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Lead Writer Sam Maggs confirms that Rivet is canonically a lesbian
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ResilientBanana
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Gaming is an escape from everyday life. Why this information even matters in a video game is beyond me, especially if it's not pivotal to the story. Also, leave my kid's out of it, they don't need to be weaponized for someone else's agenda.
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Shifty1897
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When she cries in meetings about a video game character being cut 
Kuranghi
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If you meet me IRL all the actions I take and things that I say make it seem like I'm straight, but I'm actually canonically a lesbian.
Exactly, imagine how many male/sane developers through the years have had characters they created and loved for years cut well into development for a myriad of reasons, what do you think the chance is that they cried for hours in their offices about it? Or walked around the office shouting crass words and making everyone feel uncomfortable.
These sorts of people need to be dragged out of the premises by the arm/ear and have their access cards cut up in front of them, bye bitch!
When she cries in meetings about a video game character being cut
Exactly, imagine how many male/sane developers through the years have had characters they created and loved for years cut well into development for a myriad of reasons, what do you think the chance is that they cried for hours in their offices about it? Or walked around the office shouting crass words and making everyone feel uncomfortable.
These sorts of people need to be dragged out of the premises by the arm/ear and have their access cards cut up in front of them, bye bitch!
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Cert.in.Death
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PhaseJump
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It's worse than that. I mean, Resetera be damned. Compelled speech around pronoun use has been tabled in an effort to become a legal requirement with consequences in Ontario, where the lunatic writer here hails from.
NonPhixion
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Being upset that a fictional Alien reassembles a woman but then saying it's sexual preference is that of one many women share is most back asswards shit I've heard. It's a fictional alien.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
A legal requirement? What would the consequences be?
Does this mean I can demand people refer to me as 'Lord and Saviour' because this is my preferred 'pronoun' or 'title'?
Hell, this may also have consequences with people adopting the Dr title when they aren't even Doctors.
Kdad
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$30,000 award for misuse of gender pronouns
Ontario human rights case 'important reminder that employers should respect employees' wishes'
www.hrreporter.com
Jesus wept. The problems faced in the first world are so very real. Unfortunately everyone is now a precious snowflake.$30,000 award for misuse of gender pronouns
Ontario human rights case 'important reminder that employers should respect employees' wishes'
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Ceadeus
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This GIF should appear on every thread, I damn can't get enough of it
I hope Insomniac will get in trouble for hiring this SJW social predator that is Sam Maggs, who became famous for being on TV saying she was raped in GTA (yeah that's her).
There should be more serious consequences for studios hiring toxic, unstable and entitled SJW without merit, so I'll support her on Twitter so that Insomniac gets into trouble.
There should be more serious consequences for studios hiring toxic, unstable and entitled SJW without merit, so I'll support her on Twitter so that Insomniac gets into trouble.
Doomtrain
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I hate this notion this lady has of "I didn't get my way, so I spent every day crying at the office." "They didn't design the character how I wanted, so my boss is a misogynist."
This idea of "someone didn't implement my idea/design a character how I wanted/etc., THEREFORE SEXISM" is so dumb. That's not how working on a large-scale project works. On any given game, you're working with a team of anywhere from a dozen to several hundred other people. Every single day, many of those people are going to have and pitch various ideas. The director's job is to be the primary vision-holder of the project, and they have the final say on which ideas make the cut or not. I've personally worked on games where I've pitched ideas that I sincerely loved and carefully thought through, and the director shot them down, and that's fine and normal.
It could be for any number of reasons: maybe the director just didn't like the idea as much as I did. Maybe we didn't have the time or the budget to implement it. Maybe it didn't fit the director's vision for the game. Maybe it conflicted with other aspects of the project. Maybe the director just listened to ten other people pitch ideas, and they just currently have more important work to do that doesn't involve humoring everyone else on the team. Sometimes it's worth fighting for those ideas, and sometimes not. At the end of the day, it's no one's call BUT the director's, and if you're not the director, you shouldn't expect every one of your ideas to make the cut.
