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[Thugnificient]

Apparently, the website used to say "Holiday 2020" but it has been changed for "Late 2020" for the U.K.

For Canada and the US, it remains Holiday 2020.

U.K. site

U.S. site

Some other news outlets are reporting the story. Anybody noticed if there has been a change from Holiday 2020 to late 2020?

It's a week old but wccfetch(who admittedly always put clickbait bullshit) reported on this;

Here stating;

The fact that the ability to register your interest in pre-ordering a PlayStation 5 was only made available to the North American market makes much more sense, looking at this.

Some might say that a game’s launch window doesn’t necessarily reflect Sony’s PS5 release plans. However, Sony’s PS5 product page for Great Britain saw a recent update that changed the release window so that it’s in line with the Black Ops Cold War delay. Instead of holiday 2020, UK buyers should expect a late 2020 launch date. The PS5 pages for France, Germany, and Japan also say the console is coming out at the end of 2020, according to Google translations. The US PS5 page still has that original “holiday 2020” estimate.

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[V4skunk]

Apparently, the website used to say "Holiday 2020" but it has been changed for "Late 2020" for the U.K.

For Canada and the US, it remains Holiday 2020.

U.K. site

U.S. site

Some other news outlets are reporting the story. Anybody noticed if there has been a change from Holiday 2020 to late 2020?

Late 2020 is holiday 2020.

 

[GymWolf]

Late 2020 is holiday 2020.

 

[Thugnificient]

Late 2020 is holiday 2020.

It is but there's also this;

 

[Birdo]

In the UK we don't call that season "Holidays". That's an american thing.

That could be the reasoning.

 

[TGO]

We don't call it Holiday here in the UK so it would be Late 2020

In the UK we don't call that season "Holidays". That's an american thing.

That could be the reasoning.

 

[Boss Mog]

Europe doesn't celebrate Thanksgiving so Holiday 2020 wouldn't make sense there for a November launch.

 

[Thugnificient]

In the UK we don't call that season "Holidays". That's an american thing.

That could be the reasoning.

We don't call it Holiday here in the UK so it would be Late 2020

You guys ever noticed the site going from Holiday to Late 2020? Or it's always been this way?

Europe doesn't celebrate Thanksgiving so Holiday 2020 wouldn't make sense there.

Thanksgiving in Canada is in mid-October.

 

[RoadHazard]

"Holiday" here in Sweden (and most of Europe I think) is like Christmas and a few more days. We don't have Thanksgiving and all that. November is just another month. So saying late 2020 makes more sense here if that's when it's coming.

 

[TGO]

You guys ever noticed the site going from Holiday to Late 2020? Or it's always been this way?


Thanksgiving in Canada is in mid-October.

Didn't pay attention, sorry

 

[replicant-]

The holidays has zero relevance here in the UK.

November is "late 2020".

 

[Abriael_GN]

Apparently, the website used to say "Holiday 2020" but it has been changed for "Late 2020" for the U.K.

For Canada and the US, it remains Holiday 2020.

U.K. site

U.S. site

Some other news outlets are reporting the story. Anybody noticed if there has been a change from Holiday 2020 to late 2020?

It's a week old but wccfetch(who admittedly always put clickbait bullshit) reported on this;

Here stating;

As others have already told you, you're overthinking this and the sites reporting this are the usual charlatans desperate for clicks on Labor day.

North America is the only place where "Holiday 2020" indicates the October-November period. Everywhere else in the world, "Holiday 2020" means Christmas, and this ain't coming on Christmas, so "late" applies to November, Holiday does not.

Saying "Holidays 2020" in Europe for a November date would be objectively incorrect and it would confuse people.

 

[Closer]

"Rest of the World" = UK, apparently

 

[PresetError]

It is but there's also this;

Yup. That's pretty much a staggered launch. But it's for COD, no the PS5.

Jim Ryan said 8 months ago that the staggered release of the PS4 was a mistake.

“I cannot comment on the timing of release or launch markets,” said Ryan. “However, the three-month delay for the release of PlayStation 4 in Japan was a decision that I was deeply involved in. There was reasonable ground for that decision, but these days I do not think that was a good idea. It was a decision made after much debate, but there may have been other options.”

 

[Camreezie]

They better fucking not

 

[Thugnificient]

"Rest of the World" = UK, apparently

World: USA
Rest of the world: UK

Did I forget anyone?

 

[Kdad]

Europe doesn't celebrate Thanksgiving so Holiday 2020 wouldn't make sense there for a November launch.

How does that explain Canada being lumped in...our Thanksgiving is Monday Oct 12 2020, in the US it is November 26 2020

 

[kruis]

The Dutch site has a vaguer date.

Najaar 2020 = Fall 2020

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

Christmas is technically still 2020.

You guys ever noticed the site going from Holiday to Late 2020? Or it's always been this way?


Thanksgiving in Canada is in mid-October.

WTF
.

 

[Thugnificient]

How does that explain Canada being lumped in...our Thanksgiving is Monday Oct 12 2020, in the US it is November 26 2020

Yeah, generally our Holiday period is considered the Christmas period, Thanksgiving to my knowledge is normally not included which is what I find puzzling.

Possible it releases in Europe like 2 weeks later like with the PS5. Wouldn't be a big deal and wouldn't be a delay per say because they haven't confirmed a worldwide launch as far as I'm aware.

 

[whyman]

Swedish site says Christmas 2020 so I guess that's it then. Angry that I will have to wait and if Microsoft releases here first.. maybe.

 

[Laconian Sword]

How does that explain Canada being lumped in...our Thanksgiving is Monday Oct 12 2020, in the US it is November 26 2020

Canada adopted Black Friday in recent years, so now we have a Holiday retail season as well.

