Little Chicken
Member
Impressive.
And a FREE update.
Fuck your Ultimate Editions, 505 Games.
And a FREE update.
Fuck your Ultimate Editions, 505 Games.
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Metro Exodus next Gen Announced PC-SeriesX-PS5 FIGHT!!!
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Riky
$MSFT
Interesting. So there is no hardware support for VRS then.
Proelite
Member
One could have figured that out after Road to PS5 when Cerny didn't mention it.
Tickle My Tendies
Member
Will be really interesting to see if this causes a discrepancy between the Series and PS5 versions....
IF, and I emphasize IF, IF that is the case, things will heat up for sure.
SlimySnake
The Contrarian
How can the PS5 version have VRS when the PS5 RDNA 0.00001 GPU doesnt support it?They use VRS
assurdum
Banned
They use their own version.
assurdum
Banned
MAYBE, and I emphasize MAYBE, MAYBE developers will use their own vrs solution.
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Riky
$MSFT
Well that was logical, but people kept maintaining that they did but it just used a different name.
Proelite
Member
Which didn't make sense either since the Vulcan dudes mention VRS and mesh shaders all the time.
Software VRS is actually more flexible than hardware VRS.
End result should be a wash. The HW VRS will be more performant by 5-10% but will have more visual artifacts.
Software-based Variable Rate Shading in Call of Duty: Modern Warfare
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Little Chicken
Member
No, Metro Exodus came out in 2019, it's the third game in the series.
Syphon Filter
Member
Waste of time and money, just play it through backward compatibility.
SlimySnake
The Contrarian
well I suppose this is confirmation that the PS5 does not support VRS.
Which didn't make sense either since the Vulcan dudes mention VRS and mesh shaders all the time.
Software VRS is actually more flexible than hardware VRS.
End result should be a wash. The HW VRS will be more performant by 5-10% but will have more visual artifacts.
Software-based Variable Rate Shading in Call of Duty: Modern Warfare
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assurdum
Banned
Kinda of disagree. There isn't an unique way to do VRS and if an ex engineer reported something similar is inside the GE what change if it's not exactly the same VRS used by RDNA2 or MS? I think the big misconceptions around this matter it's the notion there is only a way to reach the VRS and mesh shaders enhancements, but we put the things in the wrong perspective, if I can say. You can achieve similar effects via hardware if you have a dedicated GE as ps5, or at least seems so hearing different sources
Which didn't make sense either since the Vulcan dudes mention VRS and mesh shaders all the time.
Software VRS is actually more flexible than hardware VRS.
End result should be a wash. The HW VRS will be more performant by 5-10% but will have more visual artifacts.
Software-based Variable Rate Shading in Call of Duty: Modern Warfare
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Tickle My Tendies
Member
Proelite
Member
Looking forward to someone from Sony talking about VRS.
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assurdum
Banned
Oh Matt did it. He said solely VRS is limiting where a dedicated GE allows to do more because VRS still processing vertices you can/should eliminate in earlier stages to begin with.
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Riky
$MSFT
Seems to be the case hardware wise, if it had hardware support for it I don't know why a dev would use their own software version from last gen instead.
Will the same hold true for Mesh Shaders and SFS.
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Tickle My Tendies
Member
Yo, whose man is this?
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Mister Wolf
Member
Is the own version just as good?
Mister Wolf
Member
Are people going to try calling this a backward compatible game?
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
So FREE and spring for the consoles?
How much is it costing on XB right now?
How much is it costing on XB right now?
smart_brazileiro
Banned
Input lag.... Be gone...
I'll blow the wind of God.
I'll blow the wind of God.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Did you even read what you posted?
Tickle My Tendies
Member
DLSS 2.0 for this on PC YAAASSSS!
I was waiting for so long, thought I'd never see the day.
Praise be to DLSS 2.0!
Riky
$MSFT
Did you?
They say they are updating a software version from PS4, so not hardware support.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
That doesn't say PS5 hardware doesn't support it in it's hardware.
Tickle My Tendies
Member
Free upgrade, springtime release
It's on PC and Xbox Game Pass, not sure what the retail cost is.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Sweet thx. I just checked $65 for the bundle so I will wait.
CitizenZ
Banned
https://gamingbolt.com/metro-exodus...mes-native-4k-resolution-is-testament-to-that
So....the basically same game for $500 interesting.
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cragarmi
Member
VRS maybe some new buzz word to you and a few others around here, but most modern game engines have used a form of it for many years! It is not a magic FPS wand! It requires both a software solution and the hardware to accelerate the process, both the PS5 and XS consoles have a method of accelerating the process quicker and more efficiently than the last gen. Results are and will be similar, as grandma-ma used to say 'there is more than 1 way to skin a cat'
Mister Wolf
Member
The best part is this game wont be hiding behind dynamic resolution scaling.
Golgo 13
The Man With The Golden Dong
I also remember people saying Metro Last Light could never run at 1080p/60FPS on a Jaguar CPU (base PS4), but it did.
