dibella360
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How can both these statements be true? "Sony chief warns technical problems persist for cloud gaming" ... while we also learned from the CMA this?
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reinking
Gold Member
"I think cloud itself is an amazing business model, but when it comes to games, the technical difficulties are high”
Difficult ≠ impossible
IFireflyl
Gold Member
SenjutsuSage
has blocked me on Twitter.
This was the tweet thread that apparently set him off:
How are people this sensitive? I mean, is it me? Am I just a raging a-hole, and I'm not seeing it?
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sainraja
Member
Well, you obviously do care about an "ecosystem", and that is one by Microsoft. Microsoft has convinced you that Game Pass is the way forward (paying a monthly price for access to their games). You don't care if they buy out the whole industry to do that, leaving them in control, because that seemingly gives you what you want, the thing you like about their current ecosystem, the one that is built around Game Pass. So, yes, you quite obviously do care about ecosystems.
What you don't understand, or maybe just don't want to, is that Microsoft is capable of doing things that leave you with no choice but their ecosystem if left uncontrolled. Most of us don't want that. Maybe A&B won't do that, but that doesn't necessarily say anything about what their intent might or might not be.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
There is as much proof that's Mark Cerny as there is that it was nVidia.
Where does it ever say "Mark Cerny" outside of twittard bot influencers?
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GHG
Member
Because the person whose tweets you are quoting is stirring up shit by speculating that it's Sony who made those statements:
As usually some people ran with it because it's what they wanted to hear and/or it fit a narrative they were intending to push at the time. Even digital foundry (specifically Alex) ended up quoting that tweet of his in their weekly discussion without first attempting to verify whether or not there was any truth to it. It's the age old "I read a tweet about this, so it must be true" fallacy.
If you actually read the documents he's referencing you would realise that it could be any company who made those statements, so to jump to the conclusion that it must be Sony is a reach and a half.
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The Pleasure
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This was the tweet thread that apparently set him off:
How are people this sensitive? I mean, is it me? Am I just a raging a-hole, and I'm not seeing it?
Twatter for these xbox fans be like
Edmund
Member
This was the tweet thread that apparently set him off:
How are people this sensitive? I mean, is it me? Am I just a raging a-hole, and I'm not seeing it?
He and Mueller sound like people who will both self-immolate when the deal gets blocked.
bender
What time is it?
Mark Cerny called me at midnight and said:
… Ooh bender, I love your way, everyday yeah, yeah
Ooh, bender, I love your way, everyday
… Shadows grow so long before my eyes
And they're moving across the page
Suddenly the day turns into night
Far away, from the city
But don't, oh no, hesitate
'Cause your love just won't wait (Hey yeah, yeah)
… Ooh bender, I love your way, everyday
I wanna tell you I love your way, everyday yeah, yeah
I wanna be with you night and day
… The moon appears to shine and light the skies
With the help of some fireflies
I wonder how they have the power to shine, shine, shine
I can see them under the pine
But don't, oh no no, hesitate, la di dah
'Cause your love, just won't wait (Hey yeah, yeah)
… Ooh bender, I love your way, everyday
I wanna tell you I love your way, everyday (Hey yeah)
I wanna be with you night and day (Whoa bender, oh bender please)
… Everyday yeah, yeah
I would love, I would love ya
I love your way (Oh bender please)
… I can see the sunset in your eyes
Brown and grey and blue besides
Clouds are stalking islands in the sun
I wish I could buy one out of season
But don't, oh no no, hesitate, la di dah
'Cause your love just won't wait, just won't wait
… Ooh bender, I love your way (Every, everyday)
I wanna tell you I love your way
(I wanna tell you how I love your little ways)
I wanna be with you night and day (Everyday, in every way)
… Ooh bender, I love your way (Ooh bender how I love your little ways, yeah)
I wanna tell you I love your way (I wanna tell you how I)
(I wanna tell you how I love your little ways)
I wanna be with you night and day
Ooh bender, I love your way (Ooh, bender, bender)
