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IGN | Starfield Feels like Xbox's Last Chance at Redemption
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feynoob
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It's not pr, as that is the most optimal data.
The key reason for that is that you don't own any games that are on gamepass. So you have to pay that monthly fees.
Giallo Corsa
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According to your logic mate, games should only receive good scores only if they're played for more than 2 weeks ? what ?
Say, TLOU (just an example) should receive lesser scores compared to...Deadly premonition 2 just 'cause the former is around the 15hour mark while the latter at 30 ?
Seriously mate, this is what you got from my post ?
Well, let's give every MMO out there a 10/10 then and be done with it if that's the case
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Kacho
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Starfield is very different. It was greenlit and the bulk of development happened before Microsoft came into the picture so I strongly disagree.
Killer8
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The article is obviously meant to be clickbait and inflammatory but there is a nugget of truth to it, at least as far as the Series X is concerned. We are almost 3 years into the generation and nearing what could be considered a half way point, if past generations are anything to go by, and yet there is very little notable about the Series X. It's not absolutely dire like some say and I think it's a bit better than Xbox One was at its midpoint, but in comparison to the competition it's been tepid. And I say this as a Series X owner who uses the hardware more than the PS5 - to play backwards compatible games.
I pointed out in another thread that we've still not seen much of games which were announced with the machine in 2020. Meanwhile Sony have released every game at their reveal event and then some. Why has Forza taken 3 years? Where's Hellblade 2? Where is Fable? Avowed? Everwild? Perfect Dark? Indiana Jones? State of Decay 3? Gears 6? In the words of Biden: "c'mon man". With Xbox you get a CGI reveal and then radio silence for years. I'm starting to question if half these games will end up as cross-gen titles... with the next Xbox.
And once that batch is out, will it even matter once Sony basically lap them in the years following their upcoming not-E3 showcase? Sony are onto phase 2 while Xbox's phase 1 isn't even off the ground.
I pointed out in another thread that we've still not seen much of games which were announced with the machine in 2020. Meanwhile Sony have released every game at their reveal event and then some. Why has Forza taken 3 years? Where's Hellblade 2? Where is Fable? Avowed? Everwild? Perfect Dark? Indiana Jones? State of Decay 3? Gears 6? In the words of Biden: "c'mon man". With Xbox you get a CGI reveal and then radio silence for years. I'm starting to question if half these games will end up as cross-gen titles... with the next Xbox.
And once that batch is out, will it even matter once Sony basically lap them in the years following their upcoming not-E3 showcase? Sony are onto phase 2 while Xbox's phase 1 isn't even off the ground.
Umbasaborne
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I love how triggering this article is to the xbox brand ambassadors at reeee and twitter
Luigi Mario
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If Ryan McCaffrey was the author of the article, I wouldn't have been surprised, but that it is Destin Legarie really speaks volumes.
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Topher
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Most folks had ridiculously low expectations for Redfall and even those were not met. Not sure where you are getting this fictional expectations for a "billion-dollar franchise" narrative from.
What exactly are you disagreeing with? What you said earlier isn't that far off with what I am saying here.
Are you saying Microsoft should not get credit or blame for anything Bethesda has produced or will produce? For how long?
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I don't agree with Starfield being there last chance but, it definitely needs to impress and deliver to turn things around. No one many have expected redfall to be a masterpiece but it certainly didn't deliver on anyone's expectations from xbox developers to fans.
feynoob
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That is a nightmare that you have.Meme i made for this thread and everyone waiting for No Man's Skyrim
Pray
to Todd and that yellow number would disappear.
feynoob
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I couldn't even run that game properly on xcloud.
Glad the game crashed on me a lot, otherwise I would have wasted my time playing it.
Flutta
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Starfield being associated with Bugthesda and Lying Todd doesn't help it's case either. But yeah i agree with you it will be a bigger shitshow because Phil was busy playing with his balls instead of creating good games for the Xboys.
Kacho
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Agreed. Destin is a good guy and his passion for Xbox is genuine. What he’s saying is how a lot of Xbox fans are feeling.
ToTTenTranz
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Honestly?
When Phil gets demoted to head of Xbox marketing, his current position gets replaced by someone more competent as a videogame business executive and Microsoft starts being competent at running their dev studios as a result.
feynoob
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Ryan had an issue with last year output too.
This is his tweet about last year statue
feynoob
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Changing management doesn't change their situation that much right now.
This is a problem that accumulated since the start of OG Xbox. Sony fixed this problem during PS3, while Xbox was focusing on 3rd party partnership.
They needed a clear acquisition plan to combat situations like this
Flutta
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Cory has been living under a rock for the past 10 years or he's still in denial it seems.. not sure which to believe.
