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Review Pathfinder : Wrath of the Righteous Reviews

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Fextralife gave it 8.8/10 https://fextralife.com/pathfinder-wrath-of-the-righteous-review-a-colossal-crpg/

Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous is a massive accomplishment in the CRPG space. The game has a lot of improvements when it comes to systems and mechanics, making it more accessible to new players and veterans alike while managing to deliver new and interesting content. If you've been meaning to dive into the immersive world of the Pathfinder Series, you certainly won't be disappointed with WotR.
World building is incredibly richer and darker featuring the use of dynamic lighting and bold colors to match the despair caused by the invasion of demons. It’s also much more reactive based on the choices you make whereas combat is as epic as it can be.

Gamespace 95

IGN Italia 87

WccfTech 8/10

WorthPlaying 90

GamingBolt 80

Opencritic 87

I'm on a huge CRPG mood lately having finished Pillar of Eternity 2 and played Tyranny and Kingmaker(Owlcat first game) recently . Honestly I'm not really into the world of Kingmaker but the darker vibe and demons/cultist/corruptions setting in WotR is right up my alley .





And also , Praise the Sun !
 
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Owlcat should be ashamed for the console release of Kingmaker. Completely broken and they just left it and moved on to this.
 

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Owlcat should be ashamed for the console release of Kingmaker. Completely broken and they just left it and moved on to this.

It was a mess on PC also but IMO for a first time IP they deserve a little lee way. And from 3 review sounds like this is solid so game on.
 

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Fextralife mentioned he didn't encounter any major bugs yet , in fact his experience is almost bugs free , which is a good news .

I've been playing Kingmaker on PC , aside from the boring world it's quite stable so I'm hopeful . Heard launch was a disaster
 
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Looking forward to this. I'll probably pick it up closer to Christmas or in October when I've got some time off. Really enjoyed Kingmaker but didn't care for any of the city management stuff.
 
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As a Fan of D&D 3.5 and the Pathfinder RPG, I'm really looking forward to this. Hopefully, I will find enough time to enjoy the game.
 

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Kingmaker was an excellent CRPG after bugs were fixed. Maybe not as good as Divinity but definitely shat all over Pillars of Eternity and Deadfire. The only potential negative of the game was a relatively bright tone and setting.

This seems to be darker, edgier and still based on Pathfinder ruleset with even more options. I played a bit of beta and preordered on Kickstarter and I'm happy to see those reviews. This was never going to get the 9-10s just because it's not AAA but high-8s is as good a validation that this game is going to be awesome as I could hope for.
 
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Have they gotten rid of time limits? That is what killed my interest in Kingmaker half-way through* when I had somehow managed to miss some companion quest due to some time constraints etc. I like to take my time and explore.

*(And I really liked the concept of building your own kingdom, it reminded me of the Keep building part in Neverwinter Nights 2)
 
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Have they gotten rid of time limits? That is what killed my interest in Kingmaker half-way through* when I had somehow managed to miss some companion quest due to some time constraints etc. I like to take my time and explore.

*(And I really liked the concept of building your own kingdom, it reminded me of the Keep building part in Neverwinter Nights 2)
Only first chapter AFAIK , then a corruption mechanic to dissuade constant resting . All in all it's more forgiving and short term .
 
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Mortismal's early review. He's still going to do his traditional review after he's 100% completed everything but that obviously takes time and he has sent an early review copy so it makes sense that he's done this too.

Personally, I'm waiting for the console release.
 
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Fextralife mentioned he didn't encounter any major bugs yet , in fact his experience is almost bugs free , which is a good news .

I've been playing Kingmaker on PC , aside from the boring world it's quite stable so I'm hopeful . Heard launch was a disaster

I find that a little strange since most other reviewers encountered a lot of bugs... myself included.

HOWEVER...

The game is wonderful apparently - I've a good friend who got a stream-early key from Owlcat and the character creation alone is ridiculously deep. Cant wait to jump in properly at the weekend.
 
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I will wait for controller support on PC or just get it on console when they release a PS5 version. Wont settle for PS4 version.
 

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I find that a little strange since most other reviewers encountered a lot of bugs... myself included.

HOWEVER...

The game is wonderful apparently - I've a good friend who got a stream-early key from Owlcat and the character creation alone is ridiculously deep. Cant wait to jump in properly at the weekend.
Oh you mean Kingmaker ? I played it just recently like this year , so I guess most of the bugs had been patched out . Also I didn't play far because I lost interest with the story . Kingdoms , conspiracies and fighting for territories are never my interest , I'm more into saving the world from demonic invasion , satanic-ism , occultist etc which is why I'm so hyped on WotR
 
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Preloaded and ready to go. This will be my shit for the next month or so.

