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Media Create Sales: Week 35, 2016 (Aug 29 - Sep 04)

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
I just think the big factor is that Mario is the one that will get big headlines. Fire Emblem and Animal Crossing will be good earners but Apple wouldn't have featured Fire Emblem on stage.
I guess the question I'd pose to you is if you think they pulled a bunch of people off of Fire Emblem and Animal Crossing to put on Super Mario Run, because otherwise I don't see what the release cycle of those two would have to do with SMR.

Square Enix has released three mobile games a month during the holiday season before. They could totally announce Super Mario Run on stage at this event and still release Animal Crossing in November if they wanted.

I wonder how they plan on expanding the lifespan of the game, considering they want to release a map maker...

I was kind of wondering if they'd just sell additional level packs in the app, but I'm not sure if to interpret the below statement as a reference to a Super Mario Run 2, or if that's just what they consider this first set of levels:

iOS users will be able to download and enjoy a portion of Super Mario Run for free and will be able to enjoy all of the game content available in this release after paying a set purchase price.
 
PREDICTION LEAGUE PERSONA 5 EDITION

[PS4] Hardware (7 days) - 92,000
[PS4] Persona 5 (4 days) - 240,000
[PS3] Persona 5 (4 days) - 85,000
 

Kanann

Member
Predictions:

[PS4] Hardware (7 days) - 90.000
[PS4] Persona 5 (4 days) - 240.000
[PS3] Persona 5 (4 days) - 80.000

Persona 5 500k LTD
 

Mory Dunz

Member
I guess the question I'd pose to you is if you think they pulled a bunch of people off of Fire Emblem and Animal Crossing to put on Super Mario Run, because otherwise I don't see what the release cycle of those two would have to do with SMR.

Square Enix has released three mobile games a month during the holiday season before. They could totally announce Super Mario Run on stage at this event and still release Animal Crossing in November if they wanted.

Even if FE and AC were done, it's hard to see Nintendo releasing 3 big- well, potentially big- games all in the same time frame.

They only seem to do it when it's like a mix of Wii U and 3DS games...but not the same platform.
 

Oregano

Member
I guess the question I'd pose to you is if you think they pulled a bunch of people off of Fire Emblem and Animal Crossing to put on Super Mario Run, because otherwise I don't see what the release cycle of those two would have to do with SMR.

Square Enix has released three mobile games a month during the holiday season before. They could totally announce Super Mario Run on stage at this event and still release Animal Crossing in November if they wanted.



I was kind of wondering if they'd just sell additional level packs in the app, but I'm not sure if to interpret the below statement as a reference to a Super Mario Run 2, or if that's just what they consider this first set of levels:

I imagine it was a publishing decision rather than development. Square Enix's output is much higher than Nintendo's(at present) so releasing two, or three, titles at once is a much different proposition. Nintendo has been known to sit on finished titles for months on their platforms so I imagine they'll be doing similar with their mobile stuff.
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
I imagine it was a publishing decision rather than development. Square Enix's output is much higher than Nintendo's(at present) so releasing two, or three, titles at once is a much different proposition. Nintendo has been known to sit on finished titles for months on their platforms so I imagine they'll be doing similar with their mobile stuff.
But generally speaking, mobile games aren't "finished". That's not really a thing with f2p mobile titles unless they fail.
 

FluxWaveZ

Member
PREDICTION LEAGUE PERSONA 5 EDITION

[PS4] Hardware (7 days) - 80,555
[PS4] Persona 5 (4 days) - 300,000
[PS3] Persona 5 (4 days) - 100,000
 

blu

Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
On a tangential note, Capcom just released a bunch of n3DS-only SNES VCs.

WTF, capcom.
 

Jamix012

Member
PREDICTION LEAGUE PERSONA 5 EDITION

Predict how much these products will sell in the week (from Sep 12 to Sep 18):

[PS4] Hardware (7 days) - 91,000
[PS4] Persona 5 (4 days) - 321,000
[PS3] Persona 5 (4 days) - 98,000
 

horuhe

Member
This week's releases {2016.09.08}

[PS4] Tokyo Xanadu Ex+ <RPG> (Nihon Falcom) (¥6.480)
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[PS4] [XB1] F1 2016 <RCE> (Ubisoft) (¥7.980)

[PSV] Air <ADV> (Prototype) (¥4.800)
 

horuhe

Member
Rakuten Books Sales Ranking (2016.09.08)