On a AAA game with hundreds of people involved, on any given day, the director is likely listening to, and having to reject, dozens of random ideas from various people. This is normal and it's the only possible way game development could function. This idea that suddenly, it's a problem if a woman's idea gets rejected, and that it somehow means sexism is happening, is delusional and shows a huge lack of understanding as to how games are actually made. COULD it be sexism if a woman doesn't get heard? Sure, it's possible. Sexism does exist and shitty directors exist. But on average, in an environment where dozens of men are also having ideas rejected every single day, it's not the first conclusion anyone should jump to.
This idea of "someone didn't implement my idea/design a character how I wanted/etc., THEREFORE SEXISM" is so dumb. That's not how working on a large-scale project works. On any given game, you're working with a team of anywhere from a dozen to several hundred other people. Every single day, many of those people are going to have and pitch various ideas. The director's job is to be the primary vision-holder of the project, and they have the final say on which ideas make the cut or not. I've personally worked on games where I've pitched ideas that I sincerely loved and carefully thought through, and the director shot them down, and that's fine and normal.
It could be for any number of reasons: maybe the director just didn't like the idea as much as I did. Maybe we didn't have the time or the budget to implement it. Maybe it didn't fit the director's vision for the game. Maybe it conflicted with other aspects of the project. Maybe the director just listened to ten other people pitch ideas, and they just currently have more important work to do that doesn't involve humoring everyone else on the team. Sometimes it's worth fighting for those ideas, and sometimes not. At the end of the day, it's no one's call BUT the director's, and if you're not the director, you shouldn't expect every one of your ideas to make the cut.
On a AAA game with hundreds of people involved, on any given day, the director is likely listening to, and having to reject, dozens of random ideas from various people. This is normal and it's the only possible way game development could function. This idea that suddenly, it's a problem if a woman's idea gets rejected, and that it somehow means sexism is happening, is delusional and shows a huge lack of understanding as to how games are actually made. COULD it be sexism if a woman doesn't get heard? Sure, it's possible. Sexism does exist and shitty directors exist. But on average, in an environment where dozens of men are also having ideas rejected every single day, it's not the first conclusion anyone should jump to.
Kiddo Cabbusses
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This is giving me flashbacks to when Ken Penders was allegedly trying to write Rotor as gay in the Archie Sonic comics.
CGiRanger
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God. If i was her manager, I would have fired her for being an emotional wreck if she was constantly going about crying in the office.
and would have been 100% in the right to do so, since being an emotional wreck is not a protected class, and she is a self-serving attention whore and a distraction to the team.
and would have been 100% in the right to do so, since being an emotional wreck is not a protected class, and she is a self-serving attention whore and a distraction to the team.
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BusierDonkey
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Maybe the next Ratchet game will ditch him entirely and feature Rivet's scissor sister! They can fashion Clank into a strap-on!
Silver Wattle
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So odd that a single person involved in the creation of a character thinks they are the sole decision maker over said characters attributes, she sounds delusional.
SenjutsuSage
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So this is how the magic happens.
Javthusiast
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It is freeing not to follow all this shit on twitter and instead only use it for lewd cosplayers and artists. My notifications are nothing but culture.
HoofHearted
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daffyduck
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I’ll see your Tobey Maguire, and raise you:This GIF should appear on every thread, I damn can't get enough of it
HoofHearted
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I’ll see your Tobey Maguire, and raise you:
Aaron Olive
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“Lead Writer Sam Maggs confirms that Rivet is canonically a lesbian”
Why though?? Its a Game for kids, and from further reading about her Twitter spiel she needs to go away from the keyboard and writing, she be ego cray cray.
Why though?? Its a Game for kids, and from further reading about her Twitter spiel she needs to go away from the keyboard and writing, she be ego cray cray.
