James Sawyer Ford
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Marvel's Spider Man 2 Gameplay Revealed - Releases Fall 2023 | PlayStation Showcase
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Astray
Gold Member
Spiderman remastered is not a PS4 game, the comparison is misleading a bit imo.
ProtoByte
Member
Its not a generational visual upgrade, but that video shows and explains that there actually has been a significant visual boost here. Pretending like the environment alone hasn't received an upgrade is laughable.
TheGodfather07
Member
I would wait until actual release but it was underwhelming for PS5 only. Forbidden west looks better and that's a cross gen game. Naughty dog where are you? If they don't impress us, then i would really start to worry.
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GymWolf
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The writing seems worse than spidey ps4 tbh.
Miles:that thing has huge teeth
Spidey: so am i (or something like that)
What? This is worse than angrboring and dipshit forest section...the fat asian friend with the stupid name didn't helped at all...
Also, I hate that i have to play with the chipmunk once again, just let me play with peter all the time...
Miles:that thing has huge teeth
Spidey: so am i (or something like that)
What? This is worse than angrboring and dipshit forest section...the fat asian friend with the stupid name didn't helped at all...
Also, I hate that i have to play with the chipmunk once again, just let me play with peter all the time...
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Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
I can already see that I won't like this game much cuz it's + - the same as original (But with worse visuals? Serioursly, it does not look very good) minus new powers etc. I mean, I'd love to see and experiences the story cuz it was the best part of original game, but if it means that I have to grind my way through boring and extremely prolonged fights with the same exact dudes the whole game millions of times, if I have to deal with boring and cringe side quest again... I'll just effin' wait for a year or two to get the game for at least 50% cheaper and with all DLCs on one disc.
I also don't have a lot of hope when it comes to their Wolverine game.
I also don't have a lot of hope when it comes to their Wolverine game.
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Feel Like I'm On 42
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Most people are casuals with low standards
Silver Wattle
Gold Member
Looks good ok, apart from the lighting/shadows.
The scenes in the water were not impressive.
The scenes in the water were not impressive.
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hyperbertha
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Any significant generational/systemic leap in gameplay won't be locked away behind an upgrade my dude. It would manifest within the core gameplay loop. If there was anything exciting to show, they would have shown it in their most important reveal.
Infested Goblin
Member
Maybe graphics are almost the same as spiderman 1 but at least we are getting QTE the game with ubisoft's collectibles clusterfuck open world with batman arkham asylum combat, hype through the roof
When people were expecting this to be actual gameplay, especially the fog/smoke volumetrics and fantastic reflections and GI it was always going to end up a shitshow when they showed the actual game. They shouldn't have set expectations with those images/videos, anyone with even a small clue about how expensive the fog and smoke effects would be from a rendering perspective in those could see it wasn't gameplay.I agree with you. But I would have been okay with not having a big gameplay upgrade, if the game looked like this.....
Nankatsu
Member
Guess they're saving the better version for PS5 Pro?
Guess they're saving the better version for PS5 Pro?
You can see improvements here and there, sure, but those types of improvements would only be acceptable if the game wasn't being developed on new hardware.
Guess they're saving the better version for PS5 Pro?
You can see improvements here and there, sure, but those types of improvements would only be acceptable if the game wasn't being developed on new hardware.
Roufianos
Member
Looks like more of the same, which is fine. We're way passed the era of generational leaps.
The dialogue though is absolutely dreadful, 'I've got the metal murder bird'.
Funny how this will get a pass but Forspoken, Saints Row and Atomic Heart got called out.
And to think, Insomniac used to be pretty funny.
The dialogue though is absolutely dreadful, 'I've got the metal murder bird'.
Funny how this will get a pass but Forspoken, Saints Row and Atomic Heart got called out.
And to think, Insomniac used to be pretty funny.
Coulomb_Barrier
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Graphically some parts looked incredible, other parts I expect them to revamp by release in 5 months time a la FF16.
