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Immortal Fenix Down is much better than Breath of the Wild!

I platinumed it earlier this year on PS5, one of my biggest gaming surprises in a long time, was not expecting it to be as good as it was. Fantastic voice acting, gorgeous world, true sense of exploration and adventure, top-tier puzzles, satisfying combat, lots of genuine laugh out loud moments, nice gameplay variety, it's the total package.

I haven't played BoTW but having watched lots of footage it *looks* boring and bland af, I say that as an OG Zelda fan. I just hope Immortals turns into a franchise, each entry exploring a different mythology but using the same framework established in Fenyx, Ubisoft really nailed it.

EDIT: and lol at some posts bringing up AC Odyssey vs Witcher 3 comparison. Having plat'd both those game Witcher 3 is absolutely one of the greatest games of all time, no contest. This is a little bit different but again, I haven't played BoTW myself, my post is more about praising Fenyx. Seems many people find BoTW overrated but rabid Nintendogs will defend it no matter what, I guess it's the natural order of things.
 
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Kenpachii

Gold Member
I platinumed it earlier this year on PS5, one of my biggest gaming surprises in a long time, was not expecting it to be as good as it was. Fantastic voice acting, gorgeous world, true sense of exploration and adventure, top-tier puzzles, satisfying combat, lots of genuine laugh out loud moments, nice gameplay variety, it's the total package.

I haven't played BoTW but having watched lots of footage it *looks* boring and bland af, I say that as an OG Zelda fan. I just hope Immortals turns into a franchise, each entry exploring a different mythology but using the same framework established in Fenyx, Ubisoft really nailed it.

We need a origin version with egypth mythology right now.
 

DjMystix

Member
Immortals Fenix rising is one of my favorite games and probably the best game ubisoft has released in recent memory. But you just cannot dismiss the innovative, out of the box design botw brings to the table. I hate the weapon breaking system but botw feels so fresh, new, and addicting.

I do respect your opinion though. I love Fenix rising.
 

Claus Grimhildyr

Vincit qui se vincit
Breath of the Wild is a tech demo. Immortals has actual world design. That being said, the narration and story is a fucking disgrace.

I can't agree at all. Breath of the Wild had actual world design. It felt like a believable location.

Immortals felt like a game, with things mushed together and spaced so closely that it never felt like you were truly exploring, but simply going from point a to b to get the next collectible.

I enjoyed that about Immortals as somethings that is all I need, but it's world design is no where near as good as BotW. Hell, Genshin Impact is even better at world design than Immortals is.
 
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I agree completely that Fenyx rising is a better game imo. Part of the story in Fenyx is cring but BOTW don't "really" have a story either. Peopel complain Fenyx is a gaitn field of collectible but don;'t the same complain exist for BOTW too? Remember the shit reward for getting all the nuts?
 

Claus Grimhildyr

Vincit qui se vincit
I agree completely that Fenyx rising is a better game imo. Part of the story in Fenyx is cring but BOTW don't "really" have a story either. Peopel complain Fenyx is a gaitn field of collectible but don;'t the same complain exist for BOTW too? Remember the shit reward for getting all the nuts?

I think the joke went over your head.

The game is designed to allow players the freedom to explore and learn/find new secrets. You are not supposed to go out and get every collectible in the game. You stop gaining any rewards pretty early on in that grind. The "Golden Turd" is literally a joke saying you wasted your time.
 

Rea

Member
Nah, it not even the same lvl as BOTW. There's many reasons why BOTW won GOTY. BOTW is a game which has a soul. Immortal fenyx Rising it's UBI SOFT's boring shit open world formula with rip off BOTW skin.
 
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Breath of the Wild is a tech demo. Immortals has actual world design. That being said, the narration and story is a fucking disgrace.
I'm early on, but yeah, the narration is ruining the entire thing. If you want to have a comical game, hire actual comedians to write the script. It's painful. I need an option just to turn off the narrators.
 

Mozzarella

Member
I didnt play Immortal but i suppose its the usual Ubisoft game, uninspired, heavily influenced by a successful game that came before it and its trying to rip off. It may do some things better than BOTW but even with that i dont believe it makes it better just for that, and i doubt that its better, but variety of tastes can be interesting and good, otherwise those kind of games won't sell well. For me Breath of the Wild has to be one of the best video games of the decade and perhaps of all time. Its a legendary game. I understand it has certain flaws, but most if not all games are flawed, and i think a flawed game is usually better than a flawless game because flaws indicate the game tried to do something.

This thread is similar to the AC:Odyssey better than Witcher 3 thread so my response is also similar. Good for you that you enjoyed it more.
We can use that gif about every masterpiece has its cheap copy i guess :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 

Kenpachii

Gold Member
This is what i find.

