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Kotaku: Lost Ark's Depiction Of Female Characters Feels A Decade Out Of Date
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Coolwhhip
Neophyte
Yeah, we are only helping them now. They probably know how dumb they are themselves, but clicks above all.
GymWolf
Member
That's a huge clit.Kotaku’s dream woman:
Bragr
Banned
You don't think women like to play with sexualized women? in my experience, they are more into dressing up and picking the hottest female characters than most of the guys. Kotaku seems to have this idea that women want to play as Aloy or some other cow-looking creature in every game.
It’s already in its cringe phase
Coolwhhip
Neophyte
Indeed. My ex was into Wow and her favourite past time was putting together skimpy outfits.
strange headache
Banned
Kotaku's prudism has been out of date since the 50s.
Doesn't keep them from publishing trash articles though.
Buggy Loop
Member
As cringe as I find Korean female models are (I just like things a bit more serious and grounded in reality than say Xenoblade 2 titties, but I really don’t care if some peoples want that), if you’re a female twitch streamer farming the pockets of simps because of your looks, please kindly STFU on this subject.
mortal
Gold Member
How can it feel like it's "out of date" when the developers are going for a specific presentation, with an emphasis on sexy & cool design language?
If this is considered out of date, then what exactly is the end goal?
The sex appeal is obviously intentionally exaggerated, much like the power fantasy elements are.
Funnily enough, I rarely ever see people making this argument have any qualms with the sexualization of male characters in games.
There is plenty of room for all manner of character designs to exist in the industry, so long as they appeal to their respective audiences, I do not see the issue here.
Considering the popularity of Lost Ark, the vast majority of players would disagree with the opinion of this so-called journalist at Kotaku.
It sounds like this person is trying to pass off their personal tastes as an authoritative standard or ideal that all games must adhere to.
Which is always annoying, regardless of their ideological persuasions.
If this is considered out of date, then what exactly is the end goal?
The sex appeal is obviously intentionally exaggerated, much like the power fantasy elements are.
Funnily enough, I rarely ever see people making this argument have any qualms with the sexualization of male characters in games.
There is plenty of room for all manner of character designs to exist in the industry, so long as they appeal to their respective audiences, I do not see the issue here.
Considering the popularity of Lost Ark, the vast majority of players would disagree with the opinion of this so-called journalist at Kotaku.
It sounds like this person is trying to pass off their personal tastes as an authoritative standard or ideal that all games must adhere to.
Which is always annoying, regardless of their ideological persuasions.
The Pleasure
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Furiousrunt
Member
Where's that Taken 2 running gif?
Arcadialane
Member
Going to have to check it out now
Please respect other cultures!
Not every culture fantasizes about playing a haggard, mentally ill, obese woman in leggings who don’t need no man. Nor is every culture in the grip of nihilistic self-destruction.
Some cultures can even understand that fantasy depictions do not have to correlate with any real world counterpart and that if you don’t like a thing, it is fine for that thing to exist beyond your purview.
Not every culture fantasizes about playing a haggard, mentally ill, obese woman in leggings who don’t need no man. Nor is every culture in the grip of nihilistic self-destruction.
Some cultures can even understand that fantasy depictions do not have to correlate with any real world counterpart and that if you don’t like a thing, it is fine for that thing to exist beyond your purview.
ManaByte
Gold Member
What does Kotaku think of a streamer straddling an inflatable banana in a wading pool while wearing a bikini and writing simps' names on their arms?
Furiousrunt
Member
Big clit energy
Last Prime
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Portugeezer
Member
How it feels to read Kotaku
FrozenFlame
Member
I'll just say the walk animation is just looks dumb in general.
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Umbasaborne
Banned
Bunch of fucking cry babies over at that site
GooseMan69
Member
It really doesn’t matter. Their site brings in no revenue and never really has. It’s basically a charity for game journalists.
Fbh
Member
And yet:
It....it's almost as if Kotaku, Polygon, Resetera and pink/blue haired people on Twitter are just a loud minority that's never been representative of the gaming community at large, and whose opinions have no impact on the success of a game.