… Ooh bender, I love your way, everyday yeah, yeah
Ooh, bender, I love your way, everyday
… Shadows grow so long before my eyes
And they're moving across the page
Suddenly the day turns into night
Far away, from the city
But don't, oh no, hesitate
'Cause your love just won't wait (Hey yeah, yeah)
… Ooh bender, I love your way, everyday
I wanna tell you I love your way, everyday yeah, yeah
I wanna be with you night and day
… The moon appears to shine and light the skies
With the help of some fireflies
I wonder how they have the power to shine, shine, shine
I can see them under the pine
But don't, oh no no, hesitate, la di dah
'Cause your love, just won't wait (Hey yeah, yeah)
… Ooh bender, I love your way, everyday
I wanna tell you I love your way, everyday (Hey yeah)
I wanna be with you night and day (Whoa bender, oh bender please)
… Everyday yeah, yeah
I would love, I would love ya
I love your way (Oh bender please)
… I can see the sunset in your eyes
Brown and grey and blue besides
Clouds are stalking islands in the sun
I wish I could buy one out of season
But don't, oh no no, hesitate, la di dah
'Cause your love just won't wait, just won't wait
… Ooh bender, I love your way (Every, everyday)
I wanna tell you I love your way
(I wanna tell you how I love your little ways)
I wanna be with you night and day (Everyday, in every way)
… Ooh bender, I love your way (Ooh bender how I love your little ways, yeah)
I wanna tell you I love your way (I wanna tell you how I)
(I wanna tell you how I love your little ways)
I wanna be with you night and day
Ooh bender, I love your way (Ooh, bender, bender)
Drell
Member
How much time until the usual ban for too much console warring?A fanboy for saying I support the deal purely on the basis of getting games cheaper. Yea ok
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GHG
Member
Twatter for these xbox fans be like
It's not just there. It you dare to call out any combination of their misinformation/bullshit/hypocrisy on here by providing receipts and/or evidence they malfunction and put you on an ignore list.
It's pathetic, and it's all because they want to be able to spread their bullshit in peace. They don't want to engage with the truth, it's almost like they are scared of it for some reason.
The Pleasure
Member
Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
GHG
Member
The Pleasure
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MasterCornholio
Member
3liteDragon
Member
Just remember that the people who are bringing up the “exit the UK” strategy are the same geniuses who thought this deal was gonna go through without a hitch, about a year ago & had the gall to call everyone else armchair regulators who disagreed with their batshit crazy takes.
Yea, Microsoft will close the deal without the FTC & CMA by exiting both countries. I mean when you really think about it, why the hell did they need regulatory approval for this deal in the first place from any country when they could’ve just closed it the day after announcing the acquisition?
Their influencers are just as retarded lmao.
Yea, Microsoft will close the deal without the FTC & CMA by exiting both countries. I mean when you really think about it, why the hell did they need regulatory approval for this deal in the first place from any country when they could’ve just closed it the day after announcing the acquisition?
Their influencers are just as retarded lmao.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
This deal is good for gamers because it enables "more games for everyone* wherever they choose to play"Just remember that the people who are bringing up the “exit the UK” strategy are the same geniuses who thought this deal was gonna go through without a hitch, about a year ago & had the gall to call everyone else armchair regulators who disagreed with their batshit crazy takes.
Yea, Microsoft will close the deal without the FTC & CMA by exiting both countries. I mean when you really think about it, why the hell did they need regulatory approval for this deal in the first place from any country when they could’ve just closed it the day after announcing the acquisition?
Their influencers are just as retarded lmao.
*except for UK gamers because Microsoft should pull out of that country and abandon their customers so I can get Diablo 4 on Game Pass.
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Calverz
Member
By stating that I do care about ecosystems, doesn’t mean I do lol.
I have already stated that if Sony, Nintendo, whoever, offered a similar subscription with first party released day one, pc day one and cross saves, I would also support them buying ABK. I’m a multi platform owner.
