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It's funny when people are getting banned for console warring while some of the mods are console warriors

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azertydu91

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Ah ok, that's not a 'warning'. When we just delete posts we can send a notification. This one was basically saying "Look you already have a courtesy warning, we're going to look the other way this time despite that, but next time, we will follow through."


We call them warn-warnz, or prebans.







We only have the new logs since the move to xen, so unfortunately not. It was probably unjust sadly.





You have no warnings, I will remedy that now though. Using my milk filmed eyes, that require the light theme at 100% brightness so I can see more than shapes.
Alright I gotta admit I didn't expect the warning to be "Anti light sentiment in thread. Prejudiced against white." This was a funny one.And now I can see the warning tab on my profile so it just doesn't appear when you have none....

Shit with this anti white warning I'm gonna look like a ree poster now.

Edit: there are points for warning ?I never knew that, I wonder who has the most points that is still not banned...I feel like we should have leaderboards.
 
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01011001

Member
I once got 3 warning points for posting a pic of Phil laughing. I also got 3 warning points for posting a Marty Mcfly gif in a thread made by the user 'Marty Mcfly' lol.

Sometimes the mods get it wrong, but overall they do a fantastic job.
My only worry is that there are a few posters where it must be 90% of their posts are console war posts, yet thye are still here. I mean many on here know who they are, and the mods arent stupid so.

it's not that straight forward either. I always get accused of being an Xbox fanboy for example, as soon as I say anythbad about anything Sony related... but I shit on Microsoft stuff for days on end and get no such accusations for the opposite... it's weird.

so I wouldn't trust anyone's opinion on here either when it comes to classifying someone as a console warrior.

I think I get that label often because I am very direct with that I think about certain games and I also often do not align with what the mainstream thinks.

example, I absolutely hate Naughty Dog and anything their game design philosophy stands for. I think their games are a joke... terribly designed mainstream fodder for 50yo casual gamer dads.
that got me into hot water at times...
yet I also fucking hate 343i with every fiber of my being, and make no secret of it... that somehow is way less controversial even tho I say even worse things about them.

so if you only are in Sony related threds you'd think I am a Microsoft fanboy, while in many Xbox related threads youd think I am anti Microsoft. it's all down to which threads you frequent and, for some, their biased Interpretation of posts
 

DarkMage619

Member
Let me preface this first by saying...



I do own an Xbox Series X, despite what others might claim.

And I dislike the series S in the same way I dislike Sony's new love of "Cross generation games," now currently the series S has not held Microsoft back, that's because the Xbox One/S/X has currently been the one to do this. Essentially when you design a game you have to design it for the lowest common denominator.

As a PC player it's why I have to buy £4000 PC's just to achieve slightly better than console preformance, because when you have to design a game around weak hardware it can only effectively scale so far. I know I know, PC's have thousands of variations the Series only has two, and your right, however there is still a demand on publishers that if they want there game on Xbox it has to work well on the series S. That will inevitably effect how specific games are designed, a load wall here, lower textures there etc, and instead of making games for the Series X and getting them to work on the S, it is far far easier to design games for the series S and get them to work on the X.

It's why I was happy with Sonys choice to essentially just release a disc vs no disc version as at least then they have the same console running the games. However yeah now we have essentially PS5 titles hamstrung because they need to work on the base PS4, something I don't like, however I know eventually it will go away... with the series S, that's hamstrung for the entire generation.

Honestly it costs more to buy a digital only Series S + a 1TB memory card than it does to just buy a Series X and with only 400GB of usable storage space unless you upgrade your going to want to. That's my personal thoughts on it, and I think it's many peoples they just don't voice it anymore incase they get smacked by the ban hammer, hence why I prefaced this with a picture of my actual console.
You have provided a more thoughtful perspective than most. The idea that the XSS would 'hold the generation back' was never a serious concern. The XSS I'm sure you know has the same CPU as both the XSX and the PS5. So things like AI, physics and anything not related to resolution should need no compromise. No one can point to a level or game design element that had to be removed on XSS.

In addition every game hitting Xbox will hit PC which means a multitude of even lower speced devices will need to run those titles. Those games will have a bigger impact on game design than the XSS will.

Third parties have shown no interest in making XSS version of games run well currently. Games like Dying Light 2 came out missing the 60 fps mode and much hay was made about it only to later be patched in. This indicates it wasn't given any more consideration than the last generation systems the game also ran on.

A developer choosing not to optimize an XSS title doesn't mean the system isn't capable of better performance. I'll look to MS released titles to get a real gage of what the XSS can do.

The storage on the XSS is easily mitigated with an external storage device. You don't have to buy the proprietary device at all and it supported those external devices day one.