01./02. [3DS] Yo-Kai Watch 3: Sushi <RPG> (Level 5)
02./01. [3DS] Yo-Kai Watch 3: Tempura <RPG> (Level 5)
03./03. [3DS] Dragon Ball: Fusions <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games)
04./00. [PSV] Geten no Hana with Yume Akari: Aizouban <ADV> (Koei Tecmo)
05./05. [WiiU] Minecraft: Wii U Edition <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios)
06./00. [PS4] Tokyo Xanadu Ex+ <RPG> (Nihon Falcom)
07./04. [3DS] Kirby: Planet Robobot <ACT> (Nintendo)
08./00. [PS4] F1 2016 <RCE> (Ubisoft)
09./08. [PS4] Tales of Berseria <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games)
10./11. [PS4] The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt - Complete Edition <RPG> (Spike Chunsoft)

Rakuten Books Pre-Orders Ranking (2016.09.08)

01./00. [PS4] Persona 5 # <RPG> (Atlus)
02./02. [PS4] Persona 5 (20th Anniversary Edition) <RPG> (Atlus)
03./03. [PS4] Persona 5 <RPG> (Atlus)
04./04. [PS3] Persona 5 (20th Anniversary Edition) <RPG> (Atlus)
05./05. [PS4] Winning Eleven 2017 <SPT> (Konami)
 

horuhe

Member
The PlayStation 4 Slim announcement made stores as usual, change their advertisments. TSUTAYA and Joshin dedicated full space for reservations of Persona 5 and its new bundle that was sold-out in hours. It's not allowed to buy more than one per person of the new bundle.

Santy Shop prepared reservations for games launched in October. Berserk and Paper Mario and Mario Party were among them.

Of course, Pokémon and its new trailer appeared, as well.
 

hiska-kun

Member
Media Create Sales

[PS4] The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt - Complete Edition <The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt - Hearts of Stone The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt - Blood and Wine> <RPG> (Spike Chunsoft) {2016.09.01} (¥6.480) - 11.948 / NEW ~70% Sell-Through

LTD
[PS4] The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt <RPG> (Spike Chunsoft) {2015.05.21} (¥8.856) - 188.000

First Day Sell-Through {2016.09.08}

[PS4] Tokyo Xanadu Ex+ <RPG> (Nihon Falcom) - 50% small shipment, it might hold well next week with the Slim release

[PSV] Geten no Hana with Yume Akari: Aizouban <ADV> (Koei Tecmo) - 40%

[PS4] F1 2016 <RCE> (Ubisoft) - 40%

Slow week
 

ZSaberLink

Media Create Maven
Almost 3 years into the PS4's life and its biggest JP titles are still on PS3 as well... sigh... Although how long do you think until they phase out the PS3 versions?
 

Ōkami

Member
Persona 5 is the last major crossgen title.