Will Lost Ark be the game that finally proves this to executives, studio heads and investors? Sadly, probably not.
It....it's almost as if Kotaku, Polygon, Resetera and pink/blue haired people on Twitter are just a loud minority that's never been representative of the gaming community at large, and whose opinions have no impact on the success of a game.
Will Lost Ark be the game that finally proves this to executives, studio heads and investors? Sadly, probably not.
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Those videos are funny though. The animation is over the top stupid. We can admit that too right?
Stuart360
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If thats what the devs wanted then its all good by me. There is nothing wrong with it, if you think it looks silly just laugh it off. It really doesnt matter.
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GooseMan69
Member
Yes it is but as another poster pointed out, the pendulum has swung so far in the other direction that it’s almost refreshing to see.
Laughing at funny = good.
Laughing at stupid = good
Feigning moral superiority = not so good, but still a treasure trove for people who laugh at funny and stupid
artsi
Member
And yet:
It....it's almost as if Kotaku, Polygon, Resetera and pink/blue haired people on Twitter are just a loud minority that's never been representative of the gaming community at large, and whose opinions have no impact on the success of a game.
Will Lost Ark be the game that finally proves this to executives, studios heads and investors? Sadly, probably not.
1,134,618 misogynists and bigots - according to certain people.
Edgelord79
Gold Member
Sounds problematic...
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
I've learned to ignore the bolded people for the most part. To me, we need "some" people like that just to maintain balance. Even if most ignore them, I like that they exist to some degree. A broken clock is right twice a day (though I don't think they are right with this issue though).
Dream-Knife
Banned
I can't wait until society turns on these idiots.
GooseMan69
Member
It’s funny how women will often embrace these “sexualized” female characters like Quiet, while the only people who complain are some blue checkmark neckbeard loser dudes.
People like sexy characters, male and female.
People like sexy characters, male and female.
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Vaelka
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Imagine believing that every game in existence needs to cater to you.
Y'all who don't like the female characters in Lost Ark already got like almost every game catered to you already.
Just grow the fuck up and play something else.
Edit: Also I am getting really tired of anything overtly feminine gets demonized, no one bitches about guys walking with their chest puffed up to the heavens like they've got a stick up their ass and are being pushed forward by their muscles.
The female characters in this game basically walk like models, I fail to see what the problem with it is.
It's just annoying how you can always push masculinity as far as you want but if you do it with femininty people immediately start bitching about it.
Y'all who don't like the female characters in Lost Ark already got like almost every game catered to you already.
Just grow the fuck up and play something else.
Edit: Also I am getting really tired of anything overtly feminine gets demonized, no one bitches about guys walking with their chest puffed up to the heavens like they've got a stick up their ass and are being pushed forward by their muscles.
The female characters in this game basically walk like models, I fail to see what the problem with it is.
It's just annoying how you can always push masculinity as far as you want but if you do it with femininty people immediately start bitching about it.
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they are fine with that because it's only bad if the character is a feminine woman.
Deerock71
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captainpat
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The outfits are fine but yea that walk animations a little silly. I've me some hip-swaying but not like their walking on stilts though.
Vaelka
Member
This game has skimpy armor for male characters too.
Can we fucking stop pretending like male characters don't also run into battle half-naked all the time in games?
If anything there's more half-naked men in Western games around nowadays.
But no one complains when it's some dude allergic to shirts running around on a battlefield with arrows flying around.
Huevos de Oro
Member
It's bigger than my dong.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Okay those walk/run animations are pretty stupid.
MightySquirrel
Banned
"The Walk of Life" by Yasmeen Ghauri
VS
"The Zombie Walk"
I'll take outdated tyvm.
that running animation though
and F kuntaku
VS
"The Zombie Walk"
I'll take outdated tyvm.
that running animation though
and F kuntaku
Kagey K
Banned
This is the second thread you have wholesale lifted from Era today.
I gave you the benefit of the doubt and thought maybe, you were the OP in that thread. If you want to have those discussions here, at least make the threads your own or pick different quotes.