4A are gifted, and while the game won’t look nearly as good as a PC version running with 20GB of DDR6 VRAM on Ultra, it will still be extremely impressive given the specs of the systems, if 4A’s past ports are anything to go by.
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Shmunter
Member
It’s possible, plus needs PS5 titles going forward, this, Dirt 5, Godfall...all prime candidates.
MasterCornholio
Member
Or maybe it will just hide behind some reconstruction technique.
Mister Wolf
Member
That's fine. They still gotta have a base resolution. I will take that over pixel counts from DF and NX where they have no true way by means of software/hardware to benchmark the average resolution.
MasterCornholio
Member
Well with some reconstruction methods it's almost impossible to detect the base resolution. Which is what happened with Digital Foundry and the UE5 tech demo.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Not if they're using Tier 2, which Series X supports and is used in Gears 5 on Series X and the DLC. I also think they updated it for Gears Tactics also? I can't remember. But Tier 2 won't have those same artifacts that Tier 1 VRS does.
Which didn't make sense either since the Vulcan dudes mention VRS and mesh shaders all the time.
Software VRS is actually more flexible than hardware VRS.
End result should be a wash. The HW VRS will be more performant by 5-10% but will have more visual artifacts.
Software-based Variable Rate Shading in Call of Duty: Modern Warfare
01011001
Member
ima be real, they should include a setting on Console to switch between RT lighting and RT reflections. IMO reflections are way more important but for some lighting might be more important. I bet the whole set of RT effects would completely slow down the consoles but at least a choise would be nice IMO
Mister Wolf
Member
All of them are detectable including the one in Spiderman which DF could pixel count. That's a misconception. Alex said they couldn't pixel count the UE5 demo because there were no straight edges. Not only that the UE5 demo uses dynamic resolution on top of TAAU and averaged sub 1440p.
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retsof624
Member
those weirdos tag all the fanboys for backup lol.
“Daddies, Alex said something wrong!!”
Type_Raver
Member
Metro Exodus - THE METRO EXODUS PC ENHANCED EDITION ANNOUNCED - Steam News (steampowered.com)
Today we’re ready to confirm another exciting project set to release this year – the Metro Exodus PC Enhanced Edition! Built for high-end PC hardware with Ray Tracing capable Nvidia and AMD GPUs and implementing DLSS 2.0 for the ultimate PC experience. Didn’t think Metro Exodus could look any better? Hold our vodka.
We also have an update on the PC Mac and Linux Versions that we know some of you have been patiently waiting for.
When Metro Exodus released two years ago, it was one of the first games to feature Ray Tracing (on high-end PC only) thanks to NVIDIA’s new RTX series of graphics cards, although we still utilized many more traditional rendering techniques for console and older PC graphics cards.
But with Xbox Series X|S and PlayStation 5 consoles offering Ray Tracing support, we took the decision to radically overhaul our proprietary 4A Engine and realise our ambitions for a fully Ray Traced experience on next gen consoles and high-end PC.
We have built an all-new Fully Ray Traced Lighting Pipeline that brings a number of optimizations, upgrades, and new features to the Ray Traced Global Illumination and Emissive Lighting that we pioneered with the original release of Metro Exodus, as well as an upgraded implementation of our powerful Temporal Reconstruction technology to further boost resolution, visual detail and performance.
And we’ve pushed these enhancements to the limit to take advantage of the latest Ray Tracing capable GPU hardware from NVIDIA and AMD, to create the ultimate version for our PC enthusiast fans.
Introducing the Metro Exodus PC Enhanced Edition
For PC players, we’re taking advantage of our new Fully Ray Traced Lighting Pipeline and the latest GPU-capable hardware from NVIDIA and AMD to offer the ultimate Ray Traced experience – the Metro Exodus PC Enhanced Edition.
This upgrade is so extensive, it will require a Ray Tracing capable GPU as the minimum spec, and we will need to deliver this version as a separate product – it is not a simple ‘patch’ to the base game – instead it will be offered as an extra entitlement to all existing Metro Exodus PC players.
The PC Enhanced Edition will offer additional Ray Tracing features, including Advanced Ray Traced Reflections and support for DLSS 2.0 on NVIDIA hardware, which offers sharper image details and increased framerates and display resolutions. Applying the same philosophy as our Xbox and PlayStation upgrades, this PC Enhanced Edition will be FREE to all existing Metro Exodus owners on the Epic Games Store, Steam and GoG. You can expect the PC Enhanced Edition to release later this Spring.
Ok, now i might pick this up for PC.
Always appreciate it but not enough to pick it up, but with these RTX upgrades im keen.
Golgo 13
The Man With The Golden Dong
I wasn’t a huge fan of the game either. I honestly can’t remember a thing about it except being annoyed and frustrated and I kept thinking to myself “when does this get good?”, and a Forrest section with some stealth? And some weird requirements for the “good” ending? Yeah fuck this game lol.