Pretty much everything "big" else for PS3 moving forward will likely be Musou games if that.
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
21./03. [PS4] No Man's Sky <ADV> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2016.08.25} (¥5.900)
22./25. [3DS] Sumikko Gurashi: Mura o Tsukurundesu <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2016.07.21} (¥4.800)
23./09. [PS3] Sengoku Basara: Sanada Yukimura-Den <ACT> (Capcom) {2016.08.25} (¥6.990)
24./34. [PSV] Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana # <RPG> (Nihon Falcom) {2016.07.21} (¥6.800)
25./00. [3DS] Etrian Odyssey V: The End of the Long Myth # <RPG> (Atlus) {2016.08.04} (¥6.480)
26./31. [3DS] 12-Sai. Koisuru Diary <ADV> (Happinet) {2016.08.04} (¥5.815)
27./30. [PSV] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2016 <SPT> (Konami) {2016.04.28} (¥6.980)
28./38. [WIU] Mario Kart 8 # <RCE> (Nintendo) {2014.05.29} (¥5.700)
29./36. [3DS] Story of Seasons: Trio of Towns <SLG> (Marvelous) {2016.06.23} (¥4.980)
30./28. [PS4] Ratchet & Clank # <ACT> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2016.08.09} (¥5.900)
31./37. [3DS] Taiko no Tatsujin: Don Don! Mystery Adventure <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.06.16} (¥4.800)
32./29. [PSV] Toukiden 2 # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2016.07.28} (¥6.800)
33./40. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.571)
34./21. [3DS] Metroid Prime: Federation Force <ACT> (Nintendo) {2016.08.25} (¥4.700)
35./35. [PS4] Overwatch <ACT> (Square Enix) {2016.05.24} (¥7.800)
36./42. [PS4] Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Siege <ACT> (Ubisoft) {2015.12.10} (¥8.400)
37./39. [3DS] Monster Hunter Generations # <ACT> (Capcom) {2015.11.28} (¥5.800)
38./43. [WIU] Super Smash Bros. for Wii U # <FTG> (Nintendo) {2014.12.06} (¥7.200)
39./49. [WIU] Super Mario Maker # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2015.09.10} (¥5.700)
40./15. [3DS] Azure Striker Gunvolt: Striker Pack <Azure Striker Gunvolt \ Azure Striker Gunvolt 2> # <ACT> (Inti Creates) {2016.08.25} (¥4.800)
41./44. [3DS] Tomodachi Life [Nintendo Selects] <ETC> (Nintendo) {2016.03.17} (¥2.700)
42./46. [PS4] Minecraft: PlayStation 4 Edition <ADV> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2015.12.03} (¥2.400)
43./47. [3DS] Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2015.07.30} (¥4.000)
44./45. [3DS] Pokemon X / Y # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2013.10.12} (¥4.571)
45./23. [PSV] Ouma ga Toki: Kakuriyo no Enishi # <ADV> (Nippon Cultural Broadcasting eXtend) {2016.08.25} (¥5.800)
46./00. [3DS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Spirit of Justice # <ADV> (Capcom) {2016.06.09} (¥5.800)
47./19. [PSV] Moujuu-Tachi to Ohimesama # <ADV> (Idea Factory) {2016.08.25} (¥6.300)
48./50. [PS4] Dark Souls III <RPG> (From Software) {2016.03.24} (¥7.430)
49./00. [3DS] Pro Baseball Famista Returns <SPT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2015.10.08} (¥5.690)
50./00. [3DS] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS <FTG> (Nintendo) {2014.09.13} (¥5.200)
00./00. [PS4] The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt <RPG> (Spike Chunsoft) {2015.05.21} (¥8.200) - * / 188.000

Top 50

3DS - 22
PS4 - 12
PSV - 8
WIU - 6
PS3 - 2

SOFTWARE
Code:
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+
|System |  This Week |  Last Week |  Last Year |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+
|  ALL  |    271.000 |    387.000 |    817.000 | 17.937.000 | 22.866.000 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+
 

L~A

Member
It's entirely possible they're busy, but if I had to guess, I'd say the biggest factor in Super Mario Run coming out first is that it's a game that is just launching a set amount of content (at least up front) instead of a service expected to last for years on end.

One thing everyone seems to have forgotten (I even need to go check to make sure) is that Mario was most likely always supposed to come out first.

Here's what Kimishima said in February, way before AC and FE were announced:

&#8220;The second game won&#8217;t be another communication app, and we plan to adopt one of our characters that fans are very familiar with,&#8221; Nintendo CEO Tatsumi Kimishima said.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/nintendo-profit-slumps-in-3rd-quarter-1454397802

Of course AC and FE are pretty popular, but "one of our characters that fans are very familiar with" is not something I'd use for either.

As to why Super Mario Run was announced last, I think it's due to several reasons. The first one is that AC and FE were most likely announced to appease shareholders and tell them "yeah, we know you don't like Miitomo, but don't worry, we have Waifu / Husbando Gacha and Microtransactions Crossing coming right up".

I also believe Super Mario Run was always supposed to be revealed at the Apple Keynote, for maximum impact (it's something that's followed by loads of people, with a massive reach, especially among casual mobile gamers who don't follow gaming news at all. It's covered not just by the gaming/tech press, but most of the general press too). Which is why we never heard of it before. And I assume it's not something they set up in a couple of days with Apple, either. Maybe the game was supposed to launch right after the presentation, but ended up getting delayed (I mean, Miitomo itself was already delayed, so that wouldn't be farfetched to think Super Mario Run was too... especially with both AC and FE also getting delayed).
 

hiska-kun

Member
SOFTWARE
Code:
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+
|System |  This Week |  Last Week |  Last Year |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+
|  ALL  |    271.000 |    387.000 |    817.000 | 17.937.000 | 22.866.000 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+

We're heading to one of the worst weeks of all time. The lowest record is 235.000 units of software sold, in 2015. Next week might have chances of beaten that.

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1048920
 

L~A

Member
August edition of the Leg-o-meter:


GTA V has some truly impressive legs, even managed to break through the "Nintendo fortress".

Pokémon ORAS and Minecraft Wii U have been steadily climbing up the charts, along with Mario & Sonic Wii U.

Overwatch was going well for a while, but it seems to have disappeared in the past couple of weeks. I assume it'll be back once the PS4S is out.