In the end there has been no evidence that the XSS has hurt customers or negatively impacted the industry. It has allowed people who didn't want to spend more money an option to play current generation games and it has also allowed MS to give more people access to their ecosystem. The same cannot be said of the 'paper' launch of the PS5 DE which clearly wasn't made in the same volume as the XSS.

If people don't like the XSS why not ignore it and not buy one. Perhaps it will just disappear and MS will end it's support. Speak with your wallets, snide comments on message board forums does little.
 

DaGwaphics

Member
I never understood why anyone thought it was a good game. right at launch there were so many issues with it, and it simply never got better

I think there is a bit of a split between the campaign and the multi-player. Big fans of the classic campaigns seem to like the campaign a lot. I've just barely started it, so, can't really make a judgement myself, though I was never the biggest Halo player.
 

01011001

Member
Ah ok, that's not a 'warning'. When we just delete posts we can send a notification. This one was basically saying "Look you already have a courtesy warning, we're going to look the other way this time despite that, but next time, we will follow through."


We call them warn-warnz, or prebans.

ok that explains that, but it doesn't explain how "I hope the sequel is not as mundane" is even remotely something to delete ot send a warning message for... like... what?

and maybe you can see deleted messages and show it, because I am 100% certain I said nothing but, I found the first one mediocre and hope the second one will be better...
 

DaGwaphics

Member
instead of making games for the Series X and getting them to work on the S, it is far far easier to design games for the series S and get them to work on the X.

It's why I was happy with Sonys choice to essentially just release a disc vs no disc version as at least then they have the same console running the games. However yeah now we have essentially PS5 titles hamstrung because they need to work on the base PS4, something I don't like, however I know eventually it will go away... with the series S, that's hamstrung for the entire generation.

We'll see if anything materializes as time goes on, but XSX is clearly getting versions of games that are near identical to PS5. I'm not seeing the big advantage of the single sku approach so far and doubt that I will in the future.

Plus, I felt like me dropping that personal opinion in this thread is an amazing fit. :messenger_grinning_smiling:
 
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GymWolf

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it's not that straight forward either. I always get accused of being an Xbox fanboy for example, as soon as I say anythbad about anything Sony related... but I shit on Microsoft stuff for days on end and get no such accusations for the opposite... it's weird.

so I wouldn't trust anyone's opinion on here either when it comes to classifying someone as a console warrior.

I think I get that label often because I am very direct with that I think about certain games and I also often do not align with what the mainstream thinks.

example, I absolutely hate Naughty Dog and anything their game design philosophy stands for. I think their games are a joke... terribly designed mainstream fodder for 50yo casual gamer dads.
that got me into hot water at times...
yet I also fucking hate 343i with every fiber of my being, and make no secret of it... that somehow is way less controversial even tho I say even worse things about them.

so if you only are in Sony related threds you'd think I am a Microsoft fanboy, while in many Xbox related threads youd think I am anti Microsoft. it's all down to which threads you frequent and, for some, their biased Interpretation of posts
The reason could be that everyone and their mother bash 343 so bashing them is kinda the norm, but nd are considered some of the best devs by many people so when someone heavily talk shit about them it could be see as some hate\troll speech.
 
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STARSBarry

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We'll see if anything materializes as time goes on, but XSX is clearly getting versions of games that are near identical to PS5. I'm not seeing the big advantage of the single sku approach so far and doubt that I will in the future.

Plus, I felt like me dropping that personal opinion in this thread is an amazing fit. :messenger_grinning_smiling:

They will have to stop making PS4 games first, by the time they stop it will probably be PS5 Pro time.
 

sircaw

Banned
Let's just be honest here, the mods are totally rubbish and are biased based.

We need a new mod team, My suggestions would be Riky Riky Bo_Hazem Bo_Hazem Bernd Lauert Bernd Lauert and Ass of Can Whooping Ass of Can Whooping .

We could then give EviLore EviLore the boot, then unban Byrant and he could be the leader.

This place would be a modern-day utopia.

Then we could vanquish all Liverpool people and cat lovers. "lollipop_disappointed:






Ps Riky Riky and Bernd Lauert Bernd Lauert , shameful you guys are not gold yet. SHAMEFUL
 
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DaGwaphics

Member
Let's just be honest here, the mods are totally rubbish and are biased based.

We need a new mod team, My suggestions would be Riky Riky Bo_Hazem Bo_Hazem Bernd Lauert Bernd Lauert and Ass of Can Whooping Ass of Can Whooping .

We could then give EviLore EviLore the boot, then unban Byrant and he could be the leader.

This place would be a modern-day utopia.

