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[NightmareFarm]

Like literally every modern arena shooter and most roguelike I look up has these archaic pixel art graphics. I literally can't find any modern arena FPS shooter games other than modern doom, shadow warrior 3 and splitgate which aren't pixelated. It wouldn't hurt to make a boomer shooter with at least PS2 level graphics akin to Quake 3. I get that it's done to cut costs and time but there are plenty of indie games with at least decent graphics like Ghostrunner or Rogue Legacy 2 so that's no excuse. It's just laziness which sells because of 90s kids who are nostalgic over their blocky childhood games. We live in 2023 not 1996 dammit. We need to be moving forward not being stuck in the past. If I wanted blocky 90s graphics I would play SNES and N64 games.

 

[AMSCD]

Can you post an example picture? I don't understand what you are talking about.

 

[NightmareFarm]

Can you post an example picture? I don't understand what you are talking about.

Look up a list of arena FPS games to play on google and click on one of the articles. You'll see dozens of examples.

https://gg.deals/blog/best-boomer-shooters-to-playif-you-like-retro-fps-and-doom/

 

[Mr Moose]

I haven't bought Octopath Traveler II because of the pixel-cack graphics.

 

[NightmareFarm]

I haven't bought Octopath Traveler II because of the pixel-cack graphics.

Same. It's a top down game, it's not that hard for them to implement modern graphics.

 

[Deerock71]

I haven't bought Octopath Traveler II because of the pixel-cack graphics.

 

[R6Rider]

I don't mind it on smaller screens, but playing pixel graphic games on a TV (55 inch in my case) it looks terrible.

Want to get the Switch version of the FF collection for that reason.

 

[Spukc]

wrong

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[SlimeGooGoo]

Are you me?

 

[Gaiff]

wrong​

Metal Slug is magnificent.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Same. It's a top down game, it's not that hard for them to implement modern graphics.

What are modern graphics? Realism?

 

[nani17]

 

[VN1X]

Threads like these always make me realise I'm not actually entitled, cynical and jaded. Thanks!

 

[Spukc]

Canvas Cycle: True 8-bit Color Cycling with HTML5

this is a cool color cycle trick demo website.. if you want to see how people push it.

Makes me sad this art is forgotten by many.
Limitation often pushed people to get the most out of the tools they have.
Look at the 3d gba games

 

[Nautilus]

I love them

 

[AV]

I literally can't find any modern arena FPS shooter games

We live in 2023 not 1996 dammit. We need to be moving forward not being stuck in the past.

 

[Edgelord79]

 

[DryvBy]

Can you post an example picture? I don't understand what you are talking about.

People using the Duke engine from 96. That's a current trend. I'm fine with a few but we should have some really good looking games that take advantage of tech. Shooters used to be tech games for me.

 

[NightmareFarm]

What are modern graphics? Realism?

No. I hate realism too.

Think more along the lines of Shadow Warrior 3.

 

[STARSBarry]

Like literally every modern arena shooter and most roguelike I look up has these archaic pixel art graphics. I literally can't find any modern arena FPS shooter games other than modern doom, shadow warrior 3 and splitgate which aren't pixelated. It wouldn't hurt to make a boomer shooter with at least PS2 level graphics akin to Quake 3. I get that it's done to cut costs and time but there are plenty of indie games with great graphics like Ghostrunner or Rogue Legacy 2 so that's no excuse. It's just laziness which sells because of 90s kids who are nostalgic over their blocky childhood games. We live in 2023 not 1996 dammit. We need to be moving forward not being stuck in the past. If I wanted blocky 90s graphics I would play SNES and N64 games.

I mean if you want to miss out of some of the greatest titles released this decade because you want all games to supply the graphic level of multi hundred million pound projects with over 200 staff members, that's fine.

For everyone else though you can play...



And enjoy it because of the crisp responsive controls, massive amounts of content and excellent music and art design...

Oh but it's pixalated because a small team made it on a indiegogo budget of 90,000 euros sorry...