Yo-kai Watch will catch up with the other 3DS games by the end of this month, I think.
 

Bruno MB

Member
PREDICTION LEAGUE PERSONA 5 EDITION

Predict how much these products will sell in the week (from Sep 12 to Sep 18):

[PS4] Hardware (7 days) - 80.000
[PS4] Persona 5 (4 days) - 255.000
[PS3] Persona 5 (4 days) - 100.000
 

horuhe

Member
PREDICTION LEAGUE PERSONA 5 EDITION

Predict how much these products will sell in the week (from Sep 12 to Sep 18):

[PS4] Hardware (7 days) - 79.007
[PS4] Persona 5 (4 days) - 234.655
[PS3] Persona 5 (4 days) - 67.938
 

GAS

Neo Member
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SOFTWARE
Code:
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+
|System |  This Week |  Last Week |  Last Year |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+
|  ALL  |    271.000 |    387.000 |    817.000 | [B]17.937.000[/B] | 22.866.000 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+
The number of YTD is the same of the past week.
...it must be 18.208.000.
 

casiopao

Member
Media Create Sales

[PS4] The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt - Complete Edition <The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt - Hearts of Stone The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt - Blood and Wine> <RPG> (Spike Chunsoft) {2016.09.01} (¥6.480) - 11.948 / NEW ~70% Sell-Through

LTD
[PS4] The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt <RPG> (Spike Chunsoft) {2015.05.21} (¥8.856) - 188.000

First Day Sell-Through {2016.09.08}

[PS4] Tokyo Xanadu Ex+ <RPG> (Nihon Falcom) - 50% small shipment, it might hold well next week with the Slim release

[PSV] Geten no Hana with Yume Akari: Aizouban <ADV> (Koei Tecmo) - 40%

[PS4] F1 2016 <RCE> (Ubisoft) - 40%

Slow week

Go Go Go Geten no Hana.^_^ Kikyo and Nobu-sama FTW.>-<

Nothing came out this week, right? Nothing significant, at the very least. Nvm, didn't see the post above... Yeah, slow week indeed, but the new releases should prevent sales to drop below 235k, even if none of them are going to sell much.

Anyway, some Pokémon SM ads. There's more at the link, but this one is pretty neat.



> https://twitter.com/9P_Naoto/status/773775763862532097

That ads is beautiful lol.^_^
 

Akki

Member
PREDICTION LEAGUE PERSONA 5 EDITION

Predict how much these products will sell in the week (from Sep 12 to Sep 18):

[PS4] Hardware (7 days) - 65,000
[PS4] Persona 5 (4 days) - 265,000
[PS3] Persona 5 (4 days) - 65,000
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
Bolded are new.

Road To TGS:

3DS:
- Puyo Puyo Chronicle (Sega): This is a full priced Puzzle RPG that reminds me of P&D or Monster Strike when they were turned into full RPGs with the puzzle mechanic as the gameplay. There's 3D graphics, a plotline, cutscenes, a world and towns you wander around in, and more. It's the 25th anniversary title.
- RPG Maker Fes (Enterbrain): It's RPG Maker, but for 3DS. It will have all the game sharing type functionality you would expect to make that actually useful.
- All Kamen Rider: Rider Revolution (Bandai Namco): It's a sidescrolling action game featuring all the Kamen Riders.
- Megami Meguri (Capcom): This is a game where you scan your train card and then the characters in the game talk to you about your riding history. I'm kind of surprised this isn't a mobile game, but I'm guessing the train companies are hoping to make riding the train more exciting for children.
- Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball Heroes (Konami): This is an easy to play PowaPro baseball game for 3DS, presumably to target kids who aren't playing either the mobile or PS4/PS3/Vita game given we haven't had a 3DS version in a while.
- Sega 3D Fukkoku Archives 3: Final Stage (Sega): This is a 3D-ified retro game collection with After Burner II, Super Hang-On, Streets of Rage II, Sonic the Hedgehog 2, Gunstar Heroes, and Turbo Outrun. There are also three more games coming. Given the name, this is presumably the last collection for 3DS. There will also be a compilation release.
- Kunio-kun Nekketsu Complete Famicom Series (Arc System Works): This is a collection of all Kunio-kun games from the original Nintendo.
- Tank Troopers (Nintendo): This is a class based, competitive third person shooter where everyone is a tank and you can't play online.
- Super Mario Maker 3DS (Nintendo): This is a 3DS adaptation of Super Mario Maker. There are some limitations like not being able to upload courses online or pick courses from the store by course ID. Not all Wii U stages work on the 3DS version.
- Poochy & Yoshi’s Woolly World (Nintendo): This is an enhanced port of Yoshi's Woolly World for 3DS that has every single level from the Wii U version, plus new exclusive levels where you play as Poochy. There are also 30 animated shorts with Yoshi and Poochy being added to the game, and a Poochy amiibo is being released.
- Mario Sports: Superstars (Nintendo): This is a Mario Sports title featuring Soccer, Baseball, Tennis, Golf, and Horse Riding. Each game has a singleplayer mode along with local and online multiplayer. It's probably the first Mario Sports title this generation where I felt the value proposition actually made sense in the modern era, so I'm curious to see how it does.
- Pikmin for Nintendo 3DS (Nintendo): This is a 2D sidescrolling Pikmin game where you use Pikmin to help Captain Olimar progress through the levels. They intend to give it a new name later.
- Momotaro Dentetsu 2017: Tachiagare Nippon!! (3DS): The rumors are true, and Nintendo is now publishing the Momotaro Dentetsu series instead of Konami. This is the first new entry in a while, and the last one had a huge popularity surge when it was on some TV show, so this will probably be quite successful.
- Miitopia (Nintendo): We got a logo with a fantasy vibe about it. That's... about it.

