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[hlm666]

I'm doing my part, finished elden ring with m/kb just like all from releases before it on pc didn't even find control ui toggle until 6 hours in because they've never bother before lol.

 

[Soltype]

Same here, controller is a last resort.If it has camera control, i'm going M/KB

 

[R6Rider]

I'm in the mostly controller camp.

RTS and games like Terraria I prefer M&KB, although there have been some RTS games with pretty good controller support.

 

[Calling 911 Melts Beams]

the other 90% are using fleshlights

 

[kingfey]

i play Sekiro with a M&K

Sekiro with controllers is bad. That is where m/k shines.

 

[Utherellus]

I spend 80% playing on my PC with M/K

I use xbox controller when playing chill relaxing games like Snowrunner, Trine2 and mostly racing stuff.

But I simply can not imagine myself playing any AAA 1st/3rd person game with controller, where I need focus, reaction and accuracy. It's a trainwreck for me. M/K combination is simply superior and fits my skills.

 

[Vaelka]

Maybe I am weird but I actually like to play singleplayer FPS games with a controller it's just more relaxing for me.
There's games tho that don't lend themselves well at all to controllers like RTS and MMO's imo or PvP FPS.

 

[osiris_128bits]

1st person always kb m. Always!

 

[Dorago]

I've used a Dual Shock 3, Dual Shock 4, Xbox 360 Wired, Wired Generic Logitech, 8BitDo SN30, and the Steam Controller. The only one that has proven usable over the long run is my precious Dual Shock 3. Dual Shock 4 has garbage analog sticks and face buttons that get stuck after less that a year of use. The Xbox 360 has the worst d-pad in memory, the face buttons get stuck, and the analog sticks are too small, the Logitech broke in under a month, the 8BitDo has really bad dead zone and really small L2 and R2 buttons, and the Steam Controller despite hours fiddling with the haptics, sensitivity, swipe angle, etc never works as well as the best my precious Dual Shock 3.

 

[rodrigolfp]

That doesn't solve the problem of having to use the wrists in both hands. My keyboard hand gets more tired actually.

It also doesn't solve the problem of having to be stuck on a desk.


good

If you need wrists you are using K&M wrong.

I play laying down on my mattress. Fuck desk and couch.

Good = not being so slow to aim/turn, not requiring claw grip to have access to all buttons at the same time, not "needing" aim assists fooling the players to think they are good at aiming, not dealing with L3 and R3 deficient "clicking" while analog sticks are tilted...

 

[Hezekiah]

That doesn't solve the problem of having to use the wrists in both hands. My keyboard hand gets more tired actually.

It also doesn't solve the problem of having to be stuck on a desk.


Modern FPS games (and source ports of older ones) usually have pretty good controller support, with the right sensitivity, dead zone, acceleration, response, etc. It's no different than playing an FPS on a console.

Some older ones are more of a pain to play such way (i found Half-Life 2 to be hard to play).

I also don't play multiplayer twitch shooters, so i don't care.

Keyboard and a wrist wrest lol

Then buy a HDMI cable.

 

[rodrigolfp]

This is the way. Unless you're playing a twitch shooter or RTS, then you're dealing with KB&M on a couch which is not awesome.

I'm using an office borrowed Dell keyboard and mouse for Windows navigation and a long ass USB splitter. Almost tempted to get a dedicated wireless kb&m just for TV use convenience. We could use a thread for comfy couch PC gaming tips.

It is with lap boards. I play laying down on my mattress...

 

[WitchHunter]

Only around 10% of Steam gaming sessions are played with a controller

Keyboard and mouse remains the PC gamer's favorite way to play.

www.pcgamer.com

Valve has released a bunch of interesting info in its Steam Year in Review 2021, including controller usage statistics. According to Valve, there are currently 48 million controllers "registered by Steam users," and they're used in over 10% of all gaming sessions. I wonder how many of those are Steam controllers?

Back in February, a Steamworks update added a new controller usage stats page where developers can see a detailed breakdown of how often players are using controllers in their games, and what kinds of controllers they're using. The data includes gamepads, flight sticks, racing pedals, and even dance pads. Basically, anything that plugs into your PC and can be used to play a game (like a banana) but isn't a mouse and keyboard is counted as a controller.

It wasn't surprising to read that, back in 2021, over 70% of fighting and sports games were played with a controller (or a fight stick), while that number falls to below 1% for RTS games. Only 7-8% of players use a controller for first-person shooters. 3rd person action/adventure games like Elden Ring saw a near 50/50 split between controller and keyboard and mouse usage, which is surprising, as the genre often puts controllers first. Elden Ring's mouse and keyboard support isn't the best, for example.

Valve offered examples of how using this data could help a dev improve controller support for their games. Suppose you notice that PlayStation controller usage falls below the global average (24%); you might want to check if the correct PS button prompts are displaying in its game instead of an Xbox controller.

Steam's year in review also noted that players logged over 21% more playtime in 2021 than 2020. The active daily users sit around 69 million, with a concurrent count of 27.4 million. Steam also delivered over 32.9 exabytes of data, which is a lot of games downloaded in 2021.

They should partner with pornhub, share unique user ids. So we would finally see which demographic wanks on game protagonists, how often and during before or after a session.

 

[Old_and_Slow]

I use a controller when I game on PC. I have a Steel Series with symmetrical analogs (Steel Series stuff rocks btw). I'm in my living room in a lay-z-boy so controller is king. I'm not playing anything competitive, just lots of builders, co-op stuff and the occasional MMO. I do have a keyboard and mouse nearby but only if the controller does not do a particular function.. For me I have never found KB/M a comfortable way to play games.

