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Metroid Prime 4 Release Date Remains Unknown at Nintendo

Danjin44

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I wish other developers announced their games like Monolith Soft does, announce your game when it ready instead of just showing logo and decade later release the game.
 

Woopah

Member
I wish other developers announced their games like Monolith Soft does, announce your game when it ready instead of just showing logo and decade later release the game.
About 80% of Nintendo's games are announced that way. Things like Bayonetta 3 and Prime 4 are definitely the exception.
 

Danjin44

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About 80% of Nintendo's games are announced that way. Things like Bayonetta 3 and Prime 4 are definitely the exception.
You are right which makes me question why decided jump gun this early for Prime 4 and Bayonetta 3? what is even more weird that Platinum announced Astral Chain with proper trailer and got released not long after that.
 

Aldric

Member
You are right which makes me question why decided jump gun this early for Prime 4 and Bayonetta 3? what is even more weird that Platinum announced Astral Chain with proper trailer and got released not long after that.
Remember that Prime 4, Bayo 3 but also Shin Megami Tensei 5 were all revealed during the very first year of the Switch's lifetime. To me this indicates that Nintendo wanted to signal to "hardcore gamers" for lack of a better word that they had learned from their mistakes and that this wasn't going to be another Wii situation. It was a marketing move to show that the system would have a varied catalog.
 

Danjin44

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Remember that Prime 4, Bayo 3 but also Shin Megami Tensei 5 were all revealed during the very first year of the Switch's lifetime. To me this indicates that Nintendo wanted to signal to "hardcore gamers" for lack of a better word that they had learned from their mistakes and that this wasn't going to be another Wii situation. It was a marketing move to show that the system would have a varied catalog.
If I remember correctly Xenoblade 2 also got announced in 2017, but it got released same year.

To sell Switch early in its life, based on two eagerly-awaited sequels to fan-favourite IPs. And it worked.
Sure, but its taking forever release those games.
 
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Soapbox Killer

Grand Nagus
You are right which makes me question why decided jump gun this early for Prime 4 and Bayonetta 3? what is even more weird that Platinum announced Astral Chain with proper trailer and got released not long after that.

Nintendo has appeared to have corrected themselves in this regard. The early stuff Prime 4, Bayo 3, SMT V, all announced far to early. Now (With the obvious exception of Zelda) games are announced and released within a year the majority of time it seems. Maybe Splatoon 3 breaks that, we'll see.
 

Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
More development time means better quality.
I'm not saying they shouldn't take their time developing the game but I wish the would announce the game when its ready to announce and they actually had something to show instead of just showing logo.
 

Marvel14

Member
Honestly, who writes this garbage?

"TBA" means "To Be Announced"

It doesn't in any shape or form indicate that Nintendo doesn't know when the game will be released. Perhaps they don't, but it's not what this means. It simply means they have not announced it yet. The fact that it has changed to TBA from 2022 also does not mean that they don't know. It may imply an internal delay, but not lack of insight.

I swear, people extrapolate the most uncanny and simply incorrect things when they write articles from financial results that apparently they don't have the tools to read correctly. Mind you, this is even worse because it misrepresents a simple and common acronym in English. What the...
I thought it meant "To be Assertained"...hence nobody knows yet...

#sarcasm
 

Woopah

Member
You are right which makes me question why decided jump gun this early for Prime 4 and Bayonetta 3? what is even more weird that Platinum announced Astral Chain with proper trailer and got released not long after that.
As others have said it was was largely to give people confidence in the longevity of the console in its early life. Nintendo announced 6 new first party games at the Switch reveal event, but all of them were released were in a year. They needed to show they had more.

There are also other factors specific to the games:

  • At E3 2017 Nintendo was going to announce Samus Returns, and wanted to avoid backlash by showing that Metroid was coming to Switch as well
  • At TGA 2017 Nintendo was announcing Bayonetta 1 and 2, and wanted to show people that the franchise had a future
Having said that, I'm pretty sure that if we saw Nintendo's internal plans in 2017, they would have expected both Prime 4 and Bayonetta 3 to be out before 2022.
 

