Henry Panic
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Wait, what happened to the sales thread? Why was it taken down?
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PlayStation VR2 |OT| I heard it has a single cable. Is this true?
MasterCornholio
Member
The Takashi one?
Henry Panic
Banned
Is that the one that's blowing up in the news? I just saw the thread for it not long ago now the thread is gone.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I have a rift s and the screen door effect on that doesn't really bother me. I can't imagine the psvr 2 being worse right?
Any one with both able to confirm?
Any one with both able to confirm?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
It is much better than the Rift.
SilentUser
Member
PSVR2 is, imo, much, much better.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
That gave me a chuckle
I know the feeling here. LOL!
Henry Panic
Banned
So nobody's going to talk about that news VR2 sold less than 300k first month and the thread vanished?
Alrighty then.
Alrighty then.
Sleepwalker
Member
Will start saints and sinners after I'm done with RE4, can't wait to jump in.
ViolentP
Member
Sales numbers don't surprise me. Removing the thread however, does.
Minsc
Gold Member
Don't we have enough VR is doomed threads? Maybe the source isn't accurate? Maybe who gives a shit? Maybe we don't need arbitrary VR sales are too low threads every day? I'm sure there's some message constant random VR click bait articles turning in to threads then being deleted is.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Well, I can't see how there can be complaints then. I think the rift s looks decent so better than that is great!
Can't wait to see it myself.
Crayon
Member
Eddie got banned so hard that the threads he would have posted get closed.
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Romulus
Member
Henry Panic
Banned
This post doesn't make any sense since it's sales related to a major gaming product.
Let me know when you call out the Xbox is doomed threads, and the sales estimate threads also vanish.
IDC and a person from the company was directly quoted. When did IDC shipments become unconfirmed estimated?
I guess NPD is unconfirmed estimates too.
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Crayon
Member
Oh of course. Xbox xbox whaa whaa whaa. The thread could have stayed up or come down whatever. I can see waiting for a less sketchy source tho.
Romulus
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
2 different threads for that were made and were deleted. I don't agree with that personally, we get bloomberg threads on GAF all the time.
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SilentUser
Member
Hopefully you will have a great time! My brother has one Rift S and I always had fun playing with it. It is very comfortable.
Henry Panic
Banned
IDC is a sketchy source?
I asked if anyone knew what happened, not demanded or protested the threads being removed. Like if there was a message or anything before.
Are you looking at the numerous articles reporting the news? They all name a guy from IDC and quote his statement.
Bloomberg isn't the source though. They named the Vice President and quoted him:
"Vice President of analytics at IDC Francisco Jeronimo, said: “I suspect a price cut on the PSVR2 will be needed to avoid a complete disaster of their new product“."
But if two different threads were made and removed then I guess that's the rule for now.
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James Sawyer Ford
Member
Bloomberg has confirmed repeatedly to be an unreputable source
Sleepwalker
Member
Also we are not the mods in this thread, if you have an issue with a thread getting deleted you should take it up with them.
I'm here to see what people are playing and their impressions not to be a sony shareholder. Regardless, I had already posting my opinion on one of the deleted threads and don't see a point in reposting.
I'm here to see what people are playing and their impressions not to be a sony shareholder. Regardless, I had already posting my opinion on one of the deleted threads and don't see a point in reposting.
Minsc
Gold Member
This is the last I'll post on the off-topic issue, I'm sure this discussion isn't appreciated either. But when they perm'd Eddie, it was for click-bait sensationalist articles. Just how great a thread can you really get from a low-effort headline like that. Why does it have to be a "COMPLETE DISASTER"? Doesn't that seem kinda crazy to jump to that discussion right in the OP? Why can't you just have a neutral presention of the "facts" without all the hyper-sensationalism? Is Sony going to be bankrupt if they don't save the PS VR2 right now? Will there never be another game released for it? Is it the end for the PS VR2 and any chance of the PS VR3? Does the abysmal sales of the PS VR2 for the first 73 days have any way to be fixed? Can a system that's sold so badly in it's first 2.32 months have any chance of success? How to save Sony's biggest failure, the PS VR2 - after 3 months of sales it has only sold a pathetic 500,000 units?
Maybe we can have each of those threads one day after the next after the next after the next.
Romulus
Member
But they never confirmed anything. It's an estimate.
And estimates can be way off:
https://macdailynews.com/2018/11/26...-wrong-in-estimating-apples-q4-mac-shipments/
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Henry Panic
Banned
Bloomberg isn't the source, I didn't even get the quote I posted from them just a random site quoting IDC, one of many reporting the same news.
2018 and with data that's not about shipment numbers, but based on projections.
These are not based on projections.
Again, are we going to remove NPD threads? Other analytic companies?
Did a site search and even Superdata has been used here which is actually unreliable.
Eddie has got nothing to do with this. This is also a thread for VR2 and this is news for VR2.
The original thread that was removed didn't even say complete disaster, you're making that up.
The original thread was:
Sony PSVR2 Headset Off to Slow Start as Metaverse Push Sputters
Even the comments in the thread were unusually civil.
The rest of your numbers I don't know where you're getting from. Every game media is reporting on it and aren't coming out saying it's not from the IDC. Which they would if it wasn't, including the ones that don't even mention Bloomberg.
Anyway if that can't be discussed now that's fine, but I was just curious why the threads were removed but if there's no answer then I guess that's that.
Moving on.
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phaedrus
Member
I had an earlier post on this:
Got them from Aliexpress.
