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[22•22]

That's what happens when you have a money hungry prick like Jim Ryan at the top..... live service / GAAS / MTX become a bigger focus... always online.

I love the game, I paid 100 euro for the 25th anniversary edition but the always online and moves like this really show how negative Jims time is for PlayStation in terms of harming their relationship with longterm customers.

Why say Jim as if you know him personally lol

 

[Aguero9320]

They’ll be offering car payments next… Just $2 per month for 60 months and this BMW is yours. 6% interest.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I'm going slow and generally having enough to get a car that meets requirements for next book plus upgrades, so I don't really have any reason to complain about the grind yet. It has actually felt pretty rewarding to me. But those special invites are pretty awful ways to induce people to spend money in my opinion. The fairly short window to purchase a special invite (that I have gotten) pretty much requires you to spend money or take a day off from work / life. Not the end of the world, and it does not take away any enjoyment from the game. But still not cool.

I ignore them, personally.

 

[skybaby]

Maybe if you have a deadline of a couple of weeks. Most of us will play this till GT8 comes out. Not that weird, is it?

Sure pal. That invite for the car you want will come. Keep spinning that roulette, today is your day. The house always lose, isn't that how the saying goes

 

[DeepEnigma]

They’ll be offering car payments next… Just $2 per month for 60 months and this BMW is yours. 6% interest.

Now that's realism.

 

[22•22]

Sure pal. That invite for the car you want will come. Keep spinning that roulette, today is your day. The house always lose, isn't that how the saying goes

Hey man, I'm with you; this current system sucks. I also wish it was different. If anything we should be discussing a better albeit still balanced way between obtaining and collecting through gameplay

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

Actually after giving this some more thought...i paid 100€ for this game (i wasn't even considering this). Watching this F2P behavior on a full priced game is honestly a bit disgusting...hopefully they will change it.

Sony is so weird for this. In one hand they literally give free DLC for Returnal. But then we see stuff like this happening?

Could this be Polyphony doing?

 

[adamsapple]

Can you blame them ? Companies like EA, Ubisoft frequently report making Billion(s) via MTX shit.

It's crap but it's profitable.

 

[Punished Miku]

Can you blame them ?

Sure!

 

[adamsapple]

Sure!

Touche.

 

[DJ12]

I have invites for cars I can afford. Who gives a shit. The FOMO is not there at all for some designers dream car that all seem to look the same.

But do continue with your mock outrage if that's what Turn10 are paying you for.

 

[SlimySnake]

Pretty disgusting stuff, but not surprising.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

Wait...i just heard this newest update has a bug and since the game is always online people can't save progression. Is that true?

So not only did we paid full price for this always online experience but they are fucking up in every possible way...only to make me pay even more for all this? lmao!

 

[Novacain]

It feels like one gets sold a scam in some cases lately, thinking you're buying a full premium experience but in a matter of weeks find it completely rebalanced and redesigned with F2P tropes.

It's disappointing that they chose to pull a trojan horse and just reaffirms for me exactly why I never preorder and why I wait for heavily discounted "complete" editions.

 

[Emet_bp]

So instead of 1.7 million credits in an hour, you can grind 1.3-1.4 million.

No. It's 0,8 million instead of 1,7 million in an hour. So it's up to 25 hours of repeating the same race to buy ONE car.

 

[NickFire]

It feels like one gets sold a scam in some cases lately, thinking you're buying a full premium experience but in a matter of weeks find it completely rebalanced and redesigned with F2P tropes.

It's disappointing that they chose to pull a trojan horse and just reaffirms for me exactly why I never preorder and why I wait for heavily discounted "complete" editions.

If you bought it expecting to have every car unlocked in a couple weeks without spending money, then sure I guess I understand why you think this is not a premium experience. But who really expected that?

 

[DeepEnigma]

No. It's 0,8 million instead of 1,7 million in an hour. So it's up to 25 hours of repeating the same race to buy ONE car.

What do you mean, ONE car? Not every car is 20 million.

Very, very few are, and with the Hagerty pricing, not one has popped up with that. In fact, I was able to score some nice Legend cars for less than 200K due to the real time pricing being on a decline with them.

 

[skybaby]

No. It's 0,8 million instead of 1,7 million in an hour. So it's up to 25 hours of repeating the same race to buy ONE car.

Already called out his math and got no reply. Business as usual for these people

 

[Umbasaborne]

Cry me a river


Can you get this cars in forza by playing the game?

Lmfao. Who's defending microtransactions now?

Im not opposed to mtx, but as long as they are reasonable. A 20 dollar single car is unreasonable, a ten dollar car pack with multiple cars is easier to swallow

 

[iHaunter]

I wonder if ethomaz still thinks the MTX implementation is great in this game…

I have Anniversary of this game, I think it's disgusting. Not playing til it stops. MTX in any game just doesn't simply work.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Already called out his math and got no reply. Business as usual for these people

I was looking at the wrong race on the list, sue me. So $800K in an hour or so.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

I have Anniversary of this game, I think it's disgusting. Not playing til it stops. MTX in any game just doesn't simply work.