Azelover

Titanic was called the Ship of Dreams, and it was. It really was.
Going to be painful to see how this looks after all these crazy good looking games recently like Forbidden West.
Yeah.. it's inevitable at this point. I have let go of that already. I'm not engaging in that conversation at all, no matter how much of it there is.
 

daclynk

Member
Going to be painful to see how this looks after all these crazy good looking games recently like Forbidden West.
well most of US Nintendo Fans dont care about graphics and Story as long as it has great Fun Gameplay.

Why don't people always bring up graphics in every Nintendo thread. We don't care about that. i thought that was long gone back in the Wii days. Just like saying is Nintendo is for Casuals.

Ohh BOTW didnt win any awards for best graphics and see how it turned out.
 
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Coolwhhip

Neophyte
well most of US Nintendo Fans dont care about graphics and Story as long as it has great Fun Gameplay.

Why don't people always bring up graphics in every Nintendo thread. We don't care about that. i thought that was long gone back in the Wii days. Just like saying is Nintendo is for Casuals.

Ohh BOTW didnt win any awards for best graphics and see how it turned out.

For most Nintendo games graphics aren't that essential, since they have the cartoony or simple look. But I think Breath of the Wild would have been a better game on better hardware, same will go for Metroid Prime 4. It even needs to be 60 fps...
 

daclynk

Member
For most Nintendo games graphics aren't that essential, since they have the cartoony or simple look. But I think Breath of the Wild would have been a better game on better hardware, same will go for Metroid Prime 4. It even needs to be 60 fps...
so let Nintendo do what they do best. if i want graphical showcases of games i will get a PC. With Playstation and Gamepass PC is the best place for that. if Metroid Prime 4 looks good as Doom 2021 i will be fine.
 
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Coolwhhip

Neophyte
I predict it will be similar to every other major Nintendo release.

Usually just a fun, super polished game that gets rave reviews. If that's pain, then I guess I'm into kinkier stuff than I thought 🤷‍♂️

Metroid is a different type of game than Kirby, Mario, Animal Crossing and so on though. Its a darker sci fi setting, its harder to get away with simple and cartoony then. Probably why you see so few games like that on Switch.
 
Metroid is a different type of game than Kirby, Mario, Animal Crossing and so on though. Its a darker sci fi setting, its harder to get away with simple and cartoony then. Probably why you see so few games like that on Switch.
Yeah, that is true. I think as long as it looks like late PS3 game it'll be more than fine. I honestly don't think anyone's going to care. When talented artists make a game, it's not really that held back. Nintendo doesn't put out anything that looks like The Last of Us 1, and the Switch could probably run that honestly. I'm not worried.
 

Lognor

Banned
Retro just updated their twitter banner to this.

Is it not just Metroid Dread art?
 

Woopah

Member
Hardly. let's remember Mother3 64, Body Harvest 64, Pikmin 4 which was meant to be almost complete in 2015 LOL
3 games from a 20+ year period doesn't disprove my point. 80%, is still a good ballpark figure. If we want to get a more accurate figure of Nintendo published games announced in the past three years we can do the math.

Excluding ports and digital only titles, these are the games Nintendo has announced since the start of 2019:

Announced with gameplay
  1. Mario Maker 2
  2. Astral Chain
  3. Links Awakening
  4. Labo Toy Con 4
  5. Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition
  6. Dr Kawashima's Brain Training for Nintendo Switch
  7. Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Rescue Team DX
  8. Clubhouse Games: 51 Worldwide Classics
  9. Paper Mario: The Origami King
  10. New Pokémon Snap
  11. Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity
  12. Mario Golf: Super Rush
  13. Triangle Strategy
  14. DC Super Hero Girls: Teen Power
  15. Splatoon 3
  16. Game Builder Garage
  17. Pokemon Brilliant Diamond & Shining Pearl
  18. Pokemon Legends Arceus
  19. Mario Party Superstars
  20. Metroid Dread
  21. Warioware: Get It Together
  22. Advance Wars 1+2 Reboot Camp
  23. Kirby & The Forgotten Land
  24. Big Brain Academy: Brain vs. Brain
  25. Fire Emblem Warriors: Three Hopes
  26. Mario Strikers: Battle League
  27. Live A Live
  28. Nintendo Switch Sports
  29. Xenoblade 3
Announced without gameplay

  1. BOTW2
  2. Ring Fit Adventure

Share of games announced with gameplay - 93.5%

Mainline Zelda is always shown too early.

