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In 2021 Sony accounted for 46% of all spend on console games, hardware and services

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
While I see your perspective, I disagree with it somewhat. Obviously Sony should focus on making their first-party games awesome for their console, but I don't see why the release has to be an either/or scenario. Why can't they release their first-party titles on PC and PS5 at the same time? Microsoft does that and they don't seem to be taking a financial hit. PC owners don't have to buy a console to play first-party Xbox games and that is awesome. I don't want to spend money if I don't have to. Sony could do this as well. It's not like PC gaming is so prevalent that Sony is going to start losing millions of console sales due to releasing first-party titles on PC on day one. Consoles are cheaper than PCs, and because of that console gaming is always going to thrive.

Because Sony's strategy allows them to focus on making the best product possible on each platform. Also their games coming out on PC 2 years later can have.......

- Ultra-wide support
- DLSS support
- Full 4K\60fps
- All the gaming updates that came out for the PS5.
- All the DLC that had already came out on the PS5.


You getting a 1st party PS game on PC years later, is you actually getting a better product in the long run.
 

Hezekiah

Banned
Really? Your entire argument is that I have to be broke in order to take the stance that I have?







I have a Halo Infinite Xbox Series X, a PlayStation 5, a Nintendo Switch, a Desktop PC with an RTX 3090, 64GB of RAM, and three 4TB SSDs in it, a PlayStation Vita, and a NAS with 100 TB of IronWolf Pro HDDs. Care to try again?
You sure you don't want to put your PC specs on your About page?

64GB of RAM and three 4TB SSDs is information everyone deserves a chance to know.
 

MrFunSocks

Banned
You sure you don't want to put your PC specs on your About page?

64GB of RAM and three 4TB SSDs is information everyone deserves a chance to know.
You called the poster broke and laughed at them because you’re a warrior, they proved you wrong in the best way possible. At the moment a single one of those NAS HDDs probably costs half the price of a PS5 or more and the dudes got 10 of them.

Take the L warrior.
 

IFireflyl

Member
Because Sony's strategy allows them to focus on making the best product possible on each platform. Also their games coming out on PC 2 years later can have.......

- Ultra-wide support
- DLSS support
- Full 4K\60fps
- All the gaming updates that came out for the PS5.
- All the DLC that had already came out on the PS5.


You getting a 1st party PS game on PC years later, is you actually getting a better product in the long run.

You're assuming that in order for Sony games to have the above features that they need to delay the game by two years. The only extras that waiting two years would provide would be the game updates and DLC, but if they release the games on PC on day one then PC games would have those at the same time as PlayStation players. Back 4 Blood was released in October on both Xbox and PC and it supports ultra-wide, DLSS, and 4k/60fps. There is no rule that you need to wait two years for console games to be released on PC in order to have the criteria you listed (other than game updates and DLC - but again, why would you want to wait for that instead of having it as soon as the updates/DLC release).

You sure you don't want to put your PC specs on your About page?

64GB of RAM and three 4TB SSDs is information everyone deserves a chance to know.

MrFunSocks MrFunSocks gets it. I came into this discussion to try to show a different perspective in a civil and respectful manner. You (and the other guy I quoted when I first responded to you) got super uppity at that. You implied that I must be broke if I'm complaining, and I showed you how wrong you were. At no point was I being a braggart. I have been super poor before, and I don't go out of my way to make people feel bad because they don't have the nice things that I have. My money and toys don't make me a better person than anyone else, and my identity isn't wrapped up in those things. I only showed you that information to make you see how ridiculous you were being. While I disagree with mckmas8808 mckmas8808 , at least he is being respectful in his replies to me. You, however, are responding like an emotional teenager.
 

Papacheeks

Banned
You're assuming that in order for Sony games to have the above features that they need to delay the game by two years. The only extras that waiting two years would provide would be the game updates and DLC, but if they release the games on PC on day one then PC games would have those at the same time as PlayStation players. Back 4 Blood was released in October on both Xbox and PC and it supports ultra-wide, DLSS, and 4k/60fps. There is no rule that you need to wait two years for console games to be released on PC in order to have the criteria you listed (other than game updates and DLC - but again, why would you want to wait for that instead of having it as soon as the updates/DLC release).



MrFunSocks MrFunSocks gets it. I came into this discussion to try to show a different perspective in a civil and respectful manner. You (and the other guy I quoted when I first responded to you) got super uppity at that. You implied that I must be broke if I'm complaining, and I showed you how wrong you were. At no point was I being a braggart. I have been super poor before, and I don't go out of my way to make people feel bad because they don't have the nice things that I have. My money and toys don't make me a better person than anyone else, and my identity isn't wrapped up in those things. I only showed you that information to make you see how ridiculous you were being. While I disagree with mckmas8808 mckmas8808 , at least he is being respectful in his replies to me. You, however, are responding like an emotional teenager.