Botw stenghts over rising.

- World is big and feels like u want to ride around and explore just to chill out from your day not packed constantly with content everywhere but this also could be a negative for some people.
- No handholding just u playing so no gatekeeping area's between progression which kills exploration
- Has good content in it + environment looks great and relaxing at times which helps the game massively.
- Lots of small detail that u will notice.
- Evertide island.
- OOT feeling but never gets to its level however through lack of content
- VIllages, heavily lacks in rising even while i like to see some zelda city's at some point.
- Canon u already saw defeated a 1000 times, so his presence is largely ignored as goal which means the map itself is more the main focus then the actual end objective.
- More veriety of continents then rising, rising 3 different environments was getting old quick.
- physics
- end boss was better
- Not native on PC, big negative here.

Rising strengths:

- Packed with content everywhere
- Doesn't take itself seriously
- Visuals are clear a step up, makes zelda look gray and outdated
- Combat leagues ahead of botw
- Shrines are better and more interesting in my view then botw ones they also do get old tho relative soon
- Voice acting and actually some form of story
- Improved pillar system that isn't as obnoxious as with zelda botw, they really ripped off from ac the worst part.
- climbing and other stuff more responsive
- Puzzles where more interesting
- Playing on PC native, big plus here.
- Probably some stuff i forgot to mention.

I personally think zelda breath of the wild could have been more then it is right now, I would have loved it if some second team took it over and filled in the gabs like real dungeons, more interesting items etc etc. It just felt like a lot more could have been done with it if they actually put a proper team on it.

Rising main complain is that the game is to short, i would have liked a longer journey and the map to be a lot bigger. I think the perfect rising would have been smashing AC games together of different theme's like egypth/norway/india/greece and whatever else they got and make a island with 2-3 area's from each. instead of the 4-5 area's with more of the samish feels towards it.

My main complain really with rising is to short, but more different content and not more of the same.
With BOTW its long enough, but more meaningfiul content so exploring doesn't feel pointless after 20 hours of gameplay.

Both are great, and both can be improved.
 
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Fbh

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Immortals is fun, easily one of the best recent Ubisoft games.

But it felt like instead of building and improving upon what BoTW did, they discarded everything that made the world of BoTW fun and memorable, and replaced it with all the generic open world tropes that BoTW refreshingly lacked.
 
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Hestar69

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Nah, it not even the same lvl as BOTW. There's many reasons why BOTW won GOTY. BOTW is a game which has a soul. Immortal fenyx Rising it's UBI SOFT's boring shit open world formula with rip off BOTW skin.
BOTW didn't deserve GOTY..it was a good game, but the game in your avatar was 10000000% better IMO..

I still enjoyed both alot,but HZD ruined BOTW for me..It took me 6 months later for BOTW to finally click and I started to enjoy it/beat it.
 
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Freeman76

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I just wish Nintendo would make a deal with MS, where the Switch gets MCC or something, and they let MS port BoTW to xbox. I know it will never happen, but it really irks me that Nintendo have some of the best games out there on such wank hardware. BoTW 4k 60 would be incredible.

OT, I like Immortals a lot, and it was very cool to explore and find all the secrets. BoTW is better for me, as it nailed that isolated adventure feeling so well.
 

Rea

Member
BOTW didn't deserve GOTY..it was a good game, but the game in your avatar was 10000000% better IMO..

I still enjoyed both alot,but HZD ruined BOTW for me..It took me 6 months later for BOTW to finally click and I started to enjoy it/beat it.
I love both games, personally, both deserved to be GOTY.
 

GymWolf

Gold Member
I had more fun with it compared to zelda aswell, but i'm not sure if it is a better game, zelda has much better physics but combat is much better in fenyx.
 

GymWolf

Gold Member
You are going to get some heat, but you are right, OP

Its better in almost every way

I see many people on this first page alone just saying "no, you're wrong" without telling us why, and I expect many more to come
They can't because the game is actually better in many aspects, and inferior in others.

Whoever think that zelda does EVERYTHING better probably didn't player fenyx or they are just lying to themselfs.
 
I don't have a dog in the race but I'm not going to buy Immortals because Ass Creed Odyssey was ass. BotW was fine, but had shit weapon degradation
 
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DragonNCM

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Bot are good games BOTW is slow passed & map is huge....but empty, on other hand Fenix have far better combat system, menu & filled world with monsters & secrets.
I like Fenix storytelling better no boring quests & gimped combat.
 