Exactly.If i pay a premium price for a videogame i demand that the same game can be played entirely without me spending another euro.

If this is how Sony treats fully priced games how will they treat actuall F2P games? lmao

 

[StateofMajora]

Sony is so weird for this. In one hand they literally give free DLC for Returnal. But then we see stuff like this happening?

Could this be Polyphony doing?

For some reason, publishers think it’s more acceptable to push always online and bad practices for racing games.

Always online in particular is not un common for racers and it sucks, really sucks because it’s one of my favorite genres.

So basically i’ve been kept from buying gt7 because i’m not dealing with this scummy shit as much as I was looking forward to gt7.

 

[NickFire]

Exactly.If i pay a premium price for a videogame i demand that the same game can be played entirely without me spending another euro.

If this is how Sony treats fully priced games how will they treat actuall F2P games? lmao

Hold on, you're talking euros. Are you telling me you never play FIFA? I thought everyone who deals in euros was into FIFA.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

My understanding is that they don't want people to do the same race over and over because it is the one that gives more credit. They are trying to level them. That said, they should have also increased other events' rewards as well, not just nerf those that rewarded the best. I love the game and I am not that worried about not being able to buy the more expensive cars right away, but I can understand people that see that "limited availability" tag, or the deadline on the invitations, and get anxious.

What games can do is some kind of Diablo system. Level up too good and the event is worth less. With a racing game, it can be adjusted based on career stats and/or how often someone has played that event.

 

[Banjo64]

They’ll be offering car payments next… Just $2 per month for 60 months and this BMW is yours. 6% interest.

Lol. Miss a payment and they send a virtual bailiff round to tow the car.

 

[GHG]

Actually after giving this some more thought...i paid 100€ for this game (i wasn't even considering this). Watching this F2P behavior on a full priced game is honestly a bit disgusting...hopefully they will change it.

Sony is so weird for this. In one hand they literally give free DLC for Returnal. But then we see stuff like this happening?

Could this be Polyphony doing?

They justify it with the promise of all future car and track updates/additions being free.

Personally of rather pay for DLC that I want than have these scummy F2P economy tactics make their way in to a full priced game, but that's just me.

 

[adamsapple]

Exactly.If i pay a premium price for a videogame i demand that the same game can be played entirely without me spending another euro.

If this is how Sony treats fully priced games how will they treat actuall F2P games? lmao

That will be Bungie's problem to figure out, I reckon.

 

[SLB1904]

Personally of rather pay for DLC that I want than have these scummy F2P

No you don't. If you want to get everything from iracing you are paying over 3k + monthly fee.

 

[SLB1904]

Im not opposed to mtx, but as long as they are reasonable. A 20 dollar single car is unreasonable, a ten dollar car pack with multiple cars is easier to swallow

Microsactions are shit no matter the price. It splits the user base and and a fucking digital car shouldn't cost this absurd amount of money. I bought acc on PC with all dlcs and cost me around £25 because I bought from cd keys. The same game I bought on ps4 deals in December and go find out how much the dlc packs costs
And we are talking about 6 cars and a few tracks. Fuck that

 

[ReBurn]

So console players will experience what it's like to be a mobile gamer huh.

I never expected I will say this statement in my life, but here we are.

This is just the beginning. Once people are OK with mtx, these companies will abuse it, and make the $100 packs normal.

People have been ok with MTX for over a decade. This scheme is nothing new.

 

[GHG]

No you don't. If you want to get everything from iracing you are paying over 3k + monthly fee.

Yes, I play iracing and it's something I support because:

• The online race system and organisation is unrivaled
• You don't need to buy all the cars in one go
• You don't need to buy all the tracks in one go

Typically I will look at the schedule for the season and pick a maximum of 2 series that I want to run. If I don't have the car I want to drive I'll buy it and the same with the tracks. Its better to get to know a car and specialise in driving a single car well than it is to buy and drive every car poorly.

But that's just iracing's structure, it's a completely different kettle of fish to GT and they would never get away with charging the prices for cars and tracks that iracing do because they don't have the detail or the infrastructure to justify it.

 

[Novacain]

If you bought it expecting to have every car unlocked in a couple weeks without spending money, then sure I guess I understand why you think this is not a premium experience. But who really expected that?

Nope, my anticipation was that it was going to be much closer to previous GT entries; which it was a few weeks ago right at launch.

 

[DeepEnigma]

People have been ok with MTX for over a decade. This scheme is nothing new.

I was about to say, people are coming up with new ways to word their warring.

 

[22•22]

Another whine fest of a thread.

