in his lifespan. Though the differences with the ps5 version are not subtle.
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SlimySnake
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That it would basically be like Forza Horizon 5 where we all thought that it would be severely downgraded on the base xbox one, but it turned out to be a PC low vs max situation. If you recall, we had discussed how they would ever get the PS4 to render that massive upgrade in Aloy's character model. How the waves and water looked next gen. We all said that has to be a PS4 specific feature. Well, it turns out they found some secret sauce in the PS4 and basically got all the features to run on the base PS4 and simply upgraded some settings on the PS5. Same as pretty much every PC game when you go from low to max settings.
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James Sawyer Ford
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Sega Orphan
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What GG has done with a 1.84tflop console, with a weak CPU is quite amazing.
01011001
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jesus, they really had to squeeze every last bit of performance out of the PS4... applying VRS to all the plants + dynamic res
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Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
Pop in looks so bad, even on PS5 going by these videos. Who really thinks it's good to change lod levels/add objects relatively close to the players as they move? I'd prefer lower overall detail if it loaded in way in the distance instead. We see this a lot since Crysis and it sucks, even on PC detail options never do enough or at least offer the ability to just disable all the obvious clutter objects altogether and avoid having the world constatly pop as it gets gradually populated with them, leaving lod levels just for terrain, characters and big structures where it's less noticable/more distant 
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ResetEraVetVIP
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Lol wut?
01011001
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same. I hate this trend of brute-forcing super high detail models just to have them on screen if you basically touch them, and then switching them out super visibly if you go 3 steps back.
lower detail + less pop-in > higher detail + more pop-in
Translation: the PS5 version is like running the game on high, while the PS4 version is like running the game on a mix of Low and Medium
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ResetEraVetVIP
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I Disagree…its not that bad.
Sega Orphan
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I'm going off a little half cooked here, so might not have everything correct, but with the Sampler Feedback Streaming on the XSX and XSS they were saying it would load in low lod textures at a distance and then replace them with higher ones as you got closer to that area? I know this isn't a PS5 thing, but just looking at it from fixing pop in even on the XSX.
I am really miffed about why the lod pop in is still like it is.
01011001
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SFS is more a RAM saving tech and not meant to improve pop-in
when using SFS it only loads the parts of the textures needed, as in if you only see half the texture it will only load in that half you are seeing. if you see an object from a steep angle and the far end is so far away that you don't need the highest detail version of the texture, it can granularly load in high and low res parts of the texture as needed for the perspective you see it from.
this will improve load times and RAM usage.
things like Nanite will be what will help with pop-in issues.
many engine developers will most likely implement similar technology into their engines going forward
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Sega Orphan
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So what's the bottleneck that is causing pop in then? Again, I will reference PS5 as it has a raw speed advantage over the XSX, but the PS5 SSD has the speed to well and truly keep the RAM full of the needed textures etc. So the next step is the RAM speed and the power of the GPU to draw it on the screen. The XSX might require more engine work than the PS5 to get their Max speed, but with the PS5 it is hardware 100%, so it shouldn't need a heap of work on the engine side of things. As far as I know faster RAM.doesnt need engine changes compared to slower RAM.
With SFS, won't that take the load off the RAM and GPU and elevate pop in? As far as I know no body has utilised SFS yet in a game, so we can't judge its performance.
sendit
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Agreed. Buzzwords like SFS really innovate the graphical paradigm as a whole and will allow gamers to reach the pinnacle of expressive freedom.
BacklashWave534
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Master troll or in desperate need of an eye exam.
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Arioco
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I really hope so. It's high time we got rid of pop-in. We've been suffering from that annoying issue since the very beginning of 3D videogames. And yep, UE5 looks like a huge leap forward, so I hope others devs will follow that path. Last gen we pretty much said good bye to aliasing thanks to new AA methods like TAA combined with the increased resolution. Will we say good bye to pop-in this one?
Aaron Olive
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01011001
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I really hope so. It's high time we got rid of pop-in. We've been suffering from that annoying issue since the very beginning of 3D videogames. And yep, UE5 looks like a huge leap forward, so I hope others devs will follow that path. Last gen we pretty much said good bye to aliasing thanks to new AA methods like TAA combined with the increased resolution. Will we say good bye to pop-in this one?
funny thing you should say that in a thread about Horizon... I just started the game and the aliasing is brutal...
this seems like it's oversharpened like crazy! the checkerboard rendering in performance mode doesn't help the matter either of course, but still, this shouldn't alias this hard
the checkerboarding in general doesn't look good... it's among the weakest implementations I've seen tbh.
maybe the should have just used native 1440p instead
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Arioco
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funny thing you should say that in a thread about Horizon... I just started the game and the aliasing is brutal...
this seems like it's oversharpened like crazy! the checkerboard rendering in performance mode doesn't help the matter either of course, but still, this shouldn't alias this hard
the checkerboarding in general doesn't look good... it's among the weakest implementations I've seen tbh.
maybe the should have just used native 1440p instead
I'm a bit surprise to hear you say that. I haven't had the chance to play the game but you find it too jaggy even in 4K mode? That's weird, the first Horizon was one of the cleanest open world games I'd ever played when it launched. And I know Forbidden West doesn't use TAA, but neither did the first Horizon.
Maybe a side effect caused by a way too aggressive sharpening filter, as you mention?
I say I find it weird because in 4K a game shouldn't need any kind of sharpening at all, it should be crisp enough.