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Insider Gaming: Sony’s next Playstation Handheld (not a cloud-streaming device)
- Thread starter Lunatic_Gamer
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- News Rumor Hardware
AngelMuffin
Member
IDK, half the price? better battery life? PS5 exclusives? Just throwing possible reasons out there.
Banjo64
cumsessed
Why not make something in between the Switch and Steam Deck power wise. Small form factor, dock, OLED screen, 5 hour battery and PS5 remote play. Buy 4 or 5 dedicated handheld studios (teams like Supergiant Games). Sit back and sell 20m units in Japan alone and cream in the MTX profit from games like Genshin and Fortnite?
AngelMuffin
Member
I’m certain they’re trying to meet a certain price point. Hopefully less than $200.
AngelMuffin
Member
It’s not a separate system they need to deliberately support like the PSVR or Vita. It’s just an extension of the PS5. Supporting the PS5, in turn, supports the device.
HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
Exactly. If this is streaming only it could potentially be very cheap and a huge success. Couple cheap Android hardware pieces from China and a Sony logo slapped onto them, done. Only 499 ,- because why not we're Sony.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
So a $700 device?
Iced Arcade
Member
should be pretty cheap. could be a good device to play on the shitter.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Why were people so okay with an Xbox Series Z, but not this?
Yes, it makes a lot of sense. I very much doubt Sony expects it to sell gangbusters. But as another additive experience.
Woopah
Member
The report says that the device must be connected to the internet at all times and requires a PS5 to be able to play. If you were able to actually install games on the Q Lite itself, they'd be no need for it to require a PS5 to work.
So it sounds like its not a Switch Lite, but more of an ehhanced Wii U gamepad.
Of course none of this is confirmed until Sony itself talks about the device.
Might have to define what the series z is.
Post in thread 'Unannounced Sony / PlayStation hardware coming soon (Asus employee say is a new handheld)' https://www.neogaf.com/threads/unan...-say-is-a-new-handheld.1654929/post-267790733
My personal issue if this rumour is correct is the fact that it doesn't support ps now.
You don’t see the difference between a streaming stick for big screen gaming and this rumor?
I’m also not sure many people expected a streaming stick to be a mass market success vs just buying a Series S.
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SRTtoZ
Member
Talk about misleading title. Yea it's not a cloud streaming device but it's a streaming device. Stupid as hell. Is it going to play games seamlessly without input lag when I'm out of my house? The answer is no because I already play the cloud games from the most advanced PS+ tier and I can still feel the input lag.
Woopah
Member
Becasue at this point splitting resources between different ecosystems is not the best idea. Games are too expensive and take too long to make.
Sony's problem in Japan is a software one not a hardware one. If they are going to buy studios and ask them to make games appealing to Japan, then the best thing to do would be to put those games on PS5.
Setsuna Mudou
Member
For that price I'll take 3, keep one in the box for any eventuality in a few years' time
MisterXDTV
Member
If you have Playstation Plus Premium, you can play the PS3 games available there
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NecrosaroIII
Ask me about my terrible takes on Star Trek characters
I use my PS5 remote play all the time. It's pretty sick.
You can hate on it all you want, but it's the future. Might be a ways off (maybe 10-20 years), but in the future there won't be hardware.
paolo11
Member
I’m ok with it. Most prices are high already. If the specs are good let’s do it.
MisterXDTV
Member
Sony is not ok with it....
systemr123
Member
If this device is real, I think you can use it for both local ps5 streaming and cloud streaming. There is no reason why Sony would implement only 1 of those options since they’re technically the same except for where the server is located.
Woopah
Member
The reason is that Sony want people to have to buy a PS5 to be able to use it.
MisterXDTV
Member
Exactly... It's like a "second screen" for your PS5
Hitchyhero
Banned
I loved the vita and remote play but only as an added feature. I couldn't imagine playing properly with remote play.... There's always a bit of lag, especially noticeable with FPS.
Even with my Xbox and phone I only use it with games like stardew
Even with my Xbox and phone I only use it with games like stardew
Crispy Gamer
Member
Sony's been doing remote play since the PS3/psp days so this makes complete sense but hopefully it can finally realize the original vision and be seamless no more half assed remote play
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Last PS5 accessory was $650, I think.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
No idea. I think this is great, but only if you only have a PS5. If you plan to remote play/stream any other platform, you should just get a backbone or something like the Logitech device. I’m really thinking of getting the Logitech, with how much I remote play. I’m just worried about the connection, as I would have to use my phone as a hotspot when at work, instead of just using my phone with a backbone like device.
