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Politico: Trump's National Security Team Blindsided by His NATO Speech
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Nazgul_Hunter
Member
They all should resign. History has its eyes on them. Why is everyone enabling this man child?
RPGCrazied
Member
Why is McMaster still on this sinking ship???
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
Not surprised
jellies_two
Member
I have a hard time believing he did it himself.
It sounds more like a Bannon thing.
Partly because It fits with his view and partly because he was surely itching to show he is still the inner circle.
It sounds more like a Bannon thing.
Partly because It fits with his view and partly because he was surely itching to show he is still the inner circle.
BrassDragon
Member
Doesn't matter how it came about or who advised what or said what informally: Trump's rise is a signal that the US is an unreliable ally and unwilling to keep authoritarians in check.
Merkel called it: we need our own EU defensive posture that makes US might optional rather than a bedrock.
Merkel called it: we need our own EU defensive posture that makes US might optional rather than a bedrock.
EdibleKnife
Member
Money, career advancement and/or being up for his backward policies and just frustrated blatant stupidity. Trump's "I could kill someone and still be supported" statement wasn't just for supporters but his fellow politicians and administrative staff as well.
He is under direct orders to serve the President. He literally cannot leave, unless he resigns from the military, ending his career/pension.
Advocatus Diaboli
Member
He has to be. He's active duty army; this is his post. (Admittedly, I'm sure he could retire, but even that had to be approved.)
To quit he has to quit the military.
m_shortpants
Member
COMPLICIT
astroturfing
Member
America has a fucking rogue president.
a low IQ woman harrassing reality TV star rogue president.
get rid of him asap.
a low IQ woman harrassing reality TV star rogue president.
get rid of him asap.
Lord Fagan
Junior Member
For real.
The rumors about Bannon leaving are bullshit. That cancerous fuck is sticking around as long as the burnt caramel traitor.
Nazgul_Hunter
Member
If you think that:
Trump really does believe 3m people voted illegally
Trump believes 'the silent majority' agrees with him and voted him in...
thats the reason why they have influence. That's how he won 2016 and how he thinks he'll get reelected.
He's obviously very wrong on all accounts; but it explains so much. Actually, assuming Trump knowingly lies, but those lies become truths in his mind is an easy shortcut to understanding his shitty mind.
It's Kushner who is on the outs, who do you think leaked that dirt on Kush to the press?
I do think he believes it because he is such an egomaniacal narcissist that his mind needs it to be true. He creates his own reality. He lies to himself as much as he does to everyone else.
It's not an accident that all the leaks center on Kushner.
autolesbona
Neo Member
I'm surpassed I haven't seen this analogy on neogaf, but isn't trump basically Cartman at this point?
RESPECT MY AUTHORITAY
RESPECT MY AUTHORITAY
The comparison to Cartman is accurate on every single level.
He is a fat, sociopathic, egomaniacal, narcissistic, racist, mysogynistic, ignorant, spiteful, greedy, uncouth, trashy, dangerous, child cartoon character.
The moment that Trump utters the complaint that people are not respecting him and the office of President, I hope every single held over Obama era official walks to him and does a spit take right into that weeping pus sack's face.
He will still receive his pension if he chooses to resign. It's pretty much solely based on how long you've been in, and McMaster has been in over 30 years. He's still there because he chooses to be.
He should. He is doing more harm than good to them. He can retire anytime he wants.
acheron_xl
Member
It was a remarkably cynically canny hire. Can't have your supplicant, Flynn? Hire a guy who has to obey.
Hopefully it's because he realizes whoever his replacement is will be far, far worse.
Nazgul_Hunter
Member
Nah.
We got lucky that the recipient of their help is such a transparent idiot and buffoon. Trump's stupidity will expose the depths of the Russian conspiracy and help us be better prepared for next time.
If they'd picked a competent person, they'd have gotten away with it... Now, there's gonna be a huge backlash against Trump, Republicans and Russia. You can already feel Europe is done taking Trump's shit and Putin's shit.
Things are going to get very ugly if he looses the reelection in 2020, because he is not going to accept that result and do everything in his power to stay there.
Lord Frieza
Member
Yeah, McMaster is in a tight spot. If he resigns he doesn't just lose his post. Tillerson is just a piece of shit. He seems to have a lot of people fooled.
Lord Frieza
Member
There's nothing he could do to stay in power if he loses. If he doesn't step down, he'll be removed
KernelPanic
Member
Of course it's Bannon.
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
Russia.
Russia's main export by a large factor is oil to Europe.
Doesn't mean Putin isn't happy to see Trump causing divide between EU, US and NATO. US taking step back and withdrawing more into itself is cause for party in Kremlin as it weaken EU and NATO against Russia.
Fair enough.
Trump seems to want an ally out of Russia and doesn't want to keep making demands to EU that they could reject. He's probably hoping it's still in effect regardless. NSC wants something more concrete I guess.
I dunno,
Because Trump is such a buffoon, there is a constant indecision as to whether his actions are malicious or idiotic.
Your allies are leaving you, and worse yet they don't currently trust you.
Germany and mainland Europe is armying up, so they are less reliant on your military efforts.
your diplomatic engine has been gutted and is being blindsided by people like Bannon.
You are removing yourself as the preeminent culture in the world
You are reducing the imperative to produce scientists and engineers by reducing your investment in education and social programs that allow the best and the brightest to advance if they dont come from a wealthy background.
Your best people are being publicly asked to move to other continents and they are by and large considering it.
You are decreasing the capability for the middle classes to have wealth and are moving to some sort of serfdom.
Your police force is starting to look like a military state, we have hundreds of videos of the cops killing civilians and not even remotely being forced to pay for their crimes.
I dunno man, this looks like it will take years to sort out and possibly decades before America moves back into that role within the world stage and even then, because of the failings within your democratic system a buffoon like trump has outlined in such a public and embarrassing way you would need to demonstrate that any amendments to the system are:
a) Non partisan
b) Binding
c) Totally in the best interests of the country and its peoples
Right now, as a Brit I am looking at America and I don't see it as the leader of the free world which makes Brexit all the more galling.
I hope it will be like that. but he can start beating drums of Electoral fraud and use that office he created to try and disrupt the whole proccess.
He wont let it go without creating a big headache for everyone.
He really isn't in a tight spot at all.
He can resign from the military and given his high profile will probably easily make high 6 figures on top of his pension.
At worst, he is trapped there for about a year, if his detailing process works similarly to most people in the military. But I expect that position has some special caveats attached since it is such a high level and unique.
Dahellisdat
Member
Did he actually delete it or did he just go off script and fuck up and forget to say it?