PS4:
- Metal Gear Survive (Konami): This is a $30 four player co-op zombie shoooter that takes places between MGS: Ground Zeroes and MGSV, and probably represents the type of games we'll be getting out of the series going forward.
- Miko Gakkou Monogatari: Kaede Episode (xinoro): This is a $10 indie game port.
- Arcade Archives: I'm re-bolding this and editing the entry to reflect that there are basically a variety of older arcade titles for this program announced at TGS and I feel they make more sense as one lump entry.
- * Project Awakening (CyGames): Once upon a time, the director of 3D Dot Heroes (Silicon Studio) started a new company with CyberAgent and CyDesignation called CyGames. He proceeded to make billions of dollars with endlessly successful mobile games, and now he's seemingly directing his own "High End Console Game" along with a bunch of staff he poached from Square Enix, Konami, and related studios.
- * Project Re: Link (CyGames/Platinum Games): Platinum Games is working with CyGames on what appears to be a four player action RPG based on the Granblue Fantasy series. It looks pretty ambitious for what it is. Technically the only platform hinted at so far it the PC, but given it looks like a co-op game instead of an MMO (they noted it was imagined for multiplayer but you can play it in singleplayer as well), I'd be really surprised if it wasn't on PS4, so I'm putting it here for now. Feel free to pelt me with stones if it doesn't show up on PS4.
- Birthdays The Beginning (Arc System Works): This is a new game from Harvest Moon's creator. It's like an old God Game on PC where you shape the environment and related things and the world grows up and evolves based on the various conditions present.
- SkyRide (Mutan): This is some kind of $15 3D shmup.
- Monster Hunter Frontier Z (Capcom): This is the newest update to Monster Hunter Frontier, and the game is getting ported to PS4 to coincide with the update.
- M2 ShotTriggers (M2/Various): This is similar to arcade archives, but for classic shmups from various publishers and developers.
- SG/ZH School Girl/Zombie Hunter (D3/Tamsoft): This is the newest game from the Onechanbara people. It takes place in the same universe, but is a shooter and stars school girls instead.
- Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 4 Road to Boruto (Bandai Namco/CyberConnect2): This is a re-release of the game with all the DLC and the new Boruto expansion pack (which is also available as DLC) included. I felt it was worth including since it's a deviation from the approach of release Ultimate Ninja Storm Revolution.


3DS/PS4:
- * Megaton Musashi (Level-5): To note, these are platforms "under consideration". The game might not come out for several years, at which point it might drop the 3DS version in favor of the NX. Hino noted he wants the game to appeal to both older Super Robot fans, as well as new children, and that he wants it to be on a portable and "as large as a screen as possible".

