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vodka-bull
Member
No Man's Sky got a ton of free Updates and Bug Fixes, so no, Starfield will never be No Man's Sky 2.
GymWolf
Member
The 1000 planets thing sound like it.
Not sure why people is excited for that since they are probably gonna be 20 planets with actual handmade content and 980 planets with ia/random generated crap.
Don't get me wrong i like gigantic games, but people were tired of Ac bloating but they are happy for even more bloating?
Not sure why people is excited for that since they are probably gonna be 20 planets with actual handmade content and 980 planets with ia/random generated crap.
Don't get me wrong i like gigantic games, but people were tired of Ac bloating but they are happy for even more bloating?
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Mephisto40
Member
Starfield is going to look better purely because it's not the same sort of game as no mans sky
In no mans sky you can seamlessly travel from planet to planet
In starfield you are limited to a menu where you select your landing zone from, and then you watch a cutscene of your ship landing
Comparing the two is like saying mass effect and elite dangerous are the same type of game, which is complete bs
In no mans sky you can seamlessly travel from planet to planet
In starfield you are limited to a menu where you select your landing zone from, and then you watch a cutscene of your ship landing
Comparing the two is like saying mass effect and elite dangerous are the same type of game, which is complete bs
PianistaMacabro
Member
Visual wise no man sky is alot more interesting than no man skyrim
BigBooper
Member
No. That's silly. Show me a city in No Man's Sky. Show me a quest chain. Dialogue options.
The rest we don't know. Whether the other planets have any worthwhile reasons to visit. Whether there's survival mechanics.
It's No Man's Sky 2 in the same way that Astroneer is Kerbal Space Program 2.
The rest we don't know. Whether the other planets have any worthwhile reasons to visit. Whether there's survival mechanics.
It's No Man's Sky 2 in the same way that Astroneer is Kerbal Space Program 2.
Wildebeest
Member
The one only thing like NMS was the mining tool.
Katajx
Gold Member
Hey, thank you for this! I forgot Mass Effect was a thing. I feel like I need to try more sci fi games.
MarkyG
Member
Agree with this totally. NMS feels lifeless, unless you're playing online with buddies.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Graphically no. Mechanically… yep, there are some similarities there, alright.
Starfield clearly has a far more expanded story and characters though.
Starfield clearly has a far more expanded story and characters though.
PaintTinJr
Member
I might be wrong - as I'm only going by what I read in the comments, as haven't had time to watch the video without a quick scan - but the most difficult part of such a game to convince the audience they are in this universe is the leaving and entering orbit, and even the ~6year old launch day version of No Man's Sky completely nails the X-wing Dagobah entry and take off IMO. And from the comments Starfield doesn't let you control the landing part at all.
Here's the thing...in a parallel universe if the Starfield Bethesda staff all decided to join Hello games, today, in 12month's time which game would be able to deliver on the shared vision better? Hello game's bespoke in-house engine would probably be easier to visually enhance and probably still run at a full 60fps on Series or PlayStation IMO. So if Hello games were absorbed into an RPG publisher company a No Man's Sky sequel could arrive to market before Starfield and probably technically better in all areas going by where Starfield is for frame-rate and pacing - on XsX? or RTX 4090/RX 7800XT PC?
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TBiddy
Member
Forgive me. But is this a serious question?
DoctorEkkoUK
Member
I don't think that being like NMS is a bad thing anyway for the exploration and mining side of things. However I am quite confident that the RPG elements, story, missions and dialogues will be far superior as this is what Bethesda are great at.
Laptop1991
Member
Ive never played NMS so i dont make the comparison myself, more like the Outer worlds without the ship flying for me so far but a lot bigger which is a good thing as i really enjoyed TOW
skit_data
Member
I don’t either understand why some take the comparison as a negative.
It’s the good parts of no Mans Sky that Starfield does. The bad parts of No Mans Sky is probably nowhere to be seen (unless Bethesda has a similar autogenerate system) since they aren’t in the same genre really.
No Mans Sky is a survival game (that’s why I couldn’t play it more than 4-5 hours) and Starfield is a RPG (I really like the Fallout games and have spent tons of hours in them). It’s gonna be a better game but have good parts that I appreciated in No Mans Sky. That’s definitely not a bad thing.
It’s the good parts of no Mans Sky that Starfield does. The bad parts of No Mans Sky is probably nowhere to be seen (unless Bethesda has a similar autogenerate system) since they aren’t in the same genre really.
No Mans Sky is a survival game (that’s why I couldn’t play it more than 4-5 hours) and Starfield is a RPG (I really like the Fallout games and have spent tons of hours in them). It’s gonna be a better game but have good parts that I appreciated in No Mans Sky. That’s definitely not a bad thing.
Despiralman69
Member
Cant really say as ive never been into NMS but im getting the same vibes as i did when fallout 4 was revealed, its gunna be soulless and boring and no amount of mods can save it, just like FO4
PaintTinJr
Member
Why wouldn't it be serious? Hello Games are a tiny developer yet are probably 7years ahead in delivering a product on that similar shared vision, and have been improving their game (cross platform too) for 5years. All amazing games, or game engines start off with a nucleus of super talent that then needs scaled up to make games at the size of a Bethesda RPG.