Have they gotten rid of time limits?
They did, which is a fucking bummer given than they had a lot of systems working in concert for that.

Only tossers cry about time limits, especially given how forgiving they were.
 
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Oh you mean Kingmaker ? I played it just recently like this year , so I guess most of the bugs had been patched out . Also I didn't play far because I lost interest with the story . Kingdoms , conspiracies and fighting for territories are never my interest , I'm more into saving the world from demonic invasion , satanic-ism , occultist etc which is why I'm so hyped on WotR

Yes. I reviewed it at launch and it was a MESS. This game however, not only is it a near-perfect sequel, it does have some bugs (mostly graphical actually - no game breakers or progression breakers so far encountered). A lot of the original games bugs came from a very shaky engine, which seems has been greatly improved here.

As the reviews state it really does step forward almost every aspect of the original, and most importantly, gives the story a very linear path for you to follow and a presence that was lacking in Kingmaker. The story felt like it was 'in the background' in the first game, here it is centre stage. I am loving it - just wish I had more time to play....

The fact I can become a lich and it be so richly fleshed out is marvellous.
 
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Preloaded and ready to go. This will be my shit for the next month or so.


They did, which is a fucking bummer given than they had a lot of systems working in concert for that.

Only tossers cry about time limits, especially given how forgiving they were.
As I was progressing along the game I started to wonder why one of my companion quests hadn't triggered.
If I remember it right, in previous chapter(?) I should've had that companion in my party while traveling between two points on the map and have a random encounter to trigger it. No other way to do it, and if you went past that chapter you're screwed.

Fuck that shit.
 

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Awesome game so far with good VA and writings , as expected, loving the darker tones so far. Can't wait to play more after finishing my works tomorrow . I rolled a Fighter for Sword Dual Wield :messenger_beaming:
 
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ao I'm quite early on but some classes are seriously overpowered. Playing on hard so not even the most difficult setting and my Grenadier Alchemist is destroying everything in his path. I suspect they will address the balance issues once major bugs are dealt with but for sure mutagens and bombs need a nerf.

I haven't quite settled on my thoughts but so far it's better than Kingmaker but slightly worse than PoE 2 in terms of my cRPG 'good list'.
 

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ao I'm quite early on but some classes are seriously overpowered. Playing on hard so not even the most difficult setting and my Grenadier Alchemist is destroying everything in his path. I suspect they will address the balance issues once major bugs are dealt with but for sure mutagens and bombs need a nerf.

I haven't quite settled on my thoughts but so far it's better than Kingmaker but slightly worse than PoE 2 in terms of my cRPG 'good list'.

I love the amount of classes, chocies and such but still think they would benefit with shorter campaigns. Dont know why they still build these around 100hr+ campaigns.
 

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surprised there is no OT for this yet..


anyway, so I ran into my first game breaking bug. Had to load a save far earlier and lost a lot of progress..

there is a battle around 15 hours in that caused two of my party to become cursed. It is supposed to be curable by resting at an inn... my support wizard was cured but my main character is still perma-cursed and I cant seem to get out of it. Tried to respec to see if that worked and now I have two instances of perma curse on his ass, guess I'm fucked :( also respeccing reset all of my portraits for some reason, not sure if that is a bug or if I missed the option to change it or whatever.
 
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I love the amount of classes, chocies and such but still think they would benefit with shorter campaigns. Dont know why they still build these around 100hr+ campaigns.
I think I remember someone saying that its around 40 hours just for the main quest. Which is actually pretty good compared to the first game which is easily 100+
 
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Console release in February makes me a sad panda, but at least we should benefit from some patches by then.
I enjoyed Pathfinder more than Pillars and Divinity. My familiarity with the dnd rules and the ability to switch from rtwp to turn-based at a button press made it my favorite of the isometric rpg revival wave.
 

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Added a few more reviews .

Yeah surprised there's no OT . I'm too busy to make one , is it because CRPG isn't popular enough here in Gaf ? Meanwhile ResetEra OT is flooded with discussions :pie_thinking:
 
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I need this game in my life, I enjoyed the first one but my god does this look great! Poor as shit at the moment, hopefully I can swing this one on payday!
 

