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PS5/XSX/Steam versions of Resident Evil 7, Resident Evil 2, and Resident Evil 3 launch today

01011001

Banned
Oh thank God.
So i guess you can turn RT off and play with DualSense features and probably better IQ than before still at rock solid 60fps, correct?
I can only try it tomorrow unfortunately,

I assume so yes but I can try the same scenes I tested above to see. seems like a good stress test scene with all the fire etc.
 

TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
This is all I wanted really
Keep in mind they aren't highly reflective like they was before, the exact opposite actually.
It is reflective but not much.
I don't know if that's Ray-tracing or they completely remove that effect.
So far I haven't really been able to say "that's Ray-tracing" or SSR.
 
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adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Can someone please run a quick test for me.

are there still SSR artifacts in the RPD main hall in either the RT on/off mode ? I imagine RT will have fixed it but wondering if they improved SSR otherwise in the off mode.
 

NeonGhost

uses 'M$' - What year is it? Not 2002.
Can someone please run a quick test for me.

are there still SSR artifacts in the RPD main hall in either the RT on/off mode ? I imagine RT will have fixed it but wondering if they improved SSR otherwise in the off mode.
still there
 

Vick

Gold Member
Keep in mind they aren't highly reflective like they was before, the exact opposite actually.
It is reflective but not much.
I don't know if that's Ray-tracing or they completely remove that effect.
So far I haven't really been able to say "that's Ray-tracing" or SSR.
The ultimate test would be the rooftop where you extinguish the helicopter fire, right before Mr. X first appearance.
That area is (was?) an atrocious looking mess.
 
RE2 Ray Tracing

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TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
The ultimate test would be the rooftop where you extinguish the helicopter fire, right before Mr. X first appearance.
That area is (was?) an atrocious looking mess.
Well the laboratories was the worse.
Especially in RE3
 

Shmunter

Member
You don’t own the game.
I donated my disc when it hit psplus, as I always do.

Psplus has always been sold as giving you the full game benefit as long as subscribed. No longer the case since the FF7 remake, it’s a crapshoot. The ps5 version is supposed to be a free upgrade

If not for needing online, I’d be cancelling this shit immediately.
 

TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
I donated my disc when it hit psplus, as I always do.

Psplus has always been sold as giving you the full game benefit as long as subscribed. No longer the case since the FF7 remake, it’s a crapshoot. The ps5 version is supposed to be a free upgrade

If not for needing online, I’d be cancelling this shit immediately.
Too be fair, I think that's Publisher dependent.
Sony can't go giving away a next gen upgrade too if the Publisher see that as fitting the criteria for their free upgrade.
 

Vick

Gold Member
ok here's PS5, RT on vs RT off

I couldn't get RT off to drop a single frame


Thanks for these tests man.

Just one more question, IQ on PS4 Pro lacked TAA compared to One X, have you noticed any difference in this regard now?
I also assume IQ is the same between RT Off and On?
 
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Shmunter

Member
Too be fair, I think that's Publisher dependent.
Sony can't go giving away a next gen upgrade too if the Publisher see that as fitting the criteria for their free upgrade.
Even then, it's Sony's problem. They need to mandate to publishers - if you're not charging for the update do not charge for the update. It's confusing, it reflects poorly on psplus, it reflects poorly on Sony. But Jim gets his 30%, that's the only thing that matters.

His short term gains will be a loss in the long run. He doesn't give a shit cause he'll be off with a golden parachute before then.
 

01011001

Banned
Thanks for these tests man.

Just one more question, IQ on PS4 Pro lacked TAA compared to One X, have you noticed any difference in this regard now?
I also assume IQ is the same between RT Off and On?

Image quality seems pretty much the same, I could upload some system captured screenshots.
 

01011001

Banned
Thanks for these tests man.

Just one more question, IQ on PS4 Pro lacked TAA compared to One X, have you noticed any difference in this regard now?
I also assume IQ is the same between RT Off and On?

screenshots (tried to line it up as good as possible... weirdly the Xbox version has a slightly different camera angle when loading this checkpoint... it's weird

(brightness settings are different... didn't try to line those up)

PS5 RT on
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Series X RT on
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PS5 RT off
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Series X RT off
308e0f87-463e-4623-a8paji5.png











comp1lskg8.png


200% Zoom
comp2qnjz3.png
 
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Shmunter

Member
screenshots (tried to line it up as good as possible... weirdly the Xbox version has a slightly different camera angle when loading this checkpoint... it's weird

(brightness settings are different... didn't try to line those up)

PS5 RT on
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Series X RT on
632c41e7-30b6-451c-8c04k2b.png


PS5 RT off
1815fec89e323-screens10kz8.png


Series X RT off
308e0f87-463e-4623-a8paji5.png











comp1lskg8.png


200% Zoom
comp2qnjz3.png
As suspected, there are differences. One better than the other tho?
 