PS4/Vita:
- Story of the Good Old Days (Daidai): Simulation RPG, budget title.
- Blue Reflection: Sword of the Girl Who Dances in Illusions (Koei Tecmo/Gust): This appears to be a magical girl RPG starring school girls by the Atelier character designer. The actual graphical quality looks surprisingly good for Gust, though everyone looks like a doll.
- Nights of Azure 2: Bride of the New Moon (Koei Tecmo/Gust): It sounds like an iterative sequel to the last game.
- Re:Zero -Starting Life in Another World- Death or Kiss (5pb): This is a visual novel based on the light novel.
- Sengoku Shura Soul (Lions Film/Creek and River): This is a real-time battle, Sengoku based f2p smartphone title that's being ported to PS4 and Vita. It received over 1 million downloads on mobile and has had okay but far from astonishing performance there, though I imagine for whatever studio Creek and River has set up for the purposes of getting into gaming, it's probably quite healthy, hence the expansion.
- Touhou Koubuto V (Touhou): There were a bunch of Touhou games that had release dates announced for PS4/Vita recently, but I think this is the only new announcement for the time frame Road to TGS covers. It's $30, is a fighting action game, and will support PSVR. The PS4 version has online multiplayer while the Vita one has ad-hoc multiplayer.

Vita:
- The Princess is Money-Hungry (Nippon Ichi): This feels sort of like a retro-inspired indie game though it costs $60.
- id: Rebirth Session (Entergram): Visual novel.
- Valkyria: Azure Revolution (Sega/Media.Vision): This is also on PS4, but a Vita version of the game was just announced.
- Twin Star Exorcists (Bandai Namco): This is a "battle and adventure" game based on the manga of the same name, centering around an original story.
- Drive Girls (Bergsala Lightweight): It's a game about girls who turn into cars and fight insects.

NX:
- I'll include that Dragon Quest XI (Square Enix) was reconfirmed to be coming to NX, and that all three versions are aiming for simultaneous release. When this game is formally shown, I might change up how this one is written to match the other formatting.

PS4/PS3:
- Romance of the Three Kingdoms 13 with Power Up Kit (Koei Tecmo): This is an expanded re-release.

3DS/Mobile:
- Lady Layton (Level-5): This is pretty similar to a traditional Layton title, but brought into being a mobile era service game. It's probably one of Level-5's most interesting experiments and it will be a good one to follow in terms of performance and Level-5's statements about how it's done.

Mobile:
- Lost Order (CyGames/Platinum Games): Yasumi Matsuno (Final Fantasy Tactics, FFXII) is back and directing a new Real Time Tactics game developed by Platinum for CyGames. Akihito Yoshida is the art director and character designer on the title. The game is fully 3D, and is Platinum's first mobile title. This game is a good example of what I mean by mobile games in Japan targeting older core gamers a lot more than you see in the West, along with the increasing complexity you see in Japanese mobile titles. Taking a look at a screenshot, this is also the type of game you would have expected as a Vita title in a world where mobile hadn't risen to its current heights. Mind, CyGames is also making significant investments in console games at this point.
- Yo-Kai Watch (Level-5): Enhanced port of original game.
- Yo-Kai Daijiten (Level-5): Quiz RPG, looks high effort for what it is.
- Yo-Kai Watch Geraporhythm (Level-5): Rhythm game, similarly looks high effort for what it is.
- Otome Hero (Level-5): Otome RPG.
- Kamitsuri (Square-Enix): Puzzle RPG.
- Princess Connect Re: Dive (CyGames): It's not really clear what this game is yet, outside of them signing some famous studios and people to handle the anime scenes and plotline. Its genre is "Anime RPG".
- Sevens Story (CyGames): CyGames is rebooting/remaking a 2013 turn based tactical RPG into a new game more fit for the modern mobile market. Based on the screenshots, it looks more like what you'd expect out of an actual tactical RPG, but I'll have to see gameplay to be certain.
- Astro Boy: The Edge of Time (Active Gaming Media): This is a collective card game based on Astro Boy. It has a Kickstarter that looks like it will fail, but as far as I can tell, they're making the game anyway.
- Kingdom: Seven Flags (Bandai Namco): This is a mobile game about simulating battles from the warring states era based on the Kingdom manga.
- Dissidia Final Fantasy: Opera Omnia (Square Enix/Koei Tecmo/Team Ninja): Team Ninja is making a command/turn based RPG based on Dissidia where you play as popular Final Fantasy characters and fight various monsters with mechanics as inspired by Dissidia. This one has potential to do well, though there's a lot of games of this nature on mobile already. To some extent, I imagine they're trying to cannibalize themselves before someone else does.
- Starly Girls: Episode Starsia (Kadokawa): This is some kind of waifu collection simulator about flying around a spaceship and piloting mechs.
- Akashic Re:cords (Square Enix): We don't know a lot about this yet, but it appears to be one of Square Enix's big mobile reveal for TGS along with the Dissidia game.
- Kakuchou Shoujokei Trinary (Koei-Tecmo/Gust/Toei): This is a mobile game and anime hybrid project where the anime shows the main story and the mobile title is about the combat and dating aspects of the game, and what happens between each episode of the show. I'm not convinced Gust is a big enough player to make this work, but it is an interesting attempt at cross media on mobile.
- Super Mario Run (Nintendo): The day has finally arrived, and Mario is headed to iOS (and later Android) as a level based autorunner. It will be a free demo app where you make a one time in app purchase to unlock all of the content, at least at launch. I could go into more detail about why this is a very prominent announcement, but I don't think anyone needs me to.
- Guardian Codex (Square Enix): This is the newest game by the Guardian Cross team and was announced from day one as a worldwide release. All the announcement information was even in English, including the promotional website and the assets in the game. I don't think Hiroyuki Ito is involved in this given they didn't bother to put him on the website (he was involved to an extent in Guardian Cross), but you never know.