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Fextralife gave it 8.8/10 https://fextralife.com/pathfinder-wrath-of-the-righteous-review-a-colossal-crpg/




Gamespace 95

IGN Italia 87

WccfTech 8/10

WorthPlaying 90

GamingBolt 80

Opencritic 87

I'm on a huge CRPG mood lately having finished Pillar of Eternity 2 and played Tyranny and Kingmaker(Owlcat first game) recently . Honestly I'm not really into the world of Kingmaker but the darker vibe and demons/cultist/corruptions setting in WotR is right up my alley .



Yeah ok, but if the gameplay is still 350+ hours I'm not interested.
 

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surprised there is no OT for this yet..


anyway, so I ran into my first game breaking bug. Had to load a save far earlier and lost a lot of progress..

there is a battle around 15 hours in that caused two of my party to become cursed. It is supposed to be curable by resting at an inn... my support wizard was cured but my main character is still perma-cursed and I cant seem to get out of it. Tried to respec to see if that worked and now I have two instances of perma curse on his ass, guess I'm fucked :( also respeccing reset all of my portraits for some reason, not sure if that is a bug or if I missed the option to change it or whatever.
Write to the devs. We can't/won't hack the game for you.
 

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I have a question. When do you get the animal companion? I've chosen a pre existing character but i don't have a companion, will the animal companion join me later or do i have to choose him in the character creator from the get go?
 
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I think I remember someone saying that its around 40 hours just for the main quest. Which is actually pretty good compared to the first game which is easily 100+

As a completionist and plays on the hardest difficulty, 40 would be me just getting out of the starting area.
 
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Shit, I started Kingmaker on core rules and was getting battered and bruised so I dialed some stuff back. I appreciate the vast amount of difficulty and gameplay tweaks they offer. You can cruise through on easy street or make it as masochistic as possible, it's up to you.
 

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Just bought last night. Took me an hour to create my character lol and I feel like redoing it again. There was so much shit there, a fuckignw et dream, even if kinda buggy.
 

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I really wanna try this game but deep down I know it won't stick. One of those games I like the idea of liking, but always lose me pretty early on.
 
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5 hours in and so far it's been a pretty bugless experience. The game's amazing, a huge improvement over Kingmaker in every possible area.

It's mind blowing how many different classes, races, and skills are there.
 

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Haven't played it that much yet but was happy to see they fixed all of the bugs I had from the early access version. Kingmaker was a fantastic game (better than Pillars in almost everything) shadowed but how buggy it was at launch (it's perfectly fine now). Hopefully the studio gets with Wrath the recognition they deserve.
 

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I really enjoyed Pathfinder: Kingmaker back when it released, however I felt it was overly long. There reaches a point where there can be *too* much content and I lose interest in finishing the game. I am very glad the CRPG space is getting more titles, but I am a bit disappointed to see that this is another one that seems to cross that 100+ hour mark.
 
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Now the really important question: Do your characters still have those stupid class-assigned outfits or does their appearance change with their armor?

I really enjoyed Pathfinder: Kingmaker back when it released, however I felt it was overly long. There reaches a point where there can be *too* much content and I lose interest in finishing the game. I am very glad the CRPG space is getting more titles, but I am a bit disappointed to see that this is another one that seems to cross that 100+ hour mark.
I get you, but because we only seem to get quality CRPGs every few years, I'd be pretty disappointed if any of them were short affairs. If they reached first-person shooter levels of release frequency, then I'd probably be fine with it, but not with how things are now. Also, I've read the game is beatable in around 40 hours if you don't go out of your way, which seems entirely reasonable to me for this genre.
 
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It's a massive and complex 100+ hour crpg that only released on PC so far. We might get more when it releases on consoles next year.
Yeah, but i think Journalists should be able to review all games, there are exclusive console games that are open world 100+ hours and they will release 80+ reviews days before, or some JRPG with 100+ hours as well, its weird that this game is getting 7 reviews so far and its after its release. 7 Reviews on metacritic! wow thats really low.
Do you know if any journalist from the popular gaming magazines/websites work on it? Looks like incompetence on their part tbh.
 
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After the updates and mods the first pathfinder eventually turns into one of my favorite games of all time. Hopefully this is even better over time.
 