We all know MTX, especially in this specific case, is a slippery slope and criticism is very valid

It's another thing to whine about how it takes ingame time/effort to be able to afford very very *special cars.

DeepEnigma yeah just another pretext to war over. It's exhausting really. Every other thread serves as a fucking pretext. If not they'll sure as hell make it so..

 

[DeepEnigma]

Nope, my anticipation was that it was going to be much closer to previous GT entries; which it was a few weeks ago right at launch.

It's seemingly more in line with previous entries now. From what I read it was better than GT6's grind at launch.

 

[GenericUser]

When I finished the campaign (cafe mode) I saw this shit coming from a mile away. Sold this turd immediately. Fuck this. I won't support this shit.

 

[Modrot]

Pretty glad GT has been dead to me for years. Zero chance of being disappointed.

 

[Panajev2001a]

Another whine fest of a thread.

We all know MTX, especially in this specific case, is a slippery slope and criticism is very valid

It's another thing to whine about how it takes ingame time/effort to be able to afford very very *special cars.

DeepEnigma yeah just another pretext to war over. It's exhausting really. Every other thread serves as a fucking pretext. If not they'll sure as hell make it so..

Yup… if there is not enough concern, concerns can be manufactured.

 

[sn0man]

Nope, my anticipation was that it was going to be much closer to previous GT entries; which it was a few weeks ago right at launch.

Just avoid the patch. If you already have the game setup just don’t download any new patches so they don’t nerf the economy.

 

[SLB1904]

Yes, I play iracing and it's something I support because:

• The online race system and organisation is unrivaled
• You don't need to buy all the cars in one go
• You don't need to buy all the tracks in one go

Typically I will look at the schedule for the season and pick a maximum of 2 series that I want to run. If I don't have the car I want to drive I'll buy it and the same with the tracks.

The irony in this post is through the roof

 

[DeepEnigma]

Just avoid the patch. If you already have the game setup just don’t download any new patches so they don’t nerf the economy.

About that...

 

[ethomaz]

This would only be an issue, for me at least, if Mtx were required to complete/enjoy the game. This is not the case. I’ve barely had to spend any credits on cars because they are given to you with each menu completed. The most credits I have spent are on upgrades.

When MTX opens in the game?
I finished the S license yesterday night but I could not see even hint about MTX.

 

[22•22]

Yup… if there is not enough concern, concerns can be manufactured.

The worst part is that they're not even aware of this dualistic behaviour. I'm almost thinking it's some byproduct or this zeitgeist. It's even worse when you know most of these warriors are 30+ years of age. It's depressing really.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Double the grind just means double the fun

 

[SLB1904]

The worst part is that they're not even aware of this dualistic behaviour. I'm almost thinking it's some byproduct or this zeitgeist. It's even worse when you know most of these warriors are 30+ years of age. It's depressing really.

I really blows my mind. They are not OK with prices of the gt because is too expensive but if was cheap it would be fine. My brain is fuming right now.

 

[skybaby]

Another whine fest of a thread.

We all know MTX, especially in this specific case, is a slippery slope and criticism is very valid

It's another thing to whine about how it takes ingame time/effort to be able to afford very very *special cars.

DeepEnigma yeah just another pretext to war over. It's exhausting really. Every other thread serves as a fucking pretext. If not they'll sure as hell make it so..

They just LOWERED the payout and you still think it's all fine and manufactured rage.

I give up.

 

[ethomaz]

Yes, I play iracing and it's something I support because:

• The online race system and organisation is unrivaled
• You don't need to buy all the cars in one go
• You don't need to buy all the tracks in one go

Typically I will look at the schedule for the season and pick a maximum of 2 series that I want to run. If I don't have the car I want to drive I'll buy it and the same with the tracks. Its better to get to know a car and specialise in driving a single car well than it is to buy and drive every car poorly.

But that's just iracing's structure, it's a completely different kettle of fish to GT and they would never get away with charging the prices for cars and tracks that iracing do because they don't have the detail or the infrastructure to justify it.

I play GT7/GTS and it's something I support because:

• The online race system and organisation is unrivaled
• You don't need to buy all the cars in one go
• You don't need to buy all the tracks in one go

I'm confused.
The 3 key features you listed are basically the same in GT7 or GTS.

 

[SLB1904]

I play GT7/GTS and it's something I support because:

• The online race system and organisation is unrivaled
• You don't need to buy all the cars in one go
• You don't need to buy all the tracks in one go

I mean the 3 key features you listed are basically the same in GT7 or GTS.

In fact you don't buy tracks in gt at all

 

[DeepEnigma]

They just LOWERED the payout and you still think it's all fine and manufactured rage.

I give up.

There are those who are playing that have legitimate complaints in here, yes, then there are those with post histories.

Yes, I play iracing and it's something I support because:

• The online race system and organisation is unrivaled
• You don't need to buy all the cars in one go
• You don't need to buy all the tracks in one go