I don't want to see this place start looking like an Era copycat.
www.resetera.com
I gave you the benefit of the doubt and thought maybe, you were the OP in that thread. If you want to have those discussions here, at least make the threads your own or pick different quotes.
I don't want to see this place start looking like an Era copycat.
Kotaku: Lost Ark's Depiction Of Female Characters Feels A Decade Out Of Date
https://kotaku.com/lost-ark-female-characters-women-heels-skimpy-clothing-1848535666 Lost Ark is a lot of fun. I’ve played hours and hours of it and I’m excited to play more. However, the latest smash hit on Steam is facing criticism for how it portrays its female characters. Specifically, the...
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
I think we can all agree, character creation needs to have a butt-waggle slider so you can customize this shit. If you want a woman (or dude) who walks around like a sexy dominatrix, you can have it. If you want one that runs like a football player, you can have that too.
Lol now I want to make a dude who looks like a lumberjack but struts his stuff like Ru Paul
Lol now I want to make a dude who looks like a lumberjack but struts his stuff like Ru Paul
Punished Miku
Gold Member
Personally I don't care. 1/10th of the effort. 10x the openness in conversation. They copied everything from here.This is the second thread you have wholesale lifted from Era today.
I gave you the benefit of the doubt and thought maybe, you were the OP in that thread. If you want to have those discussions here, at least make the threads your own or pick different quotes.
I don't want to see this place start looking like an Era copycat.
Kotaku: Lost Ark's Depiction Of Female Characters Feels A Decade Out Of Date
https://kotaku.com/lost-ark-female-characters-women-heels-skimpy-clothing-1848535666 Lost Ark is a lot of fun. I’ve played hours and hours of it and I’m excited to play more. However, the latest smash hit on Steam is facing criticism for how it portrays its female characters. Specifically, the...
Dream-Knife
Banned
fart town usa
Gold Member
"Free-to-play action MMORPG"
And they still bitch.
And they still bitch.
Vaelka
Member
In all honesty I just think people need to get the fuck over themselves.
You're not entitled to always have a choice and I am getting really tired of these kinds of people who are so incapable of dealing with having something they dislike exist.
I personally really love the female characters in Lost Ark, animations included.
And I really don't like most male characters in games, they're something I put up with rather than enjoy the same goes with most female characters in Western games.
The difference is that I don't act like it's a crime against humanity that they exist.
It's just so tiresome that this has to be a conversation literally every single time, it was the same with the Project EVE trailer.
And what makes it even more frustrating is that whenever I ask for more feminine options people jump down my throat and throw every stereotypical insult my way.
But then these same people will sit around shit-talking stuff like this it's so one-sided.
The difference is that I barely have any options that I like in games while people who dislike these characters have almost every game and character nowadays catered to them.
The notion that there needs to be like a modesty toggle option and an option for different animations just reeks of entitlement imo.
To me it's like me saying that in TLOU and HZD or Assassins Creed Valhalla there needs to be an option to turn the female characters into like in Lost Ark.
It's like why are these people more deserving of an option just because this one game doesn't cater to them and why wouldn't I be for games that don't cater to me ( which again is most )?
No one is entitled to an option, the devs decided that this was what they wanted to make and they made it that's it end of story.
People can decide to not play it or play it.
Ammogeddon
Member
They’re full of shit.
Have a quick look at their Bayonetta 2 review and you’ll see they have double standards. Yes it’s an older game, but hey we’re happy to muck rake peoples Twitter accounts from years ago.
https://kotaku.com/what-if-you-could-feel-good-all-the-time-thats-the-q-1645599059/amp
But you know, if it plays great who cares?…..right Kotaku.
Have a quick look at their Bayonetta 2 review and you’ll see they have double standards. Yes it’s an older game, but hey we’re happy to muck rake peoples Twitter accounts from years ago.
https://kotaku.com/what-if-you-could-feel-good-all-the-time-thats-the-q-1645599059/amp
But you know, if it plays great who cares?…..right Kotaku.
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