 

[iHaunter]

This 100%. Personally I wouldn't play any third person game with KB/M either, but for shooters I can at least understand it to some degree.

Shooters + RTS KB/M. 3rd Person Controller. Usually what I do.

 

[StateofMajora]

That seems extremely low.

I’d only use m&k if I was trying to be competitive online on PC.

 

[Pagusas]

90% of the games I play on Steam I play with a controller.... BUT that 10% with KBM is basically Civ and other 4x games, which account for 90%+ of my gaming time.... so how am I counted in this scenario?

 

[JackSparr0w]

M/KB the best by far. Steam controller is tolerable but any other pad is pure garbage.

HOTAS and steering wheel for flight and racing simulators of course.

 

[OverHeat]

M/KB the best by far. Steam controller is tolerable but any other pad is pure garbage.

HOTAS and steering wheel for flight and racing simulators of course.

I have a steam controller and it’s borderline trash

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Actually surprised it's that high. The most popular game on Steam that I would consider controller centric is GTAV and FIFA. Everything more popular than those two games are designed for MKB.

 

[manfestival]

FPS = KBM all day

I usually use a controller on more controller centric titles or on those where the developers plaster on the boot screen "it is recommended to use a controller."

 

[yamaci17]

i use gamepad on tps / story games
i use keyboard mouse on fps games

if the tps game has heavy aiming i can fall back to mouse keyboard

 

[rodrigolfp]

Actually surprised it's that high. The most popular game on Steam that I would consider controller centric is GTAV and FIFA. Everything more popular than those two games are designed for MKB.

I doubt many use controller on GTAV and lose the godlike gunplay on m&kb...

 

[rofif]

I've used a Dual Shock 3, Dual Shock 4, Xbox 360 Wired, Wired Generic Logitech, 8BitDo SN30, and the Steam Controller. The only one that has proven usable over the long run is my precious Dual Shock 3. Dual Shock 4 has garbage analog sticks and face buttons that get stuck after less that a year of use. The Xbox 360 has the worst d-pad in memory, the face buttons get stuck, and the analog sticks are too small, the Logitech broke in under a month, the 8BitDo has really bad dead zone and really small L2 and R2 buttons, and the Steam Controller despite hours fiddling with the haptics, sensitivity, swipe angle, etc never works as well as the best my precious Dual Shock 3.

I loved 360 dpad. Got the new 20tb aniv series controller and I am not happy about all the super mouse like clicky buttons. The dpad and shoulder buttons are so loud. I don’t like the hard micro switch feel.
Dual sense got ‘em soft buttons. No annoying clickiness

 

[rofif]

I have a steam controller and it’s borderline trash

I have two. The best thing it did was playing MIDI music with haptic lol

 

[Icymanipulator]

Count me as one of those 10%
I almost always use a controller if I have the option. Except for something like Civilization, then KBM

 

[LiquidMetal14]

As Tony Montana said,

GAH BLEASSS DEEE JEWNITED STATE OF AMERICA

 

[Damien Crowley]

Everything other than Civ and FPSs is a job for one of my many stupid controllers (I almost have a hoarding problem with these... almost...). These days I switch between the DS5 (I have no PS5, mind you) and the 8bitdo pro2.

 

[KungFucius]

Its a shame more PC gamers don't use a gaming PC as a console. I've had one hooked up to a TV for over a decade. Best entertainment system. Obviously I use a controller. I do have a lap board, and tried it once in Doom 2016, it was good, but I am too lazy to use it most of the time.

 

[VeronicaMaeKawa]

Its a shame more PC gamers don't use a gaming PC as a console. I've had one hooked up to a TV for over a decade. Best entertainment system. Obviously I use a controller. I do have a lap board, and tried it once in Doom 2016, it was good, but I am too lazy to use it most of the time.

Same here, PC gaming on TV is amazing

 

[Strider311]

I use controller more often than not. I only use KBM for precision first person shooters or rts.

 

[ArcanineEX]

I'm definitely one of those people, can't stand KB/M for any game but shooters.

 

[JimboJones]

I have a steam controller and it’s borderline trash

I've actually found use for it for my time spent playing Valheim.

 

[Huevos de Oro]

I have a steam controller and it’s borderline trash

I wanted so much to like it, and I used it for a while but it's just...bad.

 

[Xdrive05]

I wanted so much to like it, and I used it for a while but it's just...bad.

I keep going back to it thinking it will make couch gaming perfect, and then I keep getting reminded that not having a right thumbstick pretty much single handedly (har!) makes it invalid for xbox controller substitution (which is of course the standard interface and will continue to be).

 

[The_Mike]

Seems like ten percent of the steam users who use a controller are all from Gaf. Here it sounds like it's a common thing to do.

I personally hate controller for anything but racing games. I'm cheering over more and more console games are beginning to support keyboard and mouse while everyone here wants to use a controller.

 

[Damien Crowley]

At least we can say, options are good. I friggin' LOVE, that I can take ALL my controllers (even old school PS2, have an USB-adapter), plug them or pair them and Steam lets me use them (even though the PS5 Controller griefs hard, when other controllers are connected simultaneously).

 

[mcjmetroid]

Controller but then I always used to be a console gamer first and then most console games started coming to PC and I like. Fuck it lets just get a PC.

 

[Kenpachii]

Controllers are utter trash for practically everything besides a few select title. I am surprised its 10% and not 1-2%.