Zelda definitely has a longer "announce to release" schedule than most Zelda games, but even then Twilight Princess, Skyward Sword and Link Between Worlds were all announced with gameplay. BOTW and BOTW were not though.
 
3 games from a 20+ year period doesn't disprove my point. 80%, is still a good ballpark figure. If we want to get a more accurate figure of Nintendo published games announced in the past three years we can do the math.

Excluding ports and digital only titles, these are the games Nintendo has announced since the start of 2019:

Announced with gameplay
  1. Mario Maker 2
  2. Astral Chain
  3. Links Awakening
  4. Labo Toy Con 4
  5. Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition
  6. Dr Kawashima's Brain Training for Nintendo Switch
  7. Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Rescue Team DX
  8. Clubhouse Games: 51 Worldwide Classics
  9. Paper Mario: The Origami King
  10. New Pokémon Snap
  11. Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity
  12. Mario Golf: Super Rush
  13. Triangle Strategy
  14. DC Super Hero Girls: Teen Power
  15. Splatoon 3
  16. Game Builder Garage
  17. Pokemon Brilliant Diamond & Shining Pearl
  18. Pokemon Legends Arceus
  19. Mario Party Superstars
  20. Metroid Dread
  21. Warioware: Get It Together
  22. Advance Wars 1+2 Reboot Camp
  23. Kirby & The Forgotten Land
  24. Big Brain Academy: Brain vs. Brain
  25. Fire Emblem Warriors: Three Hopes
  26. Mario Strikers: Battle League
  27. Live A Live
  28. Nintendo Switch Sports
  29. Xenoblade 3
Announced without gameplay

  1. BOTW2
  2. Ring Fit Adventure

Share of games announced with gameplay - 93.5%



Zelda definitely has a longer "announce to release" schedule than most Zelda games, but even then Twilight Princess, Skyward Sword and Link Between Worlds were all announced with gameplay. BOTW and BOTW were not though.


I haven't even begun to list the Nintendo games shown off only to be delayed for years or to not even make it out.

Zelda 64, Zelda BOTW, Mario Artist 64, Pokemon Stadium, Kirby 64, Super Paper Mario, Jungle Emperor Leo 64, StarFox/Dinosaur planet, Enteral Darkness Ect
Of course, when Nintendo does it, it makes sense and 'take your time'. When others do it, the game is in development hell
 

Woopah

Member
I haven't even begun to list the Nintendo games shown off only to be delayed for years or to not even make it out.

Zelda 64, Zelda BOTW, Mario Artist 64, Pokemon Stadium, Kirby 64, Super Paper Mario, Jungle Emperor Leo 64, StarFox/Dinosaur planet, Enteral Darkness Ect
Of course, when Nintendo does it, it makes sense and 'take your time'. When others do it, the game is in development hell
Which is why I said it happens for 80% of Nintendo games not 100%. Which part of my statement do you disagree with?

If it adds clarity, my statement was in relation to Nintendo's approach now and I was not commenting on Nintendo's approach from two decades ago.
 

cireza

Member
I predict it will be similar to every other major Nintendo release.

Usually just a fun, super polished game that gets rave reviews. If that's pain, then I guess I'm into kinkier stuff than I thought 🤷‍♂️
Hopefully it will run at more than 240p. Currently playing Hyrule Warriors BotW, shit is so blurry it looks much worse than the first game on Wii U.
 