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Yeah, but i think Journalists should be able to review all games, there are exclusive console games that are open world 100+ hours and they will release 80+ reviews days before, or some JRPG with 100+ hours as well, its weird that this game is getting 7 reviews so far and its after its release. 7 Reviews on metacritic! wow thats really low.
Do you know if any journalist from the popular gaming magazines/websites work on it? Looks like incompetence on their part tbh.
They probably haven't looked at it because they probably won't get the traffic that would warrant them allocating resources to it. They won't until BG3 comes out because that's the one upcoming title in this space that will move the needle. Remember that DoS2 is considered a monumental success in this genre and it sold a little over 1 million copies. It's not incompetence, it's just business and the unfortunate reality that a lot of people just don't really care for these types of games nowadays.
 
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First time in a long while I actually played a game for almost a whole day straight now. Feels like the good old days again where games are just immersive without those AAA bullshit nowadays

Don't really have a problem with the length, quality CRPGs are very few and far between. Its okay to take your time and slowly progress through the game.
 
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Console release in February makes me a sad panda, but at least we should benefit from some patches by then.
I enjoyed Pathfinder more than Pillars and Divinity. My familiarity with the dnd rules and the ability to switch from rtwp to turn-based at a button press made it my favorite of the isometric rpg revival wave.
I never could get into Pillars lore, mostly because every fucking race and subrace had a completely alien name which prevented me from catching the early clues of who's who and what's what. They would talk redceras and arloutedrfdf;sdljfs and I had no fucking clue whether they were talking about humans, elves or dwarves.

I was completely lost.

And you know what's the stupidest thing? Fuckers had a lore cyclopedia in the game and they didn't bother to put the races in there.
 

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Pathfinder using a variation of the D&D ruleset and lore stuff definitely makes it easier for me to engage with. Most of this stuff is familiar to me, even though I haven't played since 2nd ed. AD&D.
 
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To those who are more...picky and anti-feminist, be warned, the game has a very strong female presence, sorta like Tyranny. I'm still at the beginning but the first hours you have 3 or 4 woman companions, strong female leaders, lesbian couple, etc. It's on the nose, for sure, but the writing does not seem to suffer for it. They just basically made more female characters, opposite of what we're used to. It also seems whoever wrote the character creation spells/details only had women in mind because no matter what gender you pick it's always her in the description "using her abilities does w/e.." Could be a bug. That being said, I am playing on Hard and it took me an hour or so with luck and tons of potions and scrolls to beat a boss after dying 100 times. Enjoying it so far.
 

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To those who are more...picky and anti-feminist, be warned, the game has a very strong female presence, sorta like Tyranny. I'm still at the beginning but the first hours you have 3 or 4 woman companions, strong female leaders, lesbian couple, etc. It's on the nose, for sure, but the writing does not seem to suffer for it. They just basically made more female characters, opposite of what we're used to. It also seems whoever wrote the character creation spells/details only had women in mind because no matter what gender you pick it's always her in the description "using her abilities does w/e.." Could be a bug. That being said, I am playing on Hard and it took me an hour or so with luck and tons of potions and scrolls to beat a boss after dying 100 times. Enjoying it so far.
Previous Pathfinder had many pro-feminist vibes as well, but nothing that made you cringe. It was written well.

Tabletop games have been embracing diversity for a while now, DnD most of all - which makes sense considering the player base has shifted, somewhat. DnD was always about the unsocial nerd coming out of their shell and be a hero in their own little fantasy world - and minorities are no different. Having a game where you can 'live out' your LBGT fantasies must have great appeal to them.
 
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Now the really important question: Do your characters still have those stupid class-assigned outfits or does their appearance change with their armor?


I get you, but because we only seem to get quality CRPGs every few years, I'd be pretty disappointed if any of them were short affairs. If they reached first-person shooter levels of release frequency, then I'd probably be fine with it, but not with how things are now. Also, I've read the game is beatable in around 40 hours if you don't go out of your way, which seems entirely reasonable to me for this genre.

Sounds good! I will probably pick it up on sale in a year or so (or whenever MandaloreGaming reviews it and gets GoG to do a deep discount). I will keep trying to finish the first game over the next year or so. Best thing about these CRPGs is that they are pretty easy to pick back up after you finish a chapter/act.
 

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This coming out reminded me i was supposed to finish kingmaker and came back to a save file with a 75% of the game done after 1.5 year. Its been pretty weird, doesnt help that i played it while drinking usually so i half remember most of the plot points. Good thing is i seemed to have been very op so kind of steamrolling through stuff, its fun.

Will do wrath after this.

Small advise to Pathfinder / d&d newcomers, dont stress much on multiclassing. More often than not, its better/easier to go through with 1 class all the way then dip into another class.
 
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