Unspecified:
- Inazuma Eleven Ares (Level-5): I'm going to guess 3DS, smartphones, and maybe the NS, but this one isn't hinted heavily enough to include in a category above.
- Chaos;Child Love Chu Chu!! (5pb.): It's the newest Chaos;Child visual novel. They didn't bother to announce platforms yet, but you can probably guess.

Cancellations:
- Crows: Burning Edge (Bandai Namco) had its Vita version canceled and is now only for PS4.

Oddities:
- Kai-ri-Sei Million Arthur VR Game (Square Enix): Announced for "the HTC Vive and others", this is a VR game based on the world of Kai-ri-Sei Million Arthur. Square Enix noted they were considering releasing on "other platforms" and even a global release for the game. It's coming in Spring 2017. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that it's also for PSVR, but they want to wait until Sony's pre-TGS conference to confirm that.
- I'm waiting on the official announcement of Earth Defense Force 5 and Rewrite+ to include them so I can include a few more details.

Nirolak's opinion as of this week:
- Pretty quiet week. This isn't too unexpected though as generally everyone has announced the games they're revealing prior to TGS by this point, and saving any other announcements for TGS itself or events like the Sony TGS conference and the Nintendo NX unveil. My position remains that the only things that really feel lacking are upper-mid-tier and large scale titles, with smaller titles and lower-mid-tier being quite present. Mind, those two are rather important categories of games, but I'm not slamming the panic button yet given the upcoming events in question. Obviously the stand out announcement is Super Mario Run by about 12 light years.
 

Eolz

Member
PREDICTION LEAGUE PERSONA 5 EDITION

Predict how much these products will sell in the week (from Sep 12 to Sep 18):

[PS4] Hardware (7 days) - 65k
[PS4] Persona 5 (4 days) - 243k
[PS3] Persona 5 (4 days) - 77k

I'm expecting it to do better in other weeks.
 

Oregano

Member
Super Mario Run is probably the biggest Japanese game announced in the last 10 years(or since Wii Sports I guess).

RIP dedicated hardware
 

Aters

Member
Super Mario Run is probably the biggest Japanese game announced in the last 10 years(or since Wii Sports I guess).

RIP dedicated hardware

No doubt. I wonder if this is a sign that Nintendo might be going 3rd party. If NX floops (I find it very likely) and the mobile department does really well, they don't have other choice.
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
While I'd be surprised if Nintendo is still making hardware 20 years from now, and do feel the various businesses they're getting into are an attempt to prepare for a possible hardwareless future, I don't think there's any immediate plan to do something like that.

I suspect that in the short and medium term, they'll just try to adjust their software line-up to the potential of having a much lower install base than they're traditionally used to while leveraging merchandizing, multimedia, and mobile to keep their IPs relevant to today's audiences that aren't engaging with their hardware.
 

Oregano

Member
No doubt. I wonder if this is a sign that Nintendo might be going 3rd party. If NX floops (I find it very likely) and the mobile department does really well, they don't have other choice.

Well when most people say "Nintendo should go third party" they actually mean "Nintendo should make games for Playstation/Xbox" which I find highly unlikely. Dropping hardware is possible but I think it's still a ways off.

I'd find it hard to predict where NX will be in five years, or dedicated hardware in general(although talking Japan only it's a bit easier to bet on).

EDIT: I actually think if we are to split hairs Nintendo will continue to make hardware longer than they will make dedicated platforms.
 

Vena

Member
No doubt. I wonder if this is a sign that Nintendo might be going 3rd party. If NX floops (I find it very likely) and the mobile department does really well, they don't have other choice.