 

[NightmareFarm]

I mean if you want to miss out of some of the greatest titles released this decade because you want all games to supply the graphic level of multi hundred million pound projects with over 200 staff members, that's fine.

For everyone else though you can play...



And enjoy it because of the crisp responsive controls, massive amounts of content and excellent music and art design...

Oh but it's pixalated because a small team made it on a indiegogo budget of 90,000 euros sorry...

What about indie games like Rogue Legacy 2 or Hades then? Which are indie games but have decent graphics. Heck the indie games which put some effort into the visuals department usually look even better than most AAA games if you ask me.

 

[Danjin44]

I haven't bought Octopath Traveler II because of the pixel-cack graphics.

Same. It's a top down game, it's not that hard for them to implement modern graphics.

Thats your loss because Octopath 2 is one the best games I played this year and honestly I find its visuals absolutely gorgeous!

 

[K2D]

OP would love Ion Fury then

 

[Mr Moose]

Thats your loss because Octopath 2 is one the best games I played this and honestly I find its visuals absolutely gorgeous!

I know, I hear its a great game, but I just find the pixely characters crappy. Same with:

FINAL FANTASY PIXEL REMASTER

FINAL FANTASY I to VI come to life once more, in the ultimate 2D pixel remaster.

finalfantasypixelremaster.square-enix-games.com

 

[Danjin44]

I know, I hear its a great game, but I just find the pixely characters crappy. Same with:

FINAL FANTASY PIXEL REMASTER

FINAL FANTASY I to VI come to life once more, in the ultimate 2D pixel remaster.

finalfantasypixelremaster.square-enix-games.com

 

[Holammer]

This stock image needs a little extra work to convey my opinion more effectively.

 

[STARSBarry]

What about indie games like Rogue Legacy 2 or Hades then? Which are indie games but have decent graphics. Heck the indie games which put some effort into the visuals department usually look even better than most AAA games if you ask me.

Hades have not announced their budget, but considering the studio is based in San Francisco one of the most expensive cities to be in and this is hardly their first rodeo I suspect its going to be substantially more than 100,000 - 200,000 dollariedoo's, millions most likely. There in a city you operate out of if you can afford to pay the highest prices for the best talent.

Rouge Legacy 2 was developed on a shoe string though... I assume they sold their soul to Satan and practice blood magic to get a game that good looking for the price they did... its definitly an exception.

 

[SlimeGooGoo]

No. I hate realism too.

Think more along the lines of Shadow Warrior 3.

Could have used Tales of Vesperia as an example

 

[AV]

What about indie games like Rogue Legacy 2 or Hades then? Which are indie games but have decent graphics. Heck the indie games which put some effort into the visuals department usually look even better than most AAA games if you ask me.

I love Rogue Legacy 2 but the graphics are lower effort than half the pixel stuff out there. Looks like a nice mobile game. If I hadn't played it because of that, though, I'd be missing out.

 

[AJUMP23]

I dig pixel art.

 

[GHG]

I don't mind it on smaller screens, but playing pixel graphic games on a TV (55 inch in my case) it looks terrible.

Want to get the Switch version of the FF collection for that reason.

Yep, this is me 100% as well.

If a game has pixel art graphics it 100% means I'm playing it on the steam deck.

 

[Calverz]

Canvas Cycle: True 8-bit Color Cycling with HTML5

this is a cool color cycle trick demo website.. if you want to see how people push it.

Makes me sad this art is forgotten by many.
Limitation often pushed people to get the most out of the tools they have.
Look at the 3d gba games

Wow that site is absolutely awesome. Thanks for sharing

 

[NightmareFarm]

Hades have not announced their budget, but considering the studio is based in San Francisco one of the most expensive cities to be in and this is hardly their first rodeo I suspect its going to be substantially more than 100,000 - 200,000 dollariedoo's, millions most likely.

Rouge Legacy 2 was developed on a shoe string though... I assume they sold their soul to Satan to get a game that good looking for the price they did...

Rogue Legacy 2, Ghostrunner, Aragami, Splitgate(made as a college project), etc

 

[SlimeGooGoo]

Oh nooo, you need baziliions of dollars to make good graphics!

