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[DeadOblivion78]

Oh fuck off mate. You've been throwing money left and right to secure 3rd party exclusives, but now "your" gamers are being treated unfairly? Come on now.

Imagine believing a false equivalence buying a publisher to 3rd party timed exclusives

 

[Sosokrates]

I wonder how many years Sony has guaranteed destiny on Xbox

After almost 20 years of Call of Duty on PlayStation, their proposal was inadequate on many levels and failed to take account of the impact on our gamers

Yeah no shit Jimbo, you think YOU be the one to call the shots frankly Jimbo and playsation should be happy that they are getting COD at all.

Microsoft could be a lot more aggressive if they wanted, they could literally moneyhat everything if they wanted.


Lol at Phil too pretending to be friend of PlayStation, at some point you can't be on the fence. Sony's and Microsoft goals just clash to much for it not to be all out war

 

[Salty Popsicle]

not in their initial statements and the several years statement came out afterwards.

They lied until they were exposed, why are you defending a mega corp its weird.

Why do we care if two mega corps are having business disagreements? Oh that's right, because that's what forums like this were made for. Acting like we have no preference over who "wins" or "loses" is just disingenuous.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Jimbo, just buy an XBox.

 

[StealthGoblin]

Once again, Phil Spencer caught speaking out both sides of his mouth. His rhetoric sounds very consumer friendly, but he says different things behind closed doors.
Microsoft are taking games away from gamers. To date. Sony have not done that. Those who cheer on the big Microsoft acquisitions are blind fanboys who don’t really care about gaming as a whole.
If Sony start doing that shit too, they’ll get the same crap from me as wellZ

 

[adamsapple]

Imagine believing a false equivalence buying a publisher to 3rd party timed exclusives

Imagine thinking a first party studio would owe anything beyond any agreements.

Activision are ready to become MS first party, offering any years beyond agreement is generous in itself already.

 

[Salty Popsicle]

Will Xbox be able to produce the same quality CoD without the PS gamer market and 100% reliance on GamePass?

How does losing PS playerbase change the quality of talent at studios like Infinity Ward or Treyarch? That makes no sense.

 

[FalsettoVibe]

Wonder if this will start to make Sony more aggressive......

 

[00Magnum Gaming]

Shots fired

U know Lil Reese got shot multiple times, ironic. Jim has held exclusives from Xbox all last gen Spiderman, FF, and SFV and now hes crying. MS better call him out.

 

[Jigga117]

He said all that with a straight face?

 

[GametimeUK]

I really want Xbox to get Activision just for the sake of these console wars if I'm being completely honest. It's top class entertainment.

 

[Rykan]

Imagine believing a false equivalence buying a publisher to 3rd party timed exclusives

It's different how, exactly?

 

[Negotiator101]

Phil is a phony and blatantly lies about almost everything he says.

All he cares about are "services" and "value".

Yet all of Microsofts studios are in development hell under his watch, and games announced 3-4 years ago have zero gameplay footage to show for.

He didn't lie 3 years can mean several, this is sour grapes from Ryan because Phil's not bending over for him seriously this Jim Ryan is delusional Microsoft do business and they do it well, they are laying out crazy money and he thinks they won't use it as a weapon against its competitors?

 

[Jimmyisback]

I guess anyone who thought COD was going to be available on PS consoles forever should start eating crow now. You'll have until the end of the decade at best, but the clocks ticking and it waits for no one. Will Sony be able to produce a COD killer before then?

They got Bungie who is making games for Xbox. If Sony says anything to conflict with that, then they probably have stipulations that they can cancel their buyout and once again be independent.

 

[DeadOblivion78]

U know the guy in the gif got shot multiple times. Ironic. Jim has held exclusives from Xbox all last gen Spiderman, FF, and SFV and now hes crying. MS better call him out.

Marvel went to Xbox first and they turned it down so Phil holds the L on Spider-Man.

 

[Josemayuste]

I'll only say about this.. Do you guys remember when Microsoft was pushing really hard for crossplay?.. yeah..this thing about making CoD exclusive to Xbox ecosystem now might go against those previous statements.

 

[Salty Popsicle]

Imagine thinking a first party studio would owe anything beyond any agreements.

Activision are ready to become MS first party, offering any years beyond agreement is generous in itself already.

I never understood the opposing arguments. If I buy a home that had tenants living in it, I am entitled to evict them or keep them, but that is my choice. Why should Microsoft be forced to continue give concessions to Sony after purchasing Activision?

 

[Hendrick's]

So no additional years then I guess. Hit 'em back Phil!

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

I will be shocked if Acti-Bliz deal is not approved with some explicit condition for Call of Duty to remain multiplatform forever.

 

[DeadOblivion78]

It's different how, exactly?

One is permanent and the other isn’t.

 

[Metnut]

If Phil Spencer is willing to lie about this, I wonder if he’s willing to lie about the long-term plan for Gamepass subscription costs.

 

[Sosokrates]

Wonder if this will start to make Sony more aggressive......

They already are.

 

[Connxtion]

Confused here, that’s 5 years COD will be on PS5+ by that time it could be dead

They also still get there exclusive deal for the next 2 years.

I guess it’s the exclusive stuff not being allowed past 2024? That’s the issue here.

 

[bender]

Time for Jim to buy Take Two.

Microsoft should just support COD on PS5 and use exclusivity as a key selling point for the next generation.

 

[Punished Miku]

Seems like charity from Microsoft and Jimbo seems to think he's entitled to it.

