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Jim Ryan says Sony’s games ‘could suffer’ by adding them to PlayStation Plus on day one (VCG)

Lognor

Banned
Its because, the contract didn't cover that. She was supposed to be paid for the theater cut. But Disney broke the contract by putting it on the service.

Its like MS making a timed exclusive contract, but decides to put the game on gamepass.

Its not just upfront money.
Whatever it was, we saw how WB remedied this situation with Wonder Woman and other films released day one on HBO. Disney should have had that conversation with the filmmakers on Black Widow before releasing it on Disney Plus

They can renegotiate, you know?

We've seen a ton of day one film releases across Disney Plus and HBO. It's clearly possible.

Either way, I think we both agree that comparing PS+ to Disney is a poor comparison.
 

kingfey

Banned
Whatever it was, we saw how WB remedied this situation with Wonder Woman and other films released day one on HBO. Disney should have had that conversation with the filmmakers on Black Widow before releasing it on Disney Plus

They can renegotiate, you know?

We've seen a ton of day one film releases across Disney Plus and HBO. It's clearly possible.

Either way, I think we both agree that comparing PS+ to Disney is a poor comparison.
Its Disney. They don't negotiate like WB.

When you have the 3 most beloved franchises in the world, you will be drunk on power.
 

8BiTw0LF

Gold Member
Disney is still making shows for the service.
Movies have contract issues. Disney can't put them there for free.
They got sued for putting black widow on the service.
Not a good comparison. Disney is still putting certain movies day one on Disney Plus. I doubt Sony will do that. And that is not considering the tv shows made for Disney Plus. Sony is not comparable at all.

Oh, Sony will also add content for the service, just not their own (as we know of), but there's a slight chance some of their live service games will be "free" on the platform and they'll probably add more retro games along the way.

We all know how Sony operates. They put something out with bare minimum info - listens to the community and makes something people are happy with. +700 games tho' - that's a lot of games.
 

phil_t98

Gold Member
I think you guys have no ideia how Gamepass revenue works.
Let's clear here.

When you put a game on Gamepass you expected to receive a parcel of the revenue subs based in how much people played your game (there is the very few exceptions that MS pays upfront but that is not how the actually works for 99% of the games there).
That is very little parcel but it come every month while the subscribers are playing your game.

To cover a $200m budget it can take months or even years... at the end the revenue from the subscription can even surpass the one of full priced sales if the game have continuous subscribers playing it for years.

But you invested $200m... you can't wait months or years to recover it... you have to already recovered and profit to invest in a new project.
So with full priced sales you have that... you pay your costs at launch windows and already accumulate funds to the next project.
You can set high budget because you know you will get it fast in the launch window (if not your made a failure).

With subscription having the game at day one you need to plan different.... you set lower budget target because you know it will take time to recover it.

If you kill decrease the number of full priced sales then you need to invest less in your games and so you have a different approach in development... the most time the subscriber keep playing your game more you will receive per month and you want them to play that game near forever... and that add mechanics that keep you playing it... that is why GAAS is better fit for subscription services with low investiment.

When you plan a big AAA budget game you target a number of sales at full price to cover all costs... it is a near term plan... you delivery, you recoup, you start to dev again, delivery, recoup, etc.
Subscription is a long term.... you need time waiting the game recoup.

You also
Forget it’s their own service and they get a bigger cut so when it’s their own games going on there they can take more for it. They would make up for it.
 

MHubert

Member
Where do you think that the funding for Sonys first party studios comes from? It is from Sony. The studios probably get bonuses when their games are finished, but the running costs and everything else which equates to the cost of the game comes from Sony lol

Sonys warchest pays for everything, and everything is theirs.


That was a silly question and I should have removed it.
No as I said before, even if sony owns them, the studios are still considered businesses in their own right, also economically
 

Kazza

Member
 
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