My comment isn't a criticism of Bethesda, but a: look how amazing Hello games were/are! and I stand by my point, it is easier to transform the ground work of No Man's Sky into a highly polished Space RPG, at 60fps on Series/PlayStation by scaling up their team to starfield size, than to improve Starfield's 30fps to 60fps on consoles, while also adding in the essential immersive planet entry system that NMS has had since day 1.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
The fucking gall of Bethesda to rip off NMS so blatantly.
Jim Ryan other Clone
Banned
What no additional cost, are you idiot on purpose or what? You pay for the service that provides games. They don't give it free, like every services there is a monthly subscription fee that you have to deduct from your salary. Except if you leave with your parents and they pay it for you.
bitbydeath
Member
STARSBarry
Gold Member
Like these?
I read that post and thought to myself "People really haven't played No Man's Sky for a long long time"
What's funny is the recent Frontiers update brought this even closer to the starfield trailer in terms of outposts etc.
Hopefully Starfield is more... crafted and less procedural but only time will tell. I'm looking forward to seeing if player crafted planets in terms of mods show up to fill this void if they don't. Imagine the mod community coming together to hand craft an entire planet because Bethesda can't.
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sircaw
Banned
To be fair i think it would be silly of Microsoft not to have taken a good look at NMS.
The game has grown and moved on in leaps and bounds since its terrible launch.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
OP poll needs to be updated to include No Mans Sky looks better and that's my vote from what was shown.
Yup, you can tell who actually played NMS recently and who hasnt.
I do wonder if they will do procedural for the planets tho. Nightengale looks good and AFAIK its doing procedural.
Ppl upset at the comparisons....its really not that serious.
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Hobbygaming
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Flutta
Banned
I have mad respect for Sean tbh. Dude never took the money and ran like most devs would.
Braag
Member
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
The moment you walk off the ship and start scanning shit I immediately got No Mans Sky vibes.
Then we got the FPS spots and I got CoD vibes.
Then I saw those level 2 enemies taking so much damage to bring down and I got Assassin’s Creed vibes.
Then we got the FPS spots and I got CoD vibes.
Then I saw those level 2 enemies taking so much damage to bring down and I got Assassin’s Creed vibes.
StealthGoblin
Banned
Given the budget of the two games and the size of the teams involved, it’s actually quite alarming that NMS can even be mentioned in the same sentence. Starfield looks better technically (though not to my tastes) but realistically Starfield should look multitudes better.
FearlessBelgian
Member
This comparison is so dumb, NMS have near no story, no RPG elements... It's like comparing Doom and Call of Duty...
Belthazar
Member
I immediately thought about No Man's Sky when they mentioned that 1000 planets to explore bullshit. Hopefully they have a better procedural generation engine than NMS, otherwise it'll be like e dozen well thought out planets that are relevant to the plot and quests and 980 that are absolutely dreadful like 90% of the NMS planets.
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bitbydeath
Member
NMS has both of those too.
Belthazar
Member
I don't see how they would be able to make 1000 planets to explore without an autogenerate system, so they will have to use one for sure.
thegame983
Member
I wouldn't be surprised if their initial thought process was 'ok, lets turn No Mans Sky into a bethesda game.'
ToadMan
Member
Watching starfield I definitely got a feeling I’d already played it.
At first I thought of Mass Effect. Then the FPS shooting parts outside reminded of that Halo infinite reveal to the point I expected to see Craig.
Then at the base building part that Todd Howard was keen to hype up, I immediately thought of NMS doing it years ago. And with a lot more than a thousand planets.
The space combat looked like a closed off map too, but despite that, some bits reminded me of Elite without the open universe.
Which is all to say, this game seems to “borrow” a lot of stuff we’ve already seen…
I also noticed they’d borrowed plenty of Bethesda jank - awkward and stiff animations, poor performance, uncanny valley talking heads.
Is there a story? Is it yet more talking heads telling a tale that isn’t interesting? No one bothered to mention that stuff - you know, the part that would’ve made the game feel different to all the games it looks like.
At first I thought of Mass Effect. Then the FPS shooting parts outside reminded of that Halo infinite reveal to the point I expected to see Craig.
Then at the base building part that Todd Howard was keen to hype up, I immediately thought of NMS doing it years ago. And with a lot more than a thousand planets.
The space combat looked like a closed off map too, but despite that, some bits reminded me of Elite without the open universe.
Which is all to say, this game seems to “borrow” a lot of stuff we’ve already seen…
I also noticed they’d borrowed plenty of Bethesda jank - awkward and stiff animations, poor performance, uncanny valley talking heads.
Is there a story? Is it yet more talking heads telling a tale that isn’t interesting? No one bothered to mention that stuff - you know, the part that would’ve made the game feel different to all the games it looks like.
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Werewolfgrandma
Banned
Have you not read or seen space sci Fi since like 1930. NMS doesn't own these common concepts and was not the first to use any of them either. Dumb take from a lot of dumb people.
alucard0712_rus
Gold Member
This thread should be renamed to "Starfield fans are offended by comparison with No Man's Sky" 
saintjules
Member
Curious to know who the very first person who said this name.