01011001

Banned
As suspected, there are differences. One better than the other tho?

it looks to me, on first glance, that both run at Checkerboard 4K in this scene or maybe 1800p CB. I could try to find a good pixel counting edge tho. (the Chromatic aberration makes this hard)
it seems to fill the native pixel grid pretty well tho and you can clearly see CB combing in some straight lines on both.

the brightness settings are completely off of course. I might try to get those in line as well
 
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lillars

Member
If I buy them digitally later (say at the next sale) for PS4, will I still get the free upgrade? Or is this something that only applies to past purchases?
 

Vick

Gold Member
As suspected, there are differences. One better than the other tho?
Differences in IQ were massive on previous gen. PS4 Pro sharper but aliased, One X more refined and cleaner.

Now they look pretty much the same from what i can see on these comparisons.

the brightness settings are completely off of course. I might try to get those in line as well
In that case you might as well use these settings on both (and probably keep them forever):

First pattern all the way up (or one step before max), second all the way down (or one step before min), last pattern +5 from Default.
 

01011001

Banned
In that case you might as well use these settings on both (and probably keep them forever):

First pattern all the way up (or one step before max), second all the way down (or one step before min), last pattern +5 from Default.

I might use these in the future, I now tried to just set my Xbox to the same setting I had on PS5. that doesn't always result in the same results but here are the 2 images that I tried to line up as best as possible

same scene, the PS5 runs this at 51FPS and the Xbox SX at 58fps btw. just as a comparison here
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XBOX SX 👆 /// PS5 👇
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It is hard to find an edge to properly pixelcount with tho. the chromatic aberration is really brutal and the TAA also obfuscates edges a bit
 
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adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Thanks for these tests man.

Just one more question, IQ on PS4 Pro lacked TAA compared to One X, have you noticed any difference in this regard now?
I also assume IQ is the same between RT Off and On?

I just wanna make a little note here, sorry.

PS4 Pro did *not* lack TAA.

The difference was that PS4 Pro only had TAA (not a very good version), One X had a pass of FXAA along with TAA, hence the better, yet softer coverage.

You can test this easily by matching the TAA vs TAA + FXAA options on the PC version along with console versions. If you remove TAA and just use the FXAA, the amount of shimmer everywhere is incredibly jarring.
 
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Vick

Gold Member
I might use these in the future,
Trust me, as soon as you'll do you'll regret you haven't used them before.

same scene, the PS5 runs this at 51FPS and the Xbox SX at 58fps btw. just as a comparison here
1cee5161-6da6-4a9e-aeyajx8.png

XBOX SX 👆 /// PS5 👇
181600b363915-screensmgjmm.png
Ok now it's more noticeable.. so same situation as before, Series X cleaner and PS5 sharper but more aliased.

Confused the images, looks like a completely reverse situation than previous gen. But less drastic.

I just wanna make a little note here, sorry.

PS4 Pro did *not* lack TAA.

The difference was that PS4 Pro only had TAA (not a very good version), One X had a pass of FXAA along with TAA, hence the better, yet softer coverage.

You can test this easily by matching the TAA vs TAA + FXAA options on the PC version along with console versions. If you remove TAA and just use the FXAA, the amount of shimmer everywhere is incredibly jarring.
I'll take your word for it.
 
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adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Ok now it's more noticeable.. so same situation as before, Series X cleaner and PS5 sharper but more aliased.

Yeah, I guess with the SSR artifacts also still being there when RT is off, looks like there wasn't a lot of engine level changes done outside of bolting on RT from last gen.
 

jimmypython

Member
The adaptive trigger functionality is great for both games. I just turned RT off. 60FPS is way more important for me due to motion sickness:(
 

Vick

Gold Member
Yeah, I guess with the SSR artifacts also still being there when RT is off, looks like there wasn't a lot of engine level changes done outside of bolting on RT from last gen.
I'm an idiot and confused the images, apparently the first one is the Series X, not PS5, and it looks sharper but less polished than the one below.
Unless they were accidentally swapped, looks like a reverse situation than we had before.
 
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01011001

Banned
so I tried to pixelcount this by using the firetruck on the right
and my count comes down to either 2.088p, 1.944p or 2160p
it's really hard to get it down, BUT this tells me this is a 2160p image most likely, at least on Series X, it's way harder to tell on PS5 due to the image looking softer (AA difference). and it most likely uses checkerboarding as well. so 2160cb

it's really hard to tell tho, here's my sample... and I'm not sure how many steps I can actually count here as the post processing just completely fucks you over here lol

top is Xbox, Bottom is PS5
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again, PS5 ran at 51FPS and Series X at 58fps in this exact screenshot. maybe a lower framerate could also explain why the PS5 looks softer, but I'm not sure. maybe there's a dynamic res in place here

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omegasc

Member
I thought it would have DLSS on PC. It's only FSR 1.0 which blurs the image too much for me even on the max setting.
 

01011001

Banned
I thought it would have DLSS on PC. It's only FSR 1.0 which blurs the image too much for me even on the max setting.

it has checkerboarding tho. maybe that looks better? (they call it interlacing)
it should look sharper, but you'll have combing artifacts
 
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