Riky
$MSFT
Or maybe he's got a massive actual game showcase on Sunday.
The Pleasure
Member
Every time these xbox shills whine about being confronted, i feel they're trump as an emo song. Song is a banger.
CuNi
Member
I'm not saying it will happen or that it should happen, but rather want to set something straight.
You do know that in the unlikely scenario that ATVI does pull out of the UK, they will just release their products through a third party, right?
Them leaving doesn't remove their games from the UK. It would be the same situation that Blizzard was using in China with NetEase.
I still can't see them actually doing it, but to be fair, I would've never guessed they'd try to buy AVTI to begin with, so what do I know. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
X-Wing
Member
That comment was probably not from Sony…
Not only is that particular part not from Sony (likely nvidia) but it's not even contradictory. Sony chief said this after saying there are technical difficulties.
“So there will be challenges to cloud gaming, but we want to take on those challenges.”
So he only said they know there are technical difficulties but they are trying to take on those challenges and improve it. People are trying to turn that into some gotcha by turning it into an impossibility.
Neofire
Member
Wonder what happened to that "more games for everyone wherever they choose to play" after they bought Bethesda lol and canceled versions of certain games
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Wonder what happened to that "more games for everyone wherever they choose to play" after they bought Bethesda lol and canceled versions of certain games
Topher
Gold Member
This was the tweet thread that apparently set him off:
How are people this sensitive? I mean, is it me? Am I just a raging a-hole, and I'm not seeing it?
Ah.....he is adopting Florian's habits is he? Not surprising considering he is repeating Florian's lie about being able waive government approvals. And yet, you look at replies and there a bunch of folks just hanging on every damn word. Fucking lemmings.
KungFucius
King Snowflake
How many of the people who said the deal wouldn't go through years ago cited cloud gaming as the reason? And how many of the people who said it would argued about the console angle? I mean basically you are saying "I told you so" when you didn't and lumping in some absurd fringe cases with those who were right up to a point. Right in the sense that the CMA did not block this due to competition in the console space.Just remember that the people who are bringing up the “exit the UK” strategy are the same geniuses who thought this deal was gonna go through without a hitch, about a year ago & had the gall to call everyone else armchair regulators who disagreed with their batshit crazy takes.
Yea, Microsoft will close the deal without the FTC & CMA by exiting both countries. I mean when you really think about it, why the hell did they need regulatory approval for this deal in the first place from any country when they could’ve just closed it the day after announcing the acquisition?
Their influencers are just as retarded lmao.
KungFucius
King Snowflake
Whatabout some other deal? That is a poor argument for anything.Wonder what happened to that "more games for everyone wherever they choose to play" after they bought Bethesda lol and canceled versions of certain games
They claim that this deal is better for more people and it appears to be a reasonable argument since they made deals to put the games on more platforms than they currently are. What is your argument against the validity of their claim that does not involve looking at how a previous acquisition that was 1/10th the size was handled? Nintendo and GFN have significant userbases.
I am still in the camp that MS will/should release Starfield on PlayStation in the future because the guaranteed millions of sales seems to be worth more than the value they could get by the tiny fraction of PS5 owners who don't have PCs and go out and buy into Xbox to play it.
Topher
Gold Member
The argument is that the games on these other platforms have a expiration date. In 10 years Microsoft can legally yank every ABK back into the fold and no one can do anything about it. Phil Spencer has said COD will stay on PlayStation and I believe he is being honest, but there is no guarantee Phil Spencer will be at Xbox in 10 years. You've got the most popular gaming franchise in the world being owned by a single platform holder. Having said that, referencing how the Bethesda deal was handled is not a poor argument at all. The size of the deal isn't the issue. The actions taken are. You cannot tell me it would shock anyone if somewhere down the road Call of Duty becomes exclusive to Xbox.
Ar¢tos
Member
The "positive" side of that is that some other multiplatform game would become the "new" CoD, probably Battlefield, if EA gets their shit together in 10 years.
