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[Lunatic_Gamer]

Dead Space Remake has hit hard across PS5, PC, Xbox Series X|S last week. But the biggest sound came from the Variable Rate shading implementation used across all platforms. After Motive patched the Frostbite engine to remove VRS on PS5 and add an option on PC, I turned the ship around and went back in for a closer look. Comparing V1 to the new patch against PC, PS5, Series X and S, join me in turning up the lights, quite literally, as we get into the guts of just what is Variable rate shading.

Chapters
0:00 What's on today's episode
0:30 VRS Patch details on PS5 & PC
1:05 Shining a light on VRS
1:45 VRS on vs Off the Before and After
2:33 What is VRS and TIer 1 vs Tier 2
5:05 The crux of the Image quality problem
6:11 VRS Performance gains vs Image Quality PS5 & PC
9:18 Was VRS worth implementing here including performance tests?
13:03 Summary and a honest appraisal of the issue

 

[Ezekiel_]

VRS was completely useless...

 

[Gaiff]

What puzzles me is how come no one saw this? Didn't anyone in QC say: God damn, the image quality sucks!

Instead, we needed outlets like DF to point out how poor the resolution is. The simple fix was just to toggle VRS off.

 

[mansoor1980]

VRS...........

OVERHYPED TECH

 

[Thief1987]

VRS was completely useless...

Not sure about that, i will wait for Riky's explanation with links to ms marketing videos before making any conclusions.

 

[Heisenberg007]

VRS was completely useless...

 

[Elios83]

Conclusion?
They fixed it? Disabled it? Performance hit?

 

[Hobbygaming]

I remember VRS made the road in Dirt 5 look like crap when these consoles launched

 

[DenchDeckard]

Any form of performance hit?

 

[Swift_Star]

Conclusion?
They fixed it? Disabled it? Performance hit?

They Disabled it

 

[Swift_Star]

Any form of performance hit?

No performance hit, IQ is severely improved.

 

[Gambit2483]

No performance hit, IQ is severely improved.

Wow...just..wow.

 

[Elios83]

No performance hit, IQ is severely improved.

Lol! So it was useless

This thread will get 30 replies at best since those people that seemed so interested in the VRS discussion just took the latest "L"

 

[Kacho]

Wow it really did look like shit on PS5 before the patch

 

[Swift_Star]

VRS is utter trash

 

[solidus12]

I still remember the fuss about VRS and the full RDNA 2 suite of features…

 

[Physiognomonics]

80% of his video is to damage control the VRS and explaining why it was not such a big deal (he barely talked about the problem in his main video, "no drama" about it cause it was not such a big deal etc).

Then in the middle of it he says VRS off costs only a negligeable performance on PS5 and the game is much better without it. But then he finished by saying how great VRS can be in some cases and that he wanted to avoid to compare the worst cases because the game is meant to be played with brightness 50%.

What the hell? We can really thanks DF on that one, not him. The game as it was on PS5 was great enough apparently and devs did a great job.

 

[DenchDeckard]

VRS is utter trash

This vrs implementation was utter trash.

It's obvious the devs got performance to where it wasn't needed and their software implementation was terrible plus they forgot to turn it off.

At least they got it fixed quick sticks.

 

[Swift_Star]

This vrs implementation was utter trash.

It's obvious the devs got performance to where it wasn't needed and their software implementation was terrible plus they forgot to turn it off.

At least they got it fixed quick sticks.

Why use VRS when the reconstruction techniques are enough and provide better IQ?

 

[SoraNoKuni]

But but I thought VRS was the 2nd coming of Jesus!
/s

 

[Gaiff]

I hear VRS is very good in Gears 5. To my recollection, it was meh but now I can't quite remember if I turned it off because I didn't need it or if the IQ was too bad for my liking. I'm guessing the former as I'm fairly certain I maxed it out with ease at 60fps on my old 2080 Ti.

 

[ToTTenTranz]

Come on guys, you're seeing it all wrong.

You all need to believe Microsoft's 1st party developers 100% when they claim the exclusive features on Microsoft's consoles are the best thing ever, and transformative to the gaming performance/quality/experience.
It's not like Microsoft pays them a salary or anything, they're all being 100% honest all the time.


So next time the developers from The Coalition or idSoftware tell you that VRS is bringing them 50% more frames per second then you better believe it or else!

 

[DenchDeckard]

Why use VRS when the reconstruction techniques are enough and provide better IQ?

Ask the developers that are using it correctly like infinity ward.

 

[SlimySnake]

Ban VRS from this industry. I dont want this in premium consoles. I dont want this in Series S and Switch or Switch 2. Just fuck this thing. Fuck it in the ear.

 

[solidus12]

I think that’s the drama he mentioned.

