Rocco Schiavone
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Should be 5090 performance.
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RDNA 5 line up and performance expectations
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1C90XT, most definitely over.
1C70XT will be fairly close in raster, even closer in RT.
I wonder what NVIDIA tech my great, great, great grand kids will be playing when those release.
Edit: Misread your model, thought you were going for 1C090XT.... But ya. AMD isn't getting close to 5090. They keep skipping halo GPUs like with this gen.
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Shogmaster
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Don't put extra 0 in there. C mean 100 in Roman Numerals.
CoreyFlawless
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Everything looks fine besides the prices. Add 200-300 for each one. Ram prices getting worse
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Gently coaxed from my ass. Gently coaxed...
winjer
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Some features would be nice, such as Opacity Micromaps, Displaced Micro-Mesh, Mega Geometry, Triangle Cluster Intersection for RT, Linear Swept Spheres, Shader Execution Reordering, Neural Shaders / Cooperative Vectors, improved Ray Regeneration, full pipelined neural memory compression.
This is completely wrong.
AT4 dGPU WILL 99% NOT EXIST FOR GAMING
AT3 dGPU WILL 100% NOT EXIST FOR GAMING
Why? Because AT3 MINIMUM Memory config is 32GB of Ultra Premium LPDDR6. The least they can sell that for is 800$.
AT4 it's below Navi33 and the minimum memory config is 16GB of LPDDR5X; Where they will need to buy the highest bin LPDDR5X for it. for a Navi 33 victim forget about it.
THAT Aside, this is the actual lineup:
RX 1070 GRE (AT2) -
44 CU @ 3.2 GHz
215W
12GB 128bit GDDR7-36Gbps 576 GB/s
~105% raster/RT of RTX 4070 Ti
$499
RX 1070 (AT2) -
48 CU @ 3.2 GHz
235W
15GB 160bit GDDR7-36Gbps 720 GB/s
~103% raster/RT of RTX 4070 Ti SUPER
$549
RX 1070 XT (AT2) -
64 CU @ 3.2 GHz
275W
18GB 192bit GDDR7-36Gbps 864 GB/s
~100% raster/RT of RTX 5080
$649
RX 1080 (AT0) -
WILL 70-90% NOT RELEASE FOR GAMERS
152 CU @ 2.6 GHz
380W
36GB 384bit GDDR7-36Gbps 1.7TB/s
~95% Raster/RT of RTX 5090
$
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Shogmaster
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I like the thread engagement. I dont jibe your logic nor details.This is completely wrong.
AT4 dGPU WILL 99% NOT EXIST FOR GAMING
AT3 dGPU WILL 100% NOT EXIST FOR GAMING
Why? Because AT3 MINIMUM Memory config is 32GB of Ultra Premium LPDDR6. The least they can sell that for is 800$.
AT4 it's below Navi33 and the minimum memory config is 16GB of LPDDR5X