LoveCake
Member
What do you do when Nintendo pays for an exclusive?
You just want the deal to go through so you don't have to buy a Sony console basically.
HoofHearted
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sainraja
Member
So, you are just in denial. I mean, if you didn't care, the items you listed wouldn't matter to you, not enough to make it a deciding factor for you. You've chosen Microsoft's ecosystem for their "...subscription with first party released day one, pc day one and cross saves..."; that is choosing an ecosystem, and because of it, you don't seem to care right now how they get content for you there. Yeah, no surprise that you would support them buying ABK.
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Gone
Banned
I mean someone had to be leading.
Should we all wait for Sony to catch up or why haven't they lead the way from the start? Because it wasn't a good investment for them.
Again, there are thousands of other games. No specific group of games made by one publisher will decide the fate of the cloud market. And Microsoft already made legally binding agreements to bring Activision Blizzard games to other cloud gaming providers.
Calverz
Member
Some mental gymnastics you are putting yourself through. I don’t think I can make myself any clearer. You can justify it any way you would like if it helps you. It’s very simple. Microsoft are taking steps to try and become the netflix of games. I like this. If Sony tried this. I would support them. But currently they aren’t.So, you are just in denial. I mean, if you didn't care, the items you listed wouldn't matter to you, not enough to make it a deciding factor for you. You've chosen Microsoft's ecosystem for their "...subscription with first party released day one, pc day one and cross saves..."; that is choosing an ecosystem, and because of it, you don't seem to care right now how they get content for you there. Yeah, no surprise that you would support them buying ABK.
PaintTinJr
Member
Can I ask a question?
In the Sony chief thread you claim where you are in Iraq that Wifi is limited to 1Mb/s, so I'm confused how you would take any interest in gamepass, given you lack the broadband to download games digitally - by that Iraq claim - and fall below the 15Mbit/s to even use GeforceNow or Boosteroid's services via cloud gaming.
It just doesn't add up IMO for you to be defending this purchase when CoD at 500GB install AFAIK on PS5 and the disc is just a digital key requiring that all to be downloaded is beyond your internet access - given your 5G mobile was having trouble with 800KB thumbnail IIRC.
PaintTinJr
Member
Taking a quick look at the technical specs needed for Boosteroid and GeforceNow, it is interesting that despite being sold as simple in a browser options the requirements still need brand new MacOS or Windows 10 x64bit on PC with a minimum of 2.5Ghz processor, 5GHz wifi, xbox 360 as the default pad interface, etc, etc which all points to them really just being Windows Desktop thick clients(ie still just the Microsoft Windows Platform), and not really the platform agnostic Cloud gaming thin-client that cloud will eventually be.
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harry mason 1989
Banned
He's the only winner from all this mess lolActivision didn't challenged CMA decision.
The valid date is off the table by weeks already, seems like Bobby is ready to accept that 3B check
And he will keep his position
Banjo64
cumsessed
He’s from Iraq like another poster was from Lancaster.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
X-Wing
Member
Weren’t they added to Microsoft’s motion or something?Activision didn't challenged CMA decision.
The valid date is off the table by weeks already, seems like Bobby is ready to accept that 3B check
Gone
Banned
I didn't claim anything. The internet here sucks and I posted the screenshot because for the last 3 weeks, the internet has been even worse than normal and I just wanted people to see how bad the internet in this country is.
It's impossible to play on cloud for me right now and it'll be like this for the foreseeable future.
I can download games, it just takes a day or two to download one game and that's why I use my laptop to do so because if I use any console then I'll have to deal with the constant shutting down of electricity. And this is also why I'm buying the RoG Ally.
Have a great day.
Topher
Gold Member
Then why is Microsoft paying $69 billion when they could buy thousands of other games for a hell of a lot less money?
Ronin_7
Banned
The Era lawyer said they're two different organizations and have to submit different challenges but i don't know shit.
Banjo64
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X-Wing
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