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Don't count Animal Crossing: New Leaf out from selling another six figures in November/December.
And of-course there's Super Mario Maker.
Well, I could ask this: What's the point of announcing a game in September, with a release window by the end of the year, but not show anything at all (not even a teaser picture) for at least a month after the announcement? You could say "to build hype", but I'm sure most people who aren't reading this thread have forgotten about it (stats from: my behind (C) 2016, All rights reserved).
It's not unusual for Nintendo to not show much of its games (even the biggest ones) until "close" to release, but nothing at all for a game launching within the next three months? Especially at retail.
Maybe I'm just overthinking things (most likely), but until we get to see what the game even looks like, I'm not putting my money on a 2016 release.
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By the way, Dai Gyakuten Saiban getting budget re-release on December 8th. Not formally announced yet, though, but most likely announcement will come this week.
Fact remains, they are out of time. If there is no release date announced by the end of this month, it is not coming out in 2016. You need a lead time for shipment orders.
The "Some people just want to see the world burn" in me wants exactly that to happen, for the meltdowns
One thing's for sure about Miitopia is that it's definitely not a 2016 title in the west, since it wasn't even mentioned in the EU and NA Directs.
Lol. I totally forget about SMM3DS......Ninty is going to be damn fine huh.T_T
The "Some people just want to see the world burn" in me wants exactly that to happen, for the meltdowns
One thing's for sure about Miitopia is that it's definitely not a 2016 title in the west, since it wasn't even mentioned in the EU and NA Directs.
Did they actually even say it would launch at retail this year in Japan?
Could it be a DD(-only) game?
I think being a Wii U game will hurt it more. I'm actually not even sure Sticker Star was badly received by the wider audience.
I dont think the mass audience of SS had such bad perception for the game though? It surely will hurt by the simple fact of being Wii u game lol
Nintendo Direct made it clear it would be a retail title. I went and checked the last time I discussed that bit with hiska-kun, since I was sure they had said digital.
https://youtu.be/QHG8fWiWJaw?list=PLPh3p_yYrx0CDl8RdCiCIcmDzTpmQN_lY&t=2504
I don't really think there was much negative word of mouth for Sticker Star in Japan, where it is the best-selling entry.
Source: Famitsu / Game Data Library
Also, the game had some pretty great legs (I even remember people moaning about it here because they didn't like SS), so it's not like the game had a much better opening and then fell off a cliff. In fact, it was the third best debut... in a series with 4 games in total (well, 5 now).
If PM doesn't sell well, it's most likely due almost exclusively to the Wii U itself. I doubt SS will have much of an impact.
theprodigy
Member
There's no way to tell this one way or another, but it certainly got much worse reviews at least.
Japan bruh. Best selling PM and nice leggy too.
theprodigy
Member
whatever, on a worldwide level (make more Super Paper Marios, best selling one by far)
Lololol. It is like u don't care that this is a sales thread lol. If u want to complain about Color Splash, there are many other thread out there bruh.
PM64 and TTYD both did pretty well on a smaller userbase. 4 and 5 million. With PM64 even coming at the end of the N64's life.
I dunno how hard those games were pushed, but until now it's been a pretty dang consistent franchise regardless of install base. And it's not like the Wii U can't have successful 1st party games.
is the pm well poisoned? I don't think so, but I do think the hardcore isn't thrilled overall. Not sure about the hardcore in japan, but it's a fact that all Mario RPGs have been on a downward trend in Japan
theprodigy
Member
Did you take the Super Paper Mario comment as sarcasm? I actually liked that game.
(and besides, do you even know Japanese reviewers aside from Famitsu? I don't, so why even interject to my original point, which was about reviews)
I don't know. But the notable ones have been Zelda TP, Mario & Sonic, Star Fox (ish), Pokken, Minecraft physically.
I guess PM will beat out Star Fox...? Maybe TPHD
It got better reviews than Sticker Star ?_? And if you're refering to Super Paper Mario (85 metacritic) and Color Splash (78 metacritic) then you need to check your scale for "much worse". Because if we're going to play this game then Super Paper Mario got much worse reviews than Paper Mario for N64 ;D
well if that game is being played, SPM's overall reception is in fact worse than what PM64 got....so...not sure what you're saying.
I'm jumping in randomly so I don't know what the discussion's really about lol
theprodigy
Member
I'm talking about Sticker Star's reviews (or just Metacritic score cause this needs to be specified apparently) vs the 3 games before it.
(And yeah I don't get PM64's score either but whatever)
I am talking on the sales vs the poison well problem.
As with how SS had legs in Japan, it simply means the JP fans dont had that much problem vs the West as we had seen game which had bad WoM usually had zero legs.
theprodigy
Member
(What other RPGs are even on N64)Cause it's the best rpg on the N64
Anyway what even is this Miitopia thing?
Sammy Samusu
Member
If only people saw SS for what it is, and not for what they want it to be...
The game is a full 10/10 adventure.