There's a lot of that anytime MS makes a move on anything.

 

[Iced Arcade]

the PS/XB COD drama is a future documentary and it starts when Sony swooped in and nabbed the marketing deal from under xbox.

 

[StealthGoblin]

Imagine thinking a first party studio would owe anything beyond any agreements.

Activision are ready to become MS first party, offering any years beyond agreement is generous in itself already.

This is exactly why anti-competition laws are in place. With this information coming to light, the U.K. are increasingly unlikely to approve the deal.

 

[tmlDan]

Why do we care if two mega corps are having business disagreements? Oh that's right, because that's what forums like this were made for. Acting like we have no preference over who "wins" or "loses" is just disingenuous.

Huh? are you reading? There's a difference between praising scummy mega corps rather than justifying it cause you love Daddy Phil.

Same goes for the LoU remake price, the PS increased prices, lack of 1440p support - diff is at least Sony is being upfront about them.

 

[remember_spinal]

jimbo putting his dick on the table

 

[00Magnum Gaming]

we say this, but how do you know that? how do you know it wasn't Squares decision?

There have been many cases where they just choose to put it only on PS, also games like SF5 were partly funded by PS - you can thank them for some things even existing.

lol ok buddy SF4 has like 5 editions but you think the 5th game wouldnt exist without Sonys help ok

 

[Mr.ODST]

Will Xbox be able to produce the same quality CoD without the PS gamer market and 100% reliance on GamePass?

Think you underestimate how popular COD is to non-GAF lol

All I ever deal with in terms of general public is FIFA and COD players

 

[Hendrick's]

Time for Phil to stop playing word games and state exactly what he means.

He said exactly that. Several more years = three years.

 

[Sub_Level]

The Call of Duty must flow.

 

[Unrivaledx88]

Phil Spencer is two faced

 

[Neko Mimi Mode]

Why should Microsoft publish their first party IPs on a rival format at all?

It definitely isn't the same as Sony paying SE to keep Final Fantasy exclusive, because that's a third party multiplatform franchise. The norm is for third party games to be multiplatform and first party games not to be.

 

[Salty Popsicle]

So no additional years then I guess. Hit 'em back Phil!

Yeah, If I was Microsoft and heard that Jimbo was not so enthusiastic about being given a 3 years grace period, I'd return with a new deal stipulating no grace period and a big fuck you to Sony.

 

[Negotiator101]

That's exactly what the OP says. Three years after the current agreement ends. So if the current agreement is valid for another 2 years, then another 3 years on top of that for a total of 5 years.

With content and feature parity as well, it's a great deal but Ryan wants more

 

[Represent.]

U know the guy in the gif got shot multiple times. Ironic. Jim has held exclusives from Xbox all last gen Spiderman, FF, and SFV and now hes crying. MS better call him out.

Lil Reese is the Grim reaper. I think he's immortal or something

 

[Kagey K]

It's what Kagey and Salty do, especially today. They'll post several attempts to rile people up with some stupid takes and when no-one responds, they'll post something else. You can already see it happening.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

Jim Ryan finally grew some balls and decided that it was time to not let Microsoft create the entire narrative.

Took some time but here we are.

He's doing this for obvious reasons related to the regulators I mean.

 

[ChiefDada]

How does losing PS playerbase change the quality of talent at studios like Infinity Ward or Treyarch? That makes no sense.

Because cutting off their largest consumer base dramatically limits the budget for the next franchise installment. It's such a simple calculus I can't believe you even asked that question.

 

[MoreJRPG]

This is from the guy who paid Capcom extra money to keep RE7 off of Gamepass, still won’t let FF7 Remake on Xbox and recorded record profits last quarter and jacked the price up on the console, all while remaking games for a third time and charging an extra $10

Jimbo is a failure and the PlayStation brand is floundering.

 

[Rykan]

One is permanent and the other isn’t.

Fair, but not all of their deals are timed exclusives.

 

[adamsapple]

This is exactly why anti-competition laws are in place. With this information coming to light, the U.K. are increasingly unlikely to approve the deal.

Anti competition laws are in place to stop one consoles first party to keep creating games on a rival platform for 3~5~8 more years ?

With content and feature parity as well, it's a great deal but Ryan wants more

He doesn't just want it more, he wants it more on so many levels.

 

[Ezquimacore]

What's funny as fuck is that PlayStation and Jim would never give MS or Nintendo that courtesy of 3 years. They would announce an exclusive cod game without owning the company. Shittiest gaming company for real.

 

[MCplayer]

a long as this brings exclusives keep on discussing and cut relations Sony and Microsoft

 

[Iced Arcade]

what Jim is big mad over is "Last week, Xbox revealed that it had "provided a signed agreement to Sony to guarantee Call of Duty on PlayStation, with feature and content parity, for at least several more years" beyond Sony's existing contract with Activision. Xbox said this offer "goes well beyond typical gaming industry agreements."

 

[BigbyTheSheriff]

Ok, Jim, here's the deal - you give Final Fantasy to Xbox, Call of Duty is yours.

 

[Mr.ODST]

Microsoft are taking games away from gamers. To date. Sony have not done that.

FF7 Remake and others hmm .....

 

[ManaByte]

After almost 20 years of Call of Duty on PlayStation, their proposal was inadequate on many levels and failed to take account of the impact on our gamers

Says the guy who is preventing mainline Final Fantasy games from going to Xbox.