 

[The Cockatrice]

who cares as long the games are good.

 

[NightmareFarm]

I love Rogue Legacy 2 but the graphics are lower effort than half the pixel stuff out there. Looks like a nice mobile game. If I hadn't played it because of that, though, I'd be missing out.

Low effort but the graphics still look amazing.

 

[NightmareFarm]

Could have used Tales of Vesperia as an example

Not an indie game, the studio is bamco. In fact that was Tales of series highest budgeted game.

And yes I think it looks and plays great. One of my favourite JRPGs.

 

[yurinka]

Like literally every modern arena shooter and most roguelike I look up has these archaic pixel art graphics. I literally can't find any modern arena FPS shooter games other than modern doom, shadow warrior 3 and splitgate which aren't pixelated. It wouldn't hurt to make a boomer shooter with at least PS2 level graphics akin to Quake 3. I get that it's done to cut costs and time but there are plenty of indie games with great graphics like Ghostrunner or Rogue Legacy 2 so that's no excuse. It's just laziness which sells because of 90s kids who are nostalgic over their blocky childhood games. We live in 2023 not 1996 dammit. We need to be moving forward not being stuck in the past. If I wanted blocky 90s graphics I would play SNES and N64 games.

don't worry, it only means you have bad taste

 

[NightmareFarm]

Oh nooo, you need baziliions of dollars to make good graphics!

Exactly.

 

[NightmareFarm]

don't worry, it only means you have bad taste

How?

 

[Torrent of Pork]

Philistines ITT.

 

[Captain Toad]

I get that it's done to cut costs and time

This just isn't true. Pixel graphics are more difficult, expensive and time-consuming than the mobile-style indie graphics games.

But they also look significantly better, imo.

 

[NightmareFarm]

Philistines ITT.

Philistines: a person who is guided by materialism and is usually disdainful of intellectual or artistic values

Wanting graphics to devolve several generations for no reason is intellectual now??? And video games are not materialistic products consumed primarily for simple entertainment as well?

 

[STARSBarry]

Rogue Legacy 2, Ghostrunner, Aragami, Splitgate(made as a college project), etc

So essentially just make games in Unreal or Unity...

You can certainly tell which games where made in Unreal from the ones listed as they have that engine 4 look.

 

[Mossybrew]

Yeah OP I hear ya, I have zero interest in games with retro graphics. I lived through those days and played those games decades ago, I have no desire to live in the past.

 

[Husky]

I wish we were still getting a few Pokemon games with pixel sprites and 3D environments. DS-era Pokemon was the best.
X&Y looked really cute, so full 3D is fine, but I want my pixel Pokemon too

Pokemon with Octopath Traveler's visuals. I want that. I want it bad.

 

[dulleyes]

Lmao to hell with this thread.

Reading OP's comments and replies just showcase how much of an entitled picky prick they are.

Pixel art? Ew.

Realistic graphics? Also ew.

Go make your own game OP, if you're that picky and somehow can't find a game that suits your taste when thousands of games with a large variety of art styles exist on literally everything ranging from consoles, PC, to even mobile games.

 

[Portugeezer]

Bow down to BAFTA GOTY:

I don't mind it on smaller screens, but playing pixel graphic games on a TV (55 inch in my case) it looks terrible.

Want to get the Switch version of the FF collection for that reason.

It depends on the size of the pixels.

I enjoy nice crispy pixel art.

 

[64bitmodels]

This just isn't true. Pixel graphics are more difficult, expensive and time-consuming than the mobile-style indie graphics games.

But they also look significantly better, imo.

there's a reason why mobile games use 2.5d or tweening for 2d games, its less time consuming than elaborate well animated pixel art. at most you'll get 8 bit monochrome pixel art or simple pixel art with few colors.

Hand done anything is not very easy or cheap.

 

[lukilladog]

Id be interested in pixel art games that support 4:3 aspect ratios and 240p, to play on my crt's. If I am gonna go melancholic, I'd prefer the full experience.