I also bought some premade magnetic cables that have indicator lights and slightly stronger magnets than the add-on adapters:
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Romulus
Member
I think you need to reread the article. Apple wasn't showing off their real numbers to prove "projections" wrong. The link literally says "IDC wrong for Mac SHIPMENTS."
Then why do you use them?
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/quest-2-speaks-for-the-failures-of-vr.1654417/post-267743880
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Henry Panic
Banned
I didn't say Apple, IDC was basing their estimates from projections, not actual sales, in 2018.
This vr news was them looking at shipments and coming up with a number from collected data just like NPD.
Because those numbers matched what NPD got in q2-19. That's why ai didn't use them for the others.
It also proves my point that if SD can be on here, then IDC which is as credible as NPD should also.
But anyway the staff don't want the threads so that's how it is.
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Satansblade
Banned
If that's the case, you should try some tabletop Skirmish games. I enjoyed Demeo, but found it a bit to simple and limited to really keep me interested for a second playthrough. If you have any tabletop gaming stores, try out something like 40k Boarding Patrols, Necromunda, Battletech, Star Wars: Legion or the like. Sounds like it would be your kind of thing if you enjoyed Demeo that much.Yes, yes, yes! Demeo is fantastic, my favorite PSVR2 game so far and as I said before, it might ending up as my overall GOTY. I simply love everything about it
That's not to say I didn't greatly enjoy it, I was just very aware of it's deficiencies compared to other actual tabletop miniature games.
Warning though, it's an all consuming hobby, especially once you move on to Army Battle games.
Spank_Magnet
The Male Lewinsky
Fallout : Wasteland Warfare is pretty damned great too.
Satansblade
Banned
absolutely. I could have probably named a dozen more truly great games.
Which, theres no reason a lot of them shouldn't be recreated in VR. I'd love to play some tabletop battletech against my friends across the country.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
It's gamers and the internet. People will always have complaints.
SilentUser
Member
At this point, I'm not worrying much about sales for a few reasons: 1. Sony, way before release, said it expected to be a slow burner (don't ask me for source, please lol it is just something I remember reading somewhere); 2. The numbers are estimation and it could be off; 3. It is expensive and it requeres a PS5 in a troubling economy; and 4. It was just released, plenty of time to sell more. Of course I would love to see it selling millions already, but it is fine for now. Just my two cents about it.
existensmaximum
Member
I can't believe how god Resident Evil Village is. This is the first RE game I've ever played and it's just so incredibly innersive. It's gonna be real tough going back to flat games after this, absolutely mind blowing!
John Marston
GAF's very own treasure goblin
How can someone say that PSVR2 has "bombed" in just a meager 2 months since its release?
Shouldn't we wait at least a year to get a realistic figure?
Dunno man, just sayin'.
Shouldn't we wait at least a year to get a realistic figure?
Dunno man, just sayin'.
existensmaximum
Member
Especially with the economy down the drain and raging inflation.
Minsc
Gold Member
I finally picked up the full version of Puzzling Places the other day, looking forward to being able to use the 400 piece and 800 / 1,000 piece modes, and all the different areas/puzzles too. There's some interesting looking DLC as well I've never seen get much discussion, but I guess the base game probably has a good 40+ hours of content so that'll keep me busy for like a year or something, I plan on completing each level in the various increments up to 200 then probably just doubling, 400 and 800/1000 on the ones that support it. The game really fills my calm Picross-type gaming needs, and I think it's all the small touches that really make me enjoy it, the various sounds and super-detailed models.
It is! How far did you get? It is such a great experience, I feel like anyone who hasn't given it a good 4+ hours and noped out early really should do everything they can to get over their fears! It's completely worth it.
It is! How far did you get? It is such a great experience, I feel like anyone who hasn't given it a good 4+ hours and noped out early really should do everything they can to get over their fears! It's completely worth it.
John Marston
GAF's very own treasure goblin
PAYDAY FRIDAY! Downloading Saints and Sinners Deluxe whatchamacallit Chapter 1 & 2
Markio128
Member
Same! I’ve just treated myself to Tetris Connected and DemeoPAYDAY FRIDAY! Downloading Saints and Sinners Deluxe whatchamacallit Chapter 1 & 2
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
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aclar00
Member
My favorite so far. Just need more games like it.
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Satansblade
Banned
I think my favourite game so Far is Saints and Sinners Retribution. Exploring that world is far more interesting to me so far than RE8 was (BUT, I still absolutely loved RE8)
This morning I realized I had a ton of coins from that rewards program, so I sold them and got The Last Worker and upgraded the first Saints and Sinners to play once im done with these.
This morning I realized I had a ton of coins from that rewards program, so I sold them and got The Last Worker and upgraded the first Saints and Sinners to play once im done with these.
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SilentUser
Member
Yeah, the game is simply outstanding! The flat to VR conversion is pretty good, which makes me excited for future hybrid games.
Puzzling Places is on my list, I adore playing the demo.
Crayon
Member
They have to contend with an absolute number of addressable player base no matter what the circumstances so there is that.
But really we need to see what the holiday is like. Do they actually get the thing on shelves, are they sitting on big announcements, do they bother to announce any milestones, and how does the quest 3 do. It's definitely premature to judge.
existensmaximum
Member
I've played a couple of hours or so, right now I'm
inside the castle, I just killed the first of the daughters
At first the game was really scary and I felt uneasy the whole time but now I've gotten used to it and it's just very enjoyable, even if it gives me the chills from time to time!
aclar00
Member
Up until the first daughter was like that for me too. Once Lady D started following me after taking out the first daughter it let up a lot, especially when she followed me to the save room. I kept going in and out of the room and confronting her...and essentially dying on purpose after using all my ammo.