Mibu no ookami
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Banned at the other site for quoting their tweets. Was said to be trolling.
spookyfish
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Wow. This is “JK Rowling reveals that you, the reader, were gay all along.” territory.
remember_spinal
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I saw that coming
Dr. Claus
Vincit qui se vincit
And nothing of value was lost. Welcome to the realm of sanity, pal.
hemo memo
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Okay should we cancel scientists until they add an extra chromosome also? They must add colors to it also and focused dark blue.
StreetsofBeige
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If you google her, she's a big time supporter of gay and lesbian rights. She's openly bi too.
Well you know how it goes for loud political people. Got to stake a claim regarding personal politics to boost their mindset.
remember_spinal
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Does anyone think about the kids anymore? First Sponge Bob and now this? I fear for humanities future, even more so now.
Maybe leave it up to the players interpretation? like a good novel? Eventually these type of things lose their impact on the masses. Some hills are worth dying on, this isn't one of them.
Maybe leave it up to the players interpretation? like a good novel? Eventually these type of things lose their impact on the masses. Some hills are worth dying on, this isn't one of them.
Davevil
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Enter in ERA with a proud smile in your face
SeraphJan
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What's next Mario is gay? Link is bisexual?
I have nothing against LGBT, but why are they trying to gain attention so much more than they needed? To the point even these cartoony video game character can't escape their agenda.
My comment is probably going to get myself banned in place like ResetEra, but whatever, a place that does not respect my freedom of speech does not worth my time.
This feeling of afraid of speaking ones own mind in a honest way, reminds my of "thought crime" in Soviet Communism, and this feeling is terrifying.
I have nothing against LGBT, but why are they trying to gain attention so much more than they needed? To the point even these cartoony video game character can't escape their agenda.
My comment is probably going to get myself banned in place like ResetEra, but whatever, a place that does not respect my freedom of speech does not worth my time.
This feeling of afraid of speaking ones own mind in a honest way, reminds my of "thought crime" in Soviet Communism, and this feeling is terrifying.
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arkhamguy123
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We need our cartoon hamsters to have sexual orientation specified now?
StreetsofBeige
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I’m waiting for Tommy Tallarico to tell gamers whether the Intellivision running man is gay.
There’s got to be some video gaming sexuality activist employee needing to specify for the gaming community that info.
And when that is told, all gamers can breathe a sigh of relief with morale boosted +10 pts.
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tassletine
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I'm the same. Like it matters anyway. Completely superficial given that they're videogame characters and alien animals to boot.
Nothing "idea" doesn't get listened to because it's nothing. Lady fights for nothing. Harasses her employers by crying at her desk over nothing.
Still complains about her idea like it's meaningful to try and harass her employers over nothing. Talk about digging in.
Imagine crying about that, imagine admitting you cried over your desk about the gender of a made up alien videogame character, even after it was successful.
She has nothing to offer. I can't believe these people are even employed.
Guilhermegrg
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Lunarorbit
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I mean I think people were always jacking it to Minnie mouse.
Not me of course, but people.
Papacheeks
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Actually a lot of them are seeing now Maggs was kind of all about herself, and some of them are developers on era or know the medium well that its not about one person's view but a collaborative effort. She wanted her politics and view points to shine in the character. Rest of the studio disagreed. End of story.
But she makes it out like she is the victim, and now that other people at the studio have spoken up it's now apparent she was shouting loud to get her way. Nothing was lost. Glad the studio stood their ground. And them standing their ground does not make it a toxic place to work like Era thinks it is.
NOTICE no one at Insomniac is talking about ERA nor anyone who was on ERA from the studio is saying shit.
Yeah noticed that after few pages when an Insomniac developer explained who gave the name and defended the lead designer, Maggs and the other two are rude and you can notice by the style these people write their tweets, they are showing to be mean people who wants to scream their way to get their ideas approved, this is toxic culture.
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Dick Jones
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There was still the passive aggressive nature towards the developer who Maggs chastised for using the word derp in their own bio describing themselves, and referenced her in later tweets as an intern. She's not an intern and she would have seen it as its written beside derp it said she is a dev.
The non asshole is the one still in a job. Funny how that works.
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