The game is a full 10/10 adventure.
Even then, going from 85 to 75 is nothing I would qualify as "much worse" (that would be going from something in the 90's to somethng in the 70's IMO).
Anyway I'm on the "Sticker Star didn't poisoned the games as bad as GAF makes you want to believe" camp so it's more Wii U's fault than the game being bad or much worse. And despite everything it'll probably sell more than the Last Guardian in Japan so...
Bwahahaha ;D
Waitttt. Last guardian selling worst vs color splash? I mean how bad is the last two ico games sales here.0_0
Hahaha, I was only trying to spark a round 2 in the battles between Mario Spinoffs vs Sony Exclusives (started by Mario Party 10 vs Bloodborne). I expect The Last Guardian to have a drop regarding ICO (200.000) and Shadow of the Clossus (230.000) but I don't think it'll be so severe so It'll be beaten by Color Splash LTD.
But maybe they'll finish with a closer LTD than what we think ;D
Yep.
Ahh i see. I thought we are talking about super bomba lol.
I don't think Color Splash had any chance of reaching 200k though.O_O
And do you think TLG has any chance to reach that?
agreed, it just can't sell that much.
it seems as if good WiiU selling games in Japan require a strong multiplayer component.
I wonder whether Color Splash is headed towards Wonderful 101/Donkey Kong: TF territory.
The_lascar
Member
(one year later)
Edit: Nervermind, I just have to use the physical sales from the weekly top 30 and the cumulative sales from this monthly top 30.
Does someone have the true numbers for Yo-Kai Watch Busters?Ōkami;193503314 said:
Edit: Nervermind, I just have to use the physical sales from the weekly top 30 and the cumulative sales from this monthly top 30.
Wonderful 101 had very different numbers than Donkey Kong :|
both were MASSIVE bombs in japan, the last number I saw for TF was like 20k and wonderful started at 4k so it probably sold 15k LTD? just going by memory here, I don't have the exact LTDs but they sold terribly bad.
Add 100k to Donkey Kong.
They both bombed alright, but ended up pretty far away from one another.
Ōkami;219789716 said:
out of those the most tragic is definitely Donkey Kong,
DK on Wii sold over one million copies in Japan alone. I'd think that a game that sells over 1 million copies is a system seller, plus the IP has the SNES legacy!
Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze should have helped sell like 200k units, it didn't do shit cause yeah, it's on WiiU
Not really lol. But doing below color splash would be disaster if u ask me.0_0
So, Xbox One is getting another price drop.
The price for the first two is what they already go by, they're dropping the price of the upcoming Battlefield 1 bundle.
Stand alone system is getting a price drop too though, from October 13 a regular Xbox One with no games will go for 22.759 yen (some $220).
https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/xboxjapanblog/2016/10/11/xbox-one-price-change/
The price for the first two is what they already go by, they're dropping the price of the upcoming Battlefield 1 bundle.
Stand alone system is getting a price drop too though, from October 13 a regular Xbox One with no games will go for 22.759 yen (some $220).
https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/xboxjapanblog/2016/10/11/xbox-one-price-change/
No, it hasn't region lock.You can buy games from every store, etc,
https://twitter.com/BDFF_OFFICIAL/status/785755103714082816/photo/1
4th year anniversary for Bravely series and a new announcement coming soon!?
Gonna guess its for phones.
4th year anniversary for Bravely series and a new announcement coming soon!?
Gonna guess its for phones.
Nice.^_^ Hoped that when i went to Japan maybe late this year, i will get the chance to get the console.^^
Finally, Bravely Third.
,,,,,,,,it is going to be Bravely Default for Mobile right?T_T
kuroneko0509
Member
i'm just hoping it's not a new bravely f2p game... I kinda like archive actually
you'll have plenty of chance to grab one. it's not like it will be sold out
you'll have plenty of chance to grab one. it's not like it will be sold out
out of those the most tragic is definitely Donkey Kong,
DK on Wii sold over one million copies in Japan alone. I'd think that a game that sells over 1 million copies is a system seller, plus the IP has the SNES legacy!
Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze should have helped sell like 200k units, it didn't do shit cause yeah, it's on WiiU
Wonderful 101 - 27.000
Donkey Kong: TF - 118.000
You were talking about territory. Does that seem the same territory to you?
If you wanted to talk about declines then the Wonderful 101 doesn't belong there and you could've used a better example with the Wii series (Sports and Fit).
In the end Color Splash should sell on par with Donkey Kong and Xenoblade, which is the best a Wii U game could do right now in Japan (these numbers would mean selling better than Tokyo Mirage Session, Yoshi's Wooly World, Bayonetta 2, Project Zero V, both Zelda remakes, Lego City, Game and Wario, Kirby Rainbow...). There's always going to be a decline comparing titles from handheld to console (and worse if it's 3DS to Wii U) so a huge decline is expected. But selling numbers on W101 territory is too much hyperbole.