Airbus Jr

Litigate my emotions, daddy!
Fenix Rising ( Not Phoenix Down bro thats a final fantasy item to resurect your dead teammate) is better in some aspect

Better graphics and gameplay combat system not to mention it has no weapon degradation which i trully hate

But BotW still wins for story and better world design
 

UnNamed

18+ Member
Take the physics for example:

BotW introduced it, but it is almost unusable in a fight, except for the puzzles of course.

I:FR took the physics and make it less accurate and more precise, so use the physics for combat is easier and more compelling.
 
I recently bought a Switch and BOTW was my first game on it. I cannot believe how absolutely boring this game is. Fenyx on the other hand is a delight to play. It looks better and has an actual narrative + plus it's always good for a laugh. So yeah... I'm with ya OP.
 

SenkiDala

Member
*mods please fix title to Fenix Rising. Stupid autocorrect!
Thats Good It Is What It Is GIF by RTL
 

Ozzie666

Member
If Immortals was Kid Icarus and made/published by Nintendo, with that bit of extra expected polish and whatever else would come with being made Switch exclusively engine wise. This game would have been much more highly regarded than it is/was.
 

GymWolf

Gold Member
Fenix Rising ( Not Phoenix Down bro thats a final fantasy item to resurect your dead teammate) is better in some aspect

Better graphics and gameplay combat system not to mention it has no weapon degradation which i trully hate

But BotW still wins for story and better world design
It's like saying that dog shit taste better than ape shit tho :lollipop_grinning_sweat:
 
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Halo0629

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I actually enjoyed immortal more since they took everything good and got rid of the annoying stuffs in botw. But if a sequel of both games came out right now I would probably still go with botw 2.
 

buenoblue

Member
Loved fenyx on ps5. Absolutely georgous game and played great. Need to check out the dlc. Couldn't stand BOTW. Sold it after a month it looked and played Garbo to me.
 

MakarelBoi

Neo Member
Hahahaha best joke ever. Immortal is a forgotten game that trying to cash in the BOTW formula. BOTW is still widely mention by many and without it game like Genshin Impact wouldn't even exist.
 

MagnesG

Banned
Fenyx Rising is good, but the DLCs really soured my hype for the game as series. They managed to milk down the concept, even with a new coat of paint expansions but nothing else much.

I don't think they could expand further more than this release sadly.
 

Orta

console wars 2020 - participant
I own BOTW on my switch and Immortal Fenix Down on my PS5. Fenix Down trumps Zelda in every way.

Bettter story telling, better combat, better world navigation, better weapon system, better Powe up system, more interesting characters, much prettier graphics, more variety in the open world, much more populated world than BOTW mostly empty world, better charm, etc. I got this game for under $30 on Amazon and it's simply blowing me away. Immortal Fenix Rising maybe the most under appreciated game of this generation so far!

*mods please fix title to Fenix Rising. Stupid autocorrect!

You mean you prefer it to botw (which is a vastly, VASTLY superior game).

Go sit in a corner and think about what you said.
 

KungFucius

Member
I like both games, but no way is Fenyx better than BoTW. It's better than SSHD, so in that narrow way, it is better than a Zelda. Of course everything is better than SS because the controls are awful.
 

iorek21

Member
I didn’t really enjoy Fenyx that much, thought it was too bloated and too much focused on puzzles for its own good.

Combat was pretty good though, lots of options to keep things interesting.
 
This is a joke post, right? I can't take this opinion seriously, even though it is a subjective matter, when the OP butchered the name for the game two times in a row, one in the title, and the other in the post itself.
 

Gamer79

Predicts the worst decade for Sony starting 2022
I recently bought a Switch and BOTW was my first game on it. I cannot believe how absolutely boring this game is. Fenyx on the other hand is a delight to play. It looks better and has an actual narrative + plus it's always good for a laugh. So yeah... I'm with ya OP.
That's the main complaint I have as well. BOTW is simply boring. A ton of Critiques I hear about Fenix Rising Also applies to Breath of the Wild

-Fenix has too much Collecting? How many of those Stupid Spirit orb shrines are in BOTW? Something like 120 or so? Also those stupid Decco seed collecting? Again both are optional in both games but to power up you have to do some

-Fenix Rising has a bad story? Lets not even TAlk about Zelda's long and confusing storyline. It's hard to find 2 experts who can agree how the games mesh into a story? BOTW is your typical Hero coming back from the ashes to save the world storyline. How original :rolleyes:

-BOTW has more detail? What? The open world is mostly barren and boring. Barely anything going on most of the map. Fenix Rising is a lucious world filled with things to do.

Truth be told if the name "zelda" wasn't attached to Breath of the Wild it would be an average 7 or 8 game at best. It lacks many features games like the Witcher 3 done better ages ago that was over looked. Hell BOTW doesn't have standard open world games like Skyrim has and it's pathetic.
 
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