Then we could vanquish all Liverpool people and cat lovers. "lollipop_disappointed:






Ps Riky Riky and Bernd Lauert Bernd Lauert , shameful you guys are not gold yet. SHAMEFUL

I feel like me and @ DarkMage619 DarkMage619 and M MonarchJT need to be held for consideration as well. A few of the other Sony guys too. For our complete lack of bias to be sure. :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 

Topher

Gold Member
it's not that straight forward either. I always get accused of being an Xbox fanboy for example, as soon as I say anythbad about anything Sony related... but I shit on Microsoft stuff for days on end and get no such accusations for the opposite... it's weird.

so I wouldn't trust anyone's opinion on here either when it comes to classifying someone as a console warrior.

I think I get that label often because I am very direct with that I think about certain games and I also often do not align with what the mainstream thinks.

example, I absolutely hate Naughty Dog and anything their game design philosophy stands for. I think their games are a joke... terribly designed mainstream fodder for 50yo casual gamer dads.
that got me into hot water at times...
yet I also fucking hate 343i with every fiber of my being, and make no secret of it... that somehow is way less controversial even tho I say even worse things about them.

so if you only are in Sony related threds you'd think I am a Microsoft fanboy, while in many Xbox related threads youd think I am anti Microsoft. it's all down to which threads you frequent and, for some, their biased Interpretation of posts

It was really funny the other day when I was shitting on Sony's gift card fiasco and then a poster in another thread accused me of never finding fault with Sony "no matter what". The timing was a bit hilarious. Obviously I am a fan of Sony games and I love Naughty Dog every bit as much as you hate them. Ideally that should be fine. Just opinions.
 

Topher

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it's not that straight forward either. I always get accused of being an Xbox fanboy for example, as soon as I say anythbad about anything Sony related... but I shit on Microsoft stuff for days on end and get no such accusations for the opposite... it's weird.

so I wouldn't trust anyone's opinion on here either when it comes to classifying someone as a console warrior.

I think I get that label often because I am very direct with that I think about certain games and I also often do not align with what the mainstream thinks.

example, I absolutely hate Naughty Dog and anything their game design philosophy stands for. I think their games are a joke... terribly designed mainstream fodder for 50yo casual gamer dads.
that got me into hot water at times...
yet I also fucking hate 343i with every fiber of my being, and make no secret of it... that somehow is way less controversial even tho I say even worse things about them.

so if you only are in Sony related threds you'd think I am a Microsoft fanboy, while in many Xbox related threads youd think I am anti Microsoft. it's all down to which threads you frequent and, for some, their biased Interpretation of posts
It's pretty obvious why it's more controvertial to absolute hate ND then to hate 343i.
 

DarkMage619

Member
You are saying that if I state the fact that the PS5 GPU has 10.28 teraflops then I will be banned for two weeks? Seriously?
Say it has less than that and see what happens. 😉 Interestingly I don't think saying it has 10000 TF or that the SSD improves the graphics of the system nets you any reprimand. It's quite curious.
 

GymWolf

Gold Member
It's pretty obvious why it's more controvertial to absolute hate ND then to hate 343i.
And it still doesn't deserve a warning because it is an opinion.

I think that writing, stories and characters in ND games goes from super derivative to absolute trash, from unchy to tlou.

Does that deserve a warning?
 
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Vognerful

Member
Let's just be honest here, the mods are totally rubbish and are biased based.

We need a new mod team, My suggestions would be Riky Riky Bo_Hazem Bo_Hazem Bernd Lauert Bernd Lauert and Ass of Can Whooping Ass of Can Whooping .

We could then give EviLore EviLore the boot, then unban Byrant and he could be the leader.

This place would be a modern-day utopia.

Then we could vanquish all Liverpool people and cat lovers. "lollipop_disappointed:






Ps Riky Riky and Bernd Lauert Bernd Lauert , shameful you guys are not gold yet. SHAMEFUL
add Rivet Rivet to mixture there to have some unbiased opinion.
 
Let's just be honest here, the mods are totally rubbish and are biased based.

We need a new mod team, My suggestions would be Riky Riky Bo_Hazem Bo_Hazem Bernd Lauert Bernd Lauert and Ass of Can Whooping Ass of Can Whooping .

We could then give EviLore EviLore the boot, then unban Byrant and he could be the leader.

This place would be a modern-day utopia.

Then we could vanquish all Liverpool people and cat lovers. "lollipop_disappointed:






Ps Riky Riky and Bernd Lauert Bernd Lauert , shameful you guys are not gold yet. SHAMEFUL

I have a new idea for bans. All users will be sent to a thread with me in it and won't be able to post anywhere else unless I clean out their bungholes.

That should be more effective than a ban IMO.
 
And it still doesn't deserve a warning because it is an opinion.

I think that writing, stories and characters in ND games goes from super derivative to absolute trash, from unchy to tlou.

Does that deserve a warning?
It deserves an intervention. If the story on ND games is so bad to justify such a poor reaction I wonder what games you are playing, the story and narrative in most games sucks, ND games are well above average.
 
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