I dont know how you reached this conclusion. Diversification is something every company does. Is Sony going third party because Uncharted has a mobile game?
 

Eolz

Member
Well when most people say "Nintendo should go third party" they actually mean "Nintendo should make games for Playstation/Xbox" which I find highly unlikely. Dropping hardware is possible but I think it's still a ways off.

I'd find it hard to predict where NX will be in five years, or dedicated hardware in general(although talking Japan only it's a bit easier to bet on).

I think we might see dedicated streaming boxes in the (long term) future for Sony and MS (on top of PC).
Who knows for Nintendo, I'm sure they'll keep reinventing themselves depending on the trends, technologies and markets, just like they have done those past 40+ years.

edit: on top of mobile for all three obviously, like it's already the case for every big publisher now.
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
EDIT: I actually think if we are to split hairs Nintendo will continue to make hardware longer than they will make dedicated platforms.

The new hardware strategy lets them shift to releasing hardware at a very low R&D cost if they want.

I imagine they're still engaging in semi-custom hardware on the basis that mobile hardware isn't quite a 100% straightforward fit for what the NX is trying to do, but we're getting there very quickly.
 

Oregano

Member
I think we might see dedicated streaming boxes in the (long term) future for Sony and MS (on top of PC).
Who knows for Nintendo, I'm sure they'll keep reinventing themselves depending on the trends, technologies and markets, just like they have done those past 40+ years.

edit: on top of mobile for all three obviously, like it's already the case for every big publisher now.

Microsoft could probably easily drop hardware tomorrow if they wanted to but I imagine Xbox Live Subscriptions justify their existence.

The new hardware strategy lets them shift to releasing hardware at a very low R&D cost if they want.

I imagine they're still engaging in semi-custom hardware on the basis that mobile hardware isn't quite a 100% straightforward fit for what the NX is trying to do, but we're getting there very quickly.

Yeah NX sounds quite close to a gaming tablet and it was rumoured to be Android based and or able to run mobile games. I imagine those lines will continue to blur.
 

Lynx_7

Member
PREDICTION LEAGUE PERSONA 5 EDITION

Predict how much these products will sell in the week (from Sep 12 to Sep 18):

[PS4] Hardware (7 days) - 57k
[PS4] Persona 5 (4 days) - 193k
[PS3] Persona 5 (4 days) - 71k

I'm expecting relatively good legs and somewhere between 450-500k LTD when all is said and done. Maybe I'm underselling it, but I feel like some people are overrating the reach of the franchise. Will gladly eat delicious crow if wrong.
 

Yeshua

Member
PREDICTION LEAGUE PERSONA 5 EDITION

Predict how much these products will sell in the week (from Sep 12 to Sep 18):

[PS4] Hardware (7 days) - 80000
[PS4] Persona 5 (4 days) - 240000
[PS3] Persona 5 (4 days) - 120000
 

Aters

Member
I dont know how you reached this conclusion. Diversification is something every company does. Is Sony going third party because Uncharted has a mobile game?

I think diversification itself is a way to prevent possible failure in one field. Nintendo is putting their eggs in different baskets, which is what they should be doing long time ago. I think they are preparing for a future with no dedicated console. That day may never come, but if it does, Nintendo won't be caught with nothing in their hands.
 

duckroll

Member
I dont know how you reached this conclusion. Diversification is something every company does. Is Sony going third party because Uncharted has a mobile game?

Does the Uncharted mobile game have the potential of making more money for Sony than the last few Uncharted games combined?
 

casiopao

Member
Does the Uncharted mobile game have the potential of making more money for Sony than the last few Uncharted games combined?

But, there is also the argument that can't the new Mario on NX can brought more profit than Run brought? So, why should Nintendo leave dedicated handheld market?
 

Shahed

Member
Xanadu PS4 came out way too late, I cant see it selling.
I wouldn't say it came out way too late. Once it wasn't day and date with the Vita version, it was already dead. Ys VIII is next! Late console ports usually do pretty bad.
 

Nyoro SF

Member
I wouldn't say it came out way too late. Once it wasn't day and date with the Vita version, it was already dead. Ys VIII is next! Late console ports usually do pretty bad.

Yeah this strategy was not gonna work. The PS4 is already "behind" in a sense, so treating it like the red-headed stepchild of your platform strategy probably wasn't ideal if you wanted your games on it to succeed. It reminds me of watching companies port modern console titles to PC for the first time back in 2009 on.

In somewhat related news, I do get a chuckle out of every person who entertains a PS4 exclusive Cold Steel 3.
 
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