Today on my lunch break I was playing MLB The Show via xCloud and had zero issues with latency. Power swinging for homers all break, lol.
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TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Me being a PS fan you think I don't have thoughts on Xbox productivity.So, PS has no games.
Man, I'd love to hear your thoughts on the whole Xbox thing which has been going on for more than 2 years (with many projects still being literally vaporware)
But I call it how it is regardless of Platform, even Playstation.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
OOOOHHHH my friend, there were plenty lol. The idea was that the streaming stick would be $50 or even free if you bought 2 years worth of GamePass and that could be a way to get people into GP subs.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Why do you use PS5 remote play? I'm curious how people in the real world are using it nowadays.
Dr. Claus
Vincit qui se vincit
They became increasingly American. The Vita and PSP were amazing in Japan, but the American heads failed to understand what made these platforms so great and ran them into the ground. Now that Playstation is based in America, we can say goodbye to ever seeing a quality handheld from them again.
Dr. Claus
Vincit qui se vincit
I will never understand you loonies championing for less consumer rights by acting like it is the future. You are what is wrong with this industry.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
They are literally wanting less consumer rights. I've had many "GAF fights" about the cloud being our only future. And there's a sad percentage of them that actually want it this way, and do NOT want there to be a choice (like we have today).
I sometimes wonder if they are industry plants.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Ok grandpa.
NecrosaroIII
Ask me about my terrible takes on Star Trek characters
I have mixed feelings myself, but it's more just seeing the writing don't the wall. No use complaining about an inevitability.
All physical media is heading that way.
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FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Not directed at me, but I use it to play my games on my work breaks. I don’t get to game as much as I’d like at home. Or if I’m playing something like MLB The Show, I can easily play that while my wife and I have garbage tv on, like 90 Day Fiancé, Love is Blind or Married at First Sight.
most of the chatter was around $99 or slightly higher with a controller.
There’s no real need for you to try to paint a picture of console warring at work. Streaming only handhelds have never been popular here.
Here’s the thread about the Logitech Cloud gaming handheld. Largely critical
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/xbox...logitech-g-cloud-gaming-handheld-350.1641741/
And the one for Razer’s attempt
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/verizon-teases-a-‘5g-gaming-handheld’-made-by-razer.1642155/
bentanchorbolt
Banned
If the rumors about this device are true and it turns out to be for PS5 remote play, then its going to flop hard. Nobody wants a handheld where the contingent of it working or not working is based entirely around your access to quality Internet. The only way this truly works would be to develop a mobile SoC with AMD that allows you to play your PS5/PS4 games on the go.
Baki
Member
Form factor does matter. It’s been over 20 years since a home console has sold over 11m units in Japan. Meanwhile, the only portable console to sell less than 20m units was the PS Vita.
nial
Gold Member
It's funny to me that this thing causes so much anger or confusion, because the concept of a handheld inherently tied to a home console has already been done before, including by Sony. As much as I want a proper Vita successor, this is a niche device not made for most people here, move on.
John Wick
Member
It's just playing PS5 games via remote play.
Dr. Claus
Vincit qui se vincit
I noticed a lot of them were, initially PCMR and Xbox Warriors, but now I am seeing an increasing amount of Sony Warriros jumping into it. Never the people who actually play all consoles - only die hard warriors.
Shows how sad they truly are and where their views truly lie. They don't play games, they just have to defend shitty decisions by their favorite plastic box maker.
K2D
Banned
Say this device is capable of a bit rate of 15Mbps and you play for 30 minutes during work commute for 22 days a month. That'll be about 150 GB per month.
How are data plans in different parts of the world? In my country we pay $8-15(!) for 1 GB pr month, all the way up to "free use" at around $50 pr month of 5G.
"Free use" here however accounted for 600 to 1000 GB though last time someone tested it.
How are data plans in different parts of the world? In my country we pay $8-15(!) for 1 GB pr month, all the way up to "free use" at around $50 pr month of 5G.
"Free use" here however accounted for 600 to 1000 GB though last time someone tested it.