But the whole two playable Spiderman thing is going to catch fire with the mainstream in a big way.
But the whole two playable Spiderman thing is going to catch fire with the mainstream in a big way.
GymWolf
Member
It never looked so mindblowing to be completely impossible, cmon, people were actually expecting something even better than that.
It was not pathtraced cyberpunk or even close to that.
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Physiognomonics
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I remember being wowed by the first showing of Battlefront running on PS4. And that was with a compressed 720p youtube feed.
His first sentence I won't even dignify with a response. With the second statement about additional work and wizardry, why not provide gameplay trailer that includes these great things?
I am sorry but if you need OLED + HDR + big native 4K screen to really show off your game's graphics, then you failed.
Nankatsu
Member
The water was way worse than arkham knight water
How the fuck do you go from hfw water to spidey 2 water?
And i bet my left testicle that hfw is a much bigger game than spidey 2 is ever gonna be if spidey 1 is anything to go by.
Good question.
And I like how in the first game we were discussing puddles, and now we are discussing the entire river.
That's a true next-gen leap right there.
GymWolf
Member
They know that reeeee offer them a protective bubble, they don't have the spine to hear the truth from people with actual nextgen standards.
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Youre delusional, a hater who was never interested in the game. The game is clearly a massive leap. Kudos insominiac for focusing on what matters gameplay fuck the push for fidelity, games are too difficult to make already give me good gameplay and 60fps...these are legit posts from the same thread. No wonder the devs have lost touch living in a yes-man bubble.
This is coming from a fan of the studio ratchet and ps4 spiderman were very impressive.
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ChiefDada
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Precisely. I saw rift apart on the livestream. The crappy resolution and compression couldn't hide the fact that it was a generational leap. And I bet he didn't make this comment for Ratchet. Because there was no need to.
While I agree if we are speaking in general like could you do this on the fastest gaming hardware currently available, yeh RTX racer says maybe we could even though that seems to have gone missing. But I was more looking at it from what could the hardware in the ps5 do. The GI and Reflections looked possible with some downgrades like 1/4 resolution reflections and maybe 1 bounce GI like cyberpunk psycho RT though probably not together, but no the fog volumetrics in those images are not matched by anything in cyberpunk overdrive mode.
Thirty7ven
Banned
Spidey 2 looks good don’t know what else to tell ya. You’re disappointed with the graphics ok.
Just because the showcase was shit I’m not gonna dog on all the games.
not at all the tools used to make this where procedural and it was done with a very small team to prove how fast you can generate stuff like this in Unreal 5 on a budget.
I don't even have to. I am sure they did.
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Vindicator
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Expected more from the hype, but havent finished a Spiderman anyway.
Was just wondering about that Horizon guy from the intro (not much into Marvel stuff).
Was just wondering about that Horizon guy from the intro (not much into Marvel stuff).
I think cutscenes take alot longer to author than gameplay.
It speeds up more for Indie devs who are far more reliant on Quixel. In fact the main speed up ..up until recently has been the Quixel Library.
GymWolf
Member
I mean, zelda tokt on switch has volumetric fog, arkham knight had volumetric smoke that reacted to movemments, sh2 is gonna have interactive fog, it can't be that hard to have good fog in 2023...
GymWolf
Member
I expect polygon or kotaku to wrote 10.000 word article on the subject.
Is kraven ok for modern audiences? Written by Puss mcwoke.
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IlGialloMondadori
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The environments / lighting looking way off from this, looking pretty much exactly like Miles and Spiderman Remastered, really put a downer on the showing.I agree with you. But I would have been okay with not having a big gameplay upgrade, if the game looked like this.....
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mrmustard
Banned
Nobody kills you, you're only dead to Spider-Man fans now!
Plus was hoping it was gonna be a spiderman game, it looks like it gonna be spiderman and miles morales,plus then prob have u controlling a drone and then mary jane and peter parker and miles and miles friend,i want a spiderman game where i just play as spiderman, enjoyed both last games but wish they had kept them separate, dont think im as hyped after seeing showcase yesterday as i was, looks like spiderman 1.5
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Astray
Gold Member
The lack of pop-in even when traversing at very high speeds was super impressive imo.