Where did I imply anything about money? Can you use your steam deck on PS5? Can you load steam OS on your Xbox/PS5?

No.

Features like hardware customization and things like dual sense valve steam deck all have their exclusive features.

I think the issue people have is not with your different outlook, but that your outlook or viewpoint is super far removed from overall how products work in general for competition.

Custom hardware breeds innovation. Without valve trying to push vr with software like half life alyx where would PSVR2 be spec wise ket alone investments in AAA CR titles?

Microsoft has no VR. And over time they nay start making aaa vr software.
 

IFireflyl

Member
Where did I imply anything about money? Can you use your steam deck on PS5? Can you load steam OS on your Xbox/PS5?

No.

Features like hardware customization and things like dual sense valve steam deck all have their exclusive features.

I think the issue people have is not with your different outlook, but that your outlook or viewpoint is super far removed from overall how products work in general for competition.

Custom hardware breeds innovation. Without valve trying to push vr with software like half life alyx where would PSVR2 be spec wise ket alone investments in AAA CR titles?

Microsoft has no VR. And over time they nay start making aaa vr software.

Why did you respond to my post that was towards other people? When did I say anything to you about you implying anything about money? You're confused.
 

MrFunSocks

Banned
Why did you respond to my post that was towards other people? When did I say anything to you about you implying anything about money? You're confused.
Did Papacheeks Papacheeks just accidentally out himself as an alt of Hezekiah Hezekiah ? From what I can see you didn’t have any interaction with papa cheeks in that post, but he comes in saying that you said you were talking to him when you quoted and responded to hez lol
 
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Hezekiah

Banned
Did Papacheeks Papacheeks just accidentally out himself as an alt of Hezekiah Hezekiah ? From what I can see you didn’t have any interaction with papa cheeks in that post, but he comes in saying that you said were talking to him when you quoted and responded to hez lol
No idea what you're talking about.

Maybe you should go back to experiencing what Sydney to New York looks like on Flight Sim because you're talking rubbish.
 

Papacheeks

Banned
Why did you respond to my post that was towards other people? When did I say anything to you about you implying anything about money? You're confused.

Reading your replies and explaining to you why the response you are getting from others is because you sound like your port begging in the nicest way.

Others in this thread should know better in how to collect them selves and either put you on ignore or give a thoughtful response.

Sorry if I or others came off as that.

Even though you were not directed responses to me , I think I speak for most In here that what your actually doing is basically port begging.

I mean it’s the only thing that makes sense with your stance?

Because what you are talking about would undermine competition. And without that we get no push for innovation in how engines are built that may be used in specific ways with a specific hardware setup.

Anyway you have all consoles like others said if you prefer pc then wait. Or wait till games go on sale on psn which they do all the time and double dip. Which is what I do.

Cdkeys I’ve never played full price for any Sony game or new releases in general.
 
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IFireflyl

Member
Reading your replies and explaining to you why the response you are getting from others is because you sound like your port begging in the nicest way.

Others in this thread should know better in how to collect them selves and either put you on ignore or give a thoughtful response.

Sorry if I or others came off as that.

Even though you were not directed responses to me , I think I speak for most In here that what your actually doing is basically port begging.

I mean it’s the only thing that makes sense with your stance?

Because what you are talking about would undermine competition. And without that we get no push for innovation in how engines are built that may be used in specific ways with a specific hardware setup.

Anyway you have all consoles like others said if you prefer pc then wait. Or wait till games go on sale on psn which they do all the time and double dip. Which is what I do.

Cdkeys I’ve never played full price for any Sony game or new releases in general.

I'm not port begging. I would just prefer to have a game on PC so I won't need to buy a console for exclusives. I don't feel like that's an unreasonable desire. I'm not throwing a fit that Sony isn't releasing first-party games on PC on day one, but my preference would be for them to release their first-party games on PC on day one.
 

Panajev2001a

GAF's Pleasant Genius
I'm not port begging. I would just prefer to have a game on PC so I won't need to buy a console for exclusives. I don't feel like that's an unreasonable desire.
Debatable, being a reasonable desire or not (not saying you are are an unreasonable person), but what would be the definition for port begging then?
 

IFireflyl

Member
Debatable, being a reasonable desire or not (not saying you are are an unreasonable person), but what would be the definition for port begging then?

It's not debatable. If you call a preference begging then you're begging your job for money just by preferring to make more money. I would prefer not to have to buy another device to play exclusive games. Nothing about that statement fits the definition of begging.
 
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