Right and that's what the OP should do while we dream of a Zelda that plays like Elden Ring.
I main what we get(darker style) with Elden Ring but I also like what Zelda offers.People say they want less dark games because most games coming out are mature.......
You want an open world game that is mature? Take your pick. You want one that is All Ages or even Teen? Slim selection.
People say they want less dark games because most games coming out are mature.......
You want an open world game that is mature? Take your pick. You want one that is All Ages or even Teen? Slim selection.
You need to tone down your anger and condecending attitude… I find no interest in having a conversation with you when you’re reading through my posts and still completely miss my point and think I’m obsessed about beating off to furries just by mentioning Ratchet & Clank as an example of a great AAA game I can actually play in the living room. If that’s what you got from my posts then I don’t know what to say. I don’t think I’m that bad at english.I hate that I can only watch Breaking Bad and The Wire when the family is sleeping...why can't they make it furry for fuck sakes? /s
You want more sesame street and Elmo...
Nah, only a small handful have been able to even do that well, most are light hearted fucking CW shows, with Fox kids level of violence. The fact that you don't have most games with limbs being ripped off from gun violence shows just how detached games generally are from reality, that isn't some fucking standard feature sir, that is a small amount of games that do that and others that don't, literally still have the M rating...
Yea...so I think you confused the world for the demographic adults, with the porn theme of "adult". That simply means someone wants their games to have a mature theme like Mad Men, Breaking Bad, Ozarks, The Wire, House Of Cards etc, not a fucking porn video to beat off too. So I don't see any of those games as taking away "sex appeal", I see them as depicting the world the way it actually is, ie not a fucking runway model shoot.
Probably adults who are not playing happy-go-lucky Furry Friends games lol
I mean come on who is Breaking Bad really for? It's like people just obsessed with staring at drugs right? Lol
The biggest issue with this weird dumbass mindset by the way is it tries to argue that there's some fear of a hot person when in reality there are people who simply want a realistic game and not something that looks like some CW Show or Maxim models or something weird like that so it's not like I'm watching the Ozarks wanting the character that plays Wendy to look like a hot runway model she looks the way I would believe someone's wife would look in that situation.... so believe it or not there's some form of believability that gets taken out of a work when every person is looking like some runway model lol
That's not saying someone's going to scream and run away from a hot person as it sounds like a very slow minded assumption.... that's like me trying to say you wanting to play Furry Friends games with Ratchet & Clank it sounds like someone who screams and runs away from humans to jerk off over furries
It would be like me saying who actually are they making those games for? Pedophiles? That's probably who's playing Ratchet & Clank.... /s lol It tries for force this idea that their difference of an opinion is now a fear, phobias etc.
so I'm not sure how you came to that fucking conclusion and it makes more sense simply to argue that someone has a different opinion than you regarding some of those works instead of trying to question if someone having a different opinion exist. To even suggest someone must have this morbid obsession with death cause they want adult themed games is like saying you have a perverse obsession with furries and kids....
Back in the '80s the medium was more so geared towards children in the first place which is probably why you're in that furry mindset lol
None of that makes sense because the thing you're arguing for is completely subjective for all we know you fucking attracted to furry things in your idea of "Attractive people" are furries and you're demanding more games have that fetish lol Or you like BBWs and are like "where are all the 600LB attractive people I be seeing on 600LB life?, how come they not in games? probably cuz they scared of da sexy appealz"
But I couldn't play the last of us 2 in regards to its violence in my living room in front of my kids anymore than I could watch the Ozarks or Breaking Bad or The Wire or House Of Cards etc...
So your entire argument is simply based on the content you want to play in front of your kids or not so if you want to play e-rated or teen rated games you're free to do that but I don't see any weird reason to pretend someone wanting to play something else doesn't exist because it would be equivalent to you trying to fucking question all media that's not Disney.... what you fucking like is a personal view, its not some law or such a norm, that anything else needs to be questioned. I play most of what you listed btw. I however don't pretend it must be furry vs realism TO THE DEATH lol
Some kid is not going to fucking care and in my opinion we've reached the level of quality in games where you could have AA or AAA kids game and I don't know if that kid's fucking noticing or caring. Look at Minecraft look at fortnite the biggest games for kids also happens to be of the ugliest quality graphically in the first place those kids don't fucking care they'll have fun playing those Lego games and could give two shits about some deep realism with Ray tracing reflective lighting or some crap lol
How is mashing R1/R2 the entire game with a retarded character better than all the weapons+bow+runes of an agile Link in BOTW?I'd love a cartoony elden ring game. Well get one for sure with the popularity of elden ring.