To sell Switch early in its life, based on two eagerly-awaited sequels to fan-favourite IPs. And it worked.
I dont think so. By Nintendo standards, Metroid and Bayonetta are pretty niche. They had Zelda, Mario, Mario Kart, Smash. None of those were announced several years out and are magnitudes more important in selling Switch consoles.

I believe both of those games were expected to release much sooner, but soon hit serious development problems, but, by then, it was too late to put the genie back in the bottle.
 
Which is why I said it happens for 80% of Nintendo games not 100%. Which part of my statement do you disagree with?

If it adds clarity, my statement was in relation to Nintendo's approach now and I was not commenting on Nintendo's approach from two decades ago.
Like I said it's always ok for Nintendo, just not for others, there are plenty more . Nintendo love to announce games and for us to be left waiting years for it, they do it all the time for Zelda and we're still waiting for Prime 4 and Bay 3
But with Nintendo, 'just take your time
 

Woopah

Member
Like I said it's always ok for Nintendo, just not for others, there are plenty more . Nintendo love to announce games and for us to be left waiting years for it, they do it all the time for Zelda and we're still waiting for Prime 4 and Bay 3
But with Nintendo, 'just take your time
But I never said its okay for Nintendo and not for others, nor did I use the phrase "just take your time" anywhere in this thread.That's a strawman argument you've brought up yourself.

What I said was that in recent years around 80% of games Nintendo publishes have been announced with gameplay and the majority have been released within one year. That is a true statement.
 

sinnergy

Member
Like I said it's always ok for Nintendo, just not for others, there are plenty more . Nintendo love to announce games and for us to be left waiting years for it, they do it all the time for Zelda and we're still waiting for Prime 4 and Bay 3
But with Nintendo, 'just take your time
Yes, they earned this right .. when they take time everything is fine ..

Nintendo quality.
 
But I never said its okay for Nintendo and not for others, nor did I use the phrase "just take your time" anywhere in this thread.That's a strawman argument you've brought up yourself.

What I said was that in recent years around 80% of games Nintendo publishes have been announced with gameplay and the majority have been released within one year. That is a true statement.
You added in recent. Nintendo current record isn't great. We've been waiting years for the new Zelda, Bay 3 and Prime 4.
 

Woopah

Member
You added in recent. Nintendo current record isn't great. We've been waiting years for the new Zelda, Bay 3 and Prime 4.
Right, but again I said 80% not 100%. Nintendo's announcement strategy for BOTW2, Bayonetta 3 and Prime 4 is very different from its announcement strategy for the other 80% of the games it publishes. I did a list earlier in this thread to prove that.
 
Right, but again I said 80% not 100%. Nintendo's announcement strategy for BOTW2, Bayonetta 3 and Prime 4 is very different from its announcement strategy for the other 80% of the games it publishes. I did a list earlier in this thread to prove that.
Really?

Zelda BOTW 2, Bay 3, Prime 4 were all announced years ago and all are still yet to be released. I'll be amazed if Prime even comes out of the Switch myself and be it on the Switch successor instead
 
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SpongebobSquaredance

Unconfirmed Member
You added in recent. Nintendo current record isn't great. We've been waiting years for the new Zelda, Bay 3 and Prime 4.
if you look up their recent direct, everything shown will be released this year.
 

mnkl1

Neo Member
Metroid is a different type of game than Kirby, Mario, Animal Crossing and so on though. Its a darker sci fi setting, its harder to get away with simple and cartoony then. Probably why you see so few games like that on Switch.
remember halo 4? it's going to look like that. also the switch handled alien isolation pretty well.
 

Woopah

Member
Really?

Zelda BOTW 2, Bay 3, Prime 4 were all announced years ago and all are still yet to be released. I'll be amazed if Prime even comes out of the Switch myself and be it on the Switch successor instead
Yes, really. You can look at the list yourself and see that I'm right.

Games like BOTW2, Bayonetta 3 and Prime 4 are part of the other 20% of Nintendo published games that didn't get announced with gameplay.

I'm not saying that every Nintendo game get announced with gameplay, just a large majority.
 
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