 

[Gamerguy84]

So VRS is no good in this game or overall?

 

[a multicultural team of v]

AMD: our chip features a turd
Sony: no thanks we don't want a turd
Microsoft: WE ARE PROUDLY FULLY TURD COMPLIANT AND CAN'T WAIT TO SHOW YOU GAMES TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE TURD

 

[lukilladog]

Did they fix the loading hitches on PC?

 

[Skifi28]

WE ARE PROUDLY FULLY TURD COMPLIANT AND CAN'T WAIT TO SHOW YOU GAMES TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE TURD

I laughed more than I probably should have.

 

[Hobbygaming]

I think that’s the drama he mentioned.

Phil could tell Colt there's a new Xbox controller at the bottom of the ocean and Colt's dumbass would drown trying to find it

 

[Black_Stride]

Lol! So it was useless

This thread will get 30 replies at best since those people that seemed so interested in the VRS discussion just took the latest "L"

People were interest in VRS?
When it works its great, when it doesnt its utter utter shite.

Modern Warfare did it well....this...well....I think the patch coming out so fast speaks for itself.

 

[Vick]

Ban VRS from this industry. I dont want this in premium consoles. I dont want this in Series S and Switch or Switch 2. Just fuck this thing. Fuck it in the ear.

Except combined with Eye Tracking in VR, but only because you would be physically unable to see it.

 

[Lysandros]

I think that’s the drama he mentioned.

DF/John's drama.

 

[GymWolf]

Not sure about that, i will wait for Riky's explanation with links to ms marketing videos before making any conclusions.

Pretty sure that riky advocate for vrr and not vrs.

 

[GymWolf]

People were interest in VRS?
When it works its great, when it doesnt its utter utter shite.

Modern Warfare did it well....this...well....I think the patch coming out so fast speaks for itself.

I think people are mistaking vrs with vrr, i never heard anyone praising vrs.

 

[ToTTenTranz]

AMD: our chip features a turd
Sony: no thanks we don't want a turd
Microsoft: WE ARE PROUDLY FULLY TURD COMPLIANT AND CAN'T WAIT TO SHOW YOU GAMES TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE TURD

To be fair, the turd's specs and features were determined by the team who develops DirectX.
I wonder who develops DirectX, though. I don't think it's AMD.

 

[Vick]

Pretty sure that riky advocate for vrr and not vrs.

Your info is severely outdated.

 

[GymWolf]

Your info is severely outdated.

Really? Because i clearly remember big discussions about vrr and how the blue cockroaches were playing the whole fox and the grape narrative before actually having vrr on ps5 and none about vrs.

But yeah, i don't really follow every discussion with my x-boy riky in it.

 

[SlimySnake]

I think that’s the drama he mentioned.

have they improved the framerate dips on the ps5? 49 vs locked 60 fps is not a good look.

 

[Thief1987]

Pretty sure that riky advocate for vrr and not vrs.

Then you should re-read this thread, starting from page 2
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/ea-p...bugged-graphics.1651019/page-2#post-267444051

 

[RoadHazard]

Really? Because i clearly remember big discussions about vrr and how the blue cockroaches were playing the whole fox and the grape narrative before actually having vrr on ps5 and none about vrs.

But yeah, i don't really follow every discussion with my x-boy riky in it.

That was when Xbox had VRR and PS5 didn't. Now PS5 does, so the one thing left that Xbox has that PS5 will never have (in hardware) is VRS.

 

[El Pistolero]

I think that’s the drama he mentioned.

The Xbox fanboys have something "special" compared to the rest of them...

 

[Shakka43]

Pretty sure that riky advocate for vrr and not vrs.

He switched to VRS once VRR made its way to PS5.

 

[Mr Moose]

have they improved the framerate dips on the ps5? 49 vs locked 60 fps is not a good look.

Its from some rando.

Spoiler

 

[adamsapple]

People focusing on the drama aspect and ignoring what NXG says about not cranking up the brightness to the max. The game is intended to appear dark.

 

[Swift_Star]

People focusing on the drama aspect and ignoring what NXG says about not cranking up the brightness to the max. The game is intended to appear dark.

So what? VRS still made the game look bad.

 

[Lysandros]

Its from some rando.

Even ElAnalista fraud is a better source than this, better to not share it.

 

[Swift_Star]

Even ElAnalista fraud is a better source than this, better to not share it.

Yeah people are saying the fps is bogus

 

[Mr Moose]

Even ElAnalista fraud is a better source than this, better to not share it.

Yeah, it was posted in the DF thread that's how I recognized the watermark on those pics and knew it was full of shit.

 

[solidus12]

have they improved the framerate dips on the ps5? 49 vs locked 60 fps is not a good look.

Let’s wait for a more reliable source e.g., DF, Vgtech…