No. Worse combat, enemies, level design, exploration. Better elf tho.
That says more about you level of skill if thats all you were doing. Elden ring has melee weapons that perform differenly, bows as well, magic and weapon ashes. if you religate it to buttom mashing thats on you. The combat is designed to be mixed up very well and gives you more options. Funny enough outside of the physics system in BOTW elden ring has far, and i mean far more combat options and unique weapons than BOTW.How is mashing R1/R2 the entire game with a retarded character better than all the weapons+bow+runes of an agile Link in BOTW?
We still mash R1/R2 with every different weapon, bow or magic. On BOTW we use melee weapons+bow+runes all "at the same time" as "combos".That says more about you level of skill if thats all you were doing. Elden ring has melee weapons that perform differenly, bows as well, magic and weapon ashes. if you religate it to buttom mashing thats on you. The combat is designed to be mixed up very well and gives you more options. Funny enough outside of the physics system in BOTW elden ring has far, and i mean far more combat options and unique weapons than BOTW.
nd think I’m obsessed about beating off to furries just by mentioning Ratchet & Clank
happy and starts taking photos when they see someone die?
If that’s what you got from my posts then I don’t know what to say
And that such a big percentage of big budget games put you in a role of a person that for whatever reasons ends with that you go around killing people.
You’re using TV shows as an example. I don’t watch TV shows during the da
ok...but that isn't a problem of the industries. Its job isn't to censor itself to be easy on your kids though, its your job to show values and expose them to what you want them to see or not.I usually can’t play AAA games because of how the industry is.
I 100% think it’s the industry’s problem that more AAA games are too violent and detailed and gory to play in a family living room than they used to be.ok...but that isn't a problem of the industries. Its job isn't to censor itself to be easy on your kids though, its your job to show values and expose them to what you want them to see or not.
Not the gaming industry.
They have no ode to make their content all G and PG so you can play in front of them. It makes much more sense to pick what you want to play vs argue the industry to be Disney and rated G. It sucks, but its a you issue. Its not their job to remove all hurtful things in their content in case you might play in front of your kids, not sure why that would be up to the gaming industry to regulate or something. We have room for E, Teen, Mature etc.
I 100% think it’s the industry’s problem that more AAA games are too violent and detailed and gory to play in a family living room than they used to be.
I’ve seen the change slowly happen over 40 years, I’m not making this up. That most gamers are desentizised enough on gaming violence to not even care doesn’t make it less of a problem.
I don’t see why this is my problem
How is it not the industry’s problem that I feel like I have to lock myself up in a dedicated gaming room now to keep playing the best games?
Let’s just agree to disagree on this, neither of us will back down.But their job is to be as entertaining as they can, not as family friendly as they can. That would be your job based on what you want for your family.
Yet that simply can't be the job of the industry to cast morals and values. As the industry changed, it opened up to more genres, more age groups etc. Same thing occurred with film, from being informative and educational, to having all sorts of options for violence in R rated films to Porn, but clearly those informative and educational films and programs still exist just like family friendly games still exist.
Cause the industries job is to sell, sell, sell, its not to instill morals or values or anything of the sort. No industry can make their content fit 100% of all families, its just impossible as I can't tell you what is good for your family Fredrik, only you can. You can have a mormon family question why a game has a person drinking tea, coffee, kissing a women that they are not married to etc Sir..it would be like saying the industry is at fault for all that.
What fucking game can they make using this weird logic? So they can't really make some game that fits all values or morals or something, someone will be triggered, upset, mad etc. Thus, it makes more sense for you, the consumer...to pick what you believe is good for your family to play based on your values. That simply can't be up to the industry.
How you feel is up to you and they have no ode to censor their content just so you can play in front of kids. That 100% sounds like a you problem, how you run your household is your business Fredrik, not the gaming industries. I don't know how they'd be in charge of that or responsible or make content based on everyone's values when that isn't even a thing that is 1 thing. What you think is ok and suitable, trust me....someone is upset on some shit. Final Fantasy 4 was banned by some churches based on their views and parents told to not buy it. You might think nothing is wrong with FFIV and demand more of the industry to make such a game, that same family would have word with you lol They'd argue its the industries problem =)
No games can be made using this logic btw. All I can say is for you to make your own game or to pick out games based on your own values. Maybe someone can make a value option, like select this for no blood, gore, sex or select this if you are of this faith and no women will speak, have sex lol If you design it Fredrik, I'd support it and even argue on its behalf if you can make it fit some game concept lol
Let’s just agree to disagree on this, neither of us will back down.
Anyhow I’ll keep hoping we see more light hearted AAA Insomniac games, that’s all I want really, still fun to play for me, no problem for the family, and still AAA.
I used to hope that ND goes back to Jak and Daxter too but I fear that Niel will pour his twisted dark mind into the IP somehow, probably better to leave Jak alone.
Amy Hennig was lead writer for Uncharted. Druckmann was co-writer and actually wanted to kill Elena, showing glimpses of his dark mind he later unleashed in TLOU throughout both games. Luckily Straley convinced him Elena was worth keeping alive.I think you see more light hearted titles then dark in the industry as a whole.
As in Insomniac made Ratchet and Clank and Spiderman. You'll get those types of games from them.
ND made The Last Of Us sure, they also make Uncharted, a Indiana jones light hearted type adventure. As much as I'm a fan of The Last Of Us IP, its not a common theme or tone in gaming, its one of a very small few of titles that have come out. So if you don't see Uncharted turning into any of that, its clear that was for The Last Of Us and not some copy and paste policy at Sony or ND or something. Neil has worked on the story of all 3 of those IP before, so clearly if all 3 are not all the same....maybe he isn't just applying some same logic to all things as you can't just ignorantly assume that.
The Last Of Us is as dark as Neil wanted it to be based on what he wrote it for, not based on some idea that its the only thing he wants or writes and everything will be like that etc. Would be like making it sound like if you wrote a game all if it would be Ratchet and Clank lol If you made Jak and Sony gave you the contract, how would you like it if someone said you better leave Jak alone to not turn it into Ratchet and Clank? lol I'm sure Neil has a mind of his own and applies those themes and tones based on if he feels it fits the theme, IP, genre etc, just like you or I might. I simply thing its a strange assumption to try to force this idea that all they do is 1 thing or something lol
Amy Hennig was lead writer for Uncharted. Druckmann was co-writer and actually wanted to kill Elena, showing glimpses of his dark mind he later unleashed in TLOU throughout both games. Luckily Straley convinced him Elena was worth keeping alive.
I tried to google and couldn’t actually find any examples of him writing light hearted stories? Unless you’re thinking about his co-writer work?but he still wrote other games....
So this mindset of thinking he just wanted 1 thing or contributed one idea that was shot down, thus 100% of his ideas is about "dark mind" is as stupid as saying you like furries and are some pedo or something. People die in the Uncharted series, people die in many IP, to then pretend the suggestion is an obsession or part of something more is as silly as assuming you must be some predator based on your like of Ratchet and Clank. It tries to force this absolute like at all times thats the only thing the seek with no fucking evidence to argue such a thing.
It just sounds like a narrowminded view based on cherry picking 1 thing. I doubt he just had 1 idea to just kill and just did nothing for years writing or something. What about the games he wrote or worked on where such things didn't happen? Why dismiss that, but cherry pick this 1 thing?
I tried to google and couldn’t actually find any examples of him writing light hearted stories? Unless you’re thinking about his co-writer work?
And I guess there is a possibility that Neil is the one bringing all the light hearted stuff into Uncharted.
And I see that he has written comics too, didn’t know this, maybe they have a more hopeful story idk.
But when I heard he wanted to kill Elena the pieces kinda started to fall in place considering his later work. I don’t think I’m cherry picking too much if I say that people seem to lose someone close in his stories. Kid, parent, sibling, friend, loved one. Which to me is as dark as a story can get.
On the other hand, maybe he has already ventilated these ideas now after TLOUp2 and will do more light hearted stories going forward. I guess we’ll see. I haven’t played Part 2 but I understand the ending is like ”Let’s not do this anymore. There is nothing good coming from this. We part ways and call it quits”.
Which is what we should do here as well btw… So I now chose to cherry pick and call it quits since this has nothing to do with a less mature Elden Ring anyway.
Boring repetitive game.Try Immortals Fenyx Rising.
It's inspired by these two so can be what you want.
Well, they're still working on the DLC expansion pack for it.Only downside about zelda imo is lack of enemys also the dlc was abit shit