Also for some reason people want a "generational leap" when they are comparing things to an existing PS5 game? (Spiderman Remastered)
You got the leap in two steps instead of one here.
Loxus
Member
And you're basically providing my point, diminishing returns.Next gen games should look something like this. Nothing in that SpiderMan gameplay demo looks anything remotely like the below. In fact it looks like a slightly upgraded PS4 version of Miles Morales. I won't be surprised if what we were seeing was a cross gen title and I'd be very concerned if its a PS5 exclusive.
Marvel's Spider-Man 1 vs Real Life.
Matrix doesn't look that much better than Marvel's Spider-Man, which looks very close to real life.
You'll really needs to get a reality check.
GymWolf
Member
I'm gonna kill someone if they make me play as miles fat friendo
Moses85
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mrmustard
Banned
Then stop watching trailers and reading threads where the mob bashes it. Simply buy and enjoy in a few months.I am a huge spidey fan too
owandeseis
Member
The team developing this game is the one that made Miles Morales right?
If so, that's 3 years development cycle?
We've been crying because even sequels that recycle a lot take like 5 years to release, and big new IP's take even longer.
There are no miracles on this, we can't have everything, not every game needs to be like last Horizon visuals wise.
If so, that's 3 years development cycle?
We've been crying because even sequels that recycle a lot take like 5 years to release, and big new IP's take even longer.
There are no miracles on this, we can't have everything, not every game needs to be like last Horizon visuals wise.
staticshock
Member
lol here come the fans trying to rationalize this away. From Miles Morale There is NO leap. Infact other than lighting and water, there's actually a downgrade
This doesn't even look better than Legions on the PS4.
No it doesn't, there are ton of games it doesn't look better than like Legion, FH5, Cyberpunk, etc.
Heck it doesn't look better than Legion on PS4 with no raytracing, let alone the PS5/XSX version.
You fans are either blind or ridiculous.
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Nankatsu
Member
Every game should only embrace what's best about Horizion (it's graphics) and leave all the rest behind.
Less woke stuff = better games.
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mcjmetroid
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Hot Take:
Spiderman 1 wasn't all that great., I preferred the open world batman games. It had awful pacing and often bad mission designs( taking on like 12 bosses all at the end of the game at the same time). It looked and controlled great and they clearly spent most of their time on that and that's enough for most people. It did have a very good ending and all that but honestly I thought it was unpolished. Insomniac games do tend to have this issue with me on most of their games. Sunset overdrive - great looking, great controlling - boring missions etc.
I'd be happy here with far better mission designs in the sequel for sure. Graphics were the least of the originals issue, if it looked similar enough I'd be happy.
But honestly the part where he was swinging near the jetskis and it prompted "press Triangle" to basically take the guy off the jetski and it went into a cutscene where he did just that put me off. Where's the gameplay there? Sony games always got made fun of for being overly cinematic and I used to laugh them off but this really is too cinematic.
Spiderman 1 wasn't all that great., I preferred the open world batman games. It had awful pacing and often bad mission designs( taking on like 12 bosses all at the end of the game at the same time). It looked and controlled great and they clearly spent most of their time on that and that's enough for most people. It did have a very good ending and all that but honestly I thought it was unpolished. Insomniac games do tend to have this issue with me on most of their games. Sunset overdrive - great looking, great controlling - boring missions etc.
I'd be happy here with far better mission designs in the sequel for sure. Graphics were the least of the originals issue, if it looked similar enough I'd be happy.
But honestly the part where he was swinging near the jetskis and it prompted "press Triangle" to basically take the guy off the jetski and it went into a cutscene where he did just that put me off. Where's the gameplay there? Sony games always got made fun of for being overly cinematic and I used to laugh them off but this really is too cinematic.