Also, who's Cory, and why should we care?
Slicker than your average
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The sad thing about this is, Xbox hopes and dreams are pinned on this exclusive and they didn't even come up with the idea or start any of the development.
They bought a large publisher who was half way through making it already. Which makes it even more amusing if it flops.
They bought a large publisher who was half way through making it already. Which makes it even more amusing if it flops.
mckmas8808
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Luigi Mario
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I meant that it wouldn't be surprising if Ryan McCaffrey was critical of Xbox leadership, he has been for quite a while.
That Xbox 360 list is staggering btw.
DeepEnigma
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Yes. First party games are held to a higher standard due to the resources provided and focusing on the platform more.
Same. I'm actually stoked for it, and fingers crossed it delivers.
My only disappointment is no take off and landing on planets manually in 2023. Especially with NMS, Elite Dangerous, Scam Citizen, etc..
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Astray
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Not just that, if Redfall and Starfield were still 3P games, then they could crash and burn without being associated with Xbox or Microsoft's idea of 1P quality.A once third party game they would have gotten anyway.
Starfield is a Bethesda game, it will absolutely be memed to death one way or another, it's absolutely the last game to ever be seen as a "console savior".
Yep that will be the 1st actual inkling of what to expect with this game.
Kacho
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I disagree with you saying that Starfield receiving scrutiny is the same as any Xbox first party game. It’s not. The game has been in development for close to a decade and not under Microsoft. BGS games are notoriously buggy and Starfield will likely come out very buggy at launch. I’m not blaming Microsoft for that, but many people will.
If the game comes out and is shit like Redfall it will reflect poorly on Xbox even if they’re not wholly to blame.
Dr. Wilkinson
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…Feels like??
Lol
Ya don’t say!?
Lol
Ya don’t say!?
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Kacho
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For games like Forza, Gears, Halo, Fable and Perfect Dark I agree completely.
Topher
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Eh....I was going off of what you said, dude.
"Starfield being associated with the Xbox brand brings a whole new level of scrutiny to the game. "
Should Microsoft get credit for Hi Fi Rush?
bentanchorbolt
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Please share your sources.
Kacho
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Eh…ok.
No I don’t think Microsoft should get credit for HiFi Rush, duuuuuude. They had next to nothing to do with the development just like Starfield. You good or do you need me to clarify anything else?
Topher
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Eh…ok.
No I don’t think Microsoft should get credit for HiFi Rush, duuuuuude. They had next to nothing to do with the development just like Starfield. You good or do you need me to clarify anything else?
No, you answered my question. I respect your consistency.
Why are you being snarky all of the sudden? I wasn't trying to get under your skin. Sorry if I did.
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Luigi Mario
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We don't know if Indiana Jones is going to be exclusive or not, even insiders like Jez Corden are not sure about it and The Coalition started development on Gears 6 only last year.
What's really perplexing is the situation with Undead Labs and Compulsion Games, who were both acquired in 2018 and released their last game in 2018. Undead Labs has only managed to release a CGI trailer and Compulsion Games has gone radio silent since then.
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Kacho
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I’m being snarky because it always feels like your fishing for something. It’s annoying. Also that’s the second time you’ve told me you respect my consistency. It’s like you’re looking to trip me up. It’s weird.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
IKR, we only care about Millie's
I thought folks were telling Xbox players to not play this so they don't send developers the wrong message. Looks like they listened.
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zomboden
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No point in wasting development time patching this game. Anybody who wants to play it has already played it. First area was only completed by 8% of people who tried it (based on achievements) second area like 2%. Move on.
Topher
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If you don't want to discuss something any further then I suggest simply not responding. I apologized if I got under your skin so if that's not enough for you to move on peaceably then well.......I've done all I can do.
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Captain Toad
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At least it's IGN and not the Xbox CEO, this time.
DaleinCalgary
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It could be true, and they spent 7.5 billion for that last chance. They couldn't even develop their own last chance.
ToTTenTranz
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I mean.. Starfield got what, like 5 videos consisting of its developers in a circlejerk patting themselves on the back for how good their work had been?
No wonder the stakes are on the moon at this point, but it was Microsoft and Bethesda who put them there.
But fear not, guys.
ACG broke the code on Phil Spencer's plan B in case Starfield isn't a success.
No wonder the stakes are on the moon at this point, but it was Microsoft and Bethesda who put them there.
But fear not, guys.
ACG broke the code on Phil Spencer's plan B in case Starfield isn't a success.
digoutyoursoul
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Makes you wonder what this years line up would be if RedFall and Starfield had not been delayed
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Ideally if no games got delayed, they would have some of the other long gestating projects ready.
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DeepEnigma
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So if the game is a all out banger, they don't get credit then, eh?