 

[GHG]

"Holiday" isn't a recognised phrase or time of year outside of America.

 

[Starlight Lotice]

In the UK we don't call that season "Holidays". That's an american thing.

That could be the reasoning.

We call it Christmas, because we like to offend all religions.

 

[Aggressive Carrot]

It's just a difference in wording.

 

[Bojanglez]

Probably just localisation. A lot of English speaking regions probably just inherit the master copy and then localise it to local tastes.

 

[Abriael_GN]

We call it Christmas, because we like to offend all religions.

You mean offend easily triggered people who have nothing to do with religion.

 

[diffusionx]

Heh, nothing personnel

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

It is but there's also this;

I mean, you can't get much later and still 2020 than December, so maybe other regions are getting it a month later? IIRC they did this with PS4 staggered launch in NA and Japan, the latter getting it later (can't remember if a few weeks or couple of months though).

 

[Thugnificient]

Updated the OP. According to a website, the release window has indeed been updated on the PS5's page. Some guys on reddit are also saying the original page was "November 2020" but it has been updated to "Late 2020".

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

I mean it only makes sense, remember when there were "more important voices" (some American criminals) to be heard yet the rest of the world didn't matter? Of course the DiversityStation launches in the home of the correctly gendered first!

 

[Dodkrake]

It's normal. The greatest country on earth needs to get it first. They also release in the US at the same time so that they don't feel sad.

It's a joke, dear USA'ers, don't be upset already.

 

[MadYarpen]

Polish website says Christmas time 2020. I read this as December, or I guess the end of November / beginning of December. Christmas shopping is a big thing here...

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

I'm not sure why Sony even changed the date from 'Holiday' to 'late' 2020 this late in the day as none of the big retailers have changed the register interest graphics with Holiday on.

I think it is quite simple, though:

COD release is 13th
Thanksgiving is the 26th

Not sure how likely it would be to release PS5 on the 27th in NA or whether a week before/after is more likely but in the rest of the world a late Nov/early Dec release actually is late/winter/Christmas 2020 to most people.

 

[Ash Sparrow]

I tried to tell ppl

 

[Abriael_GN]

Updated the OP. According to a website, the release window has indeed been updated on the PS5's page. Some guys on reddit are also saying the original page was "November 2020" but it has been updated to "Late 2020".

It's funny when you see someone who has been overthinking something just cannot let go of their "gotcha" conspiracy theories.

Citing "some guys on Reddit" must be the climax of hilarious. Sony never officially mentioned "November 2020" anywhere, so there goes that.

 

[Vawn]

If it's still 2020, you can't really say it's delayed. The holidays run until New Years Eve on the last day of the year. And November can also be considered late 2020.

It seems like two ways of saying the same thing.

 

[MasterCornholio]

November : US and Canada
December : ROTW


It's what I'm expecting since they are still pushing a 2020 release date. However there will be a big shortage.

 

[Thugnificient]

It's funny when you see someone who has been overthinking something just cannot let go of their "gotcha" conspiracy theories.

Citing "some guys on Reddit" must be the climax of hilarious. Sony never officially mentioned "November 2020" anywhere, so there goes that.

What gotcha conspiracy? I said "delay" might be the wrong word because as far as I’m aware, they never mentioned a worldwide release so it seems possible it comes out in NA in mid-November and around Christmas in Europe or before. At least a poster here has said the Polish page says Christmas 2020.

And some guys on reddit are a valid source. It’s a public page I never paid attention to. It seems no one did either hence why I asked if it had been updated. The site I linked said it did and other people who paid attention said so as well.

 

[Coloress_Kafka]

2020 is so fucking bad they are about to attach additional months on this shit.

 

[Thugnificient]

If it's still 2020, you can't really say it's delayed. The holidays run until New Years Eve on the last day of the year. And November can also be considered late 2020.

It seems like two ways of saying the same thing.

Yeah "delay" is a poor choice of words on my part.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Yeah "delay" is a poor choice of words on my part.

They never gave us any fixed dates to begin with except for late/holiday 2020. So you really can't fall it a delay unless they push it to 2021.

 

[Thugnificient]

They never gave us any fixed dates to begin with except for late/holiday 2020. So you really can't fall it a delay unless they push it to 2021.

Is there a way for me to change my thread title? Doesn't seem I can without a mod.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Is there a way for me to change my thread title? Doesn't seem I can without a mod.

Just ask Mod of War to change it for you. I don't think you can edit the title yourself.

 

[Zato]

Late 2020 in UK is November / December (can't be any later than that or its the next year).

We don't use the term Holidays.

 

[dead monkey uk]

This has to be a meme at this point.

I have never heard anyone in the UK say holiday to describe Nov. But late 2020 to me means Nov or Dec.

 

[Slings and Arrows]

Late 2020 in UK is November / December (can't be any later than that or its the next year).

We don't use the term Holidays.

It hasn't stopped Tesco from putting Christmas food out! (Am i the first Brit to moan about this in 2020? do i win a prize?)

OT: it would make more sense to delay in NA and launch on time for the rest of the world.

 

[dead monkey uk]

"Rest of the World" = UK, apparently

Like the good old days. God bless the British Empire and God save the King.

 

[Vawn]

This has to be a meme at this point.

I have never heard anyone in the UK say holiday to describe Nov. But late 2020 to me means Nov or Dec.

To me, "holiday" means anytime between Thanksgiving to Christmas, maybe New Year's Eve. But there is no actual definition, as far as I know.

 

[Exede]

Late 2020 makes way more sense outside the US. We have no holiday season in germany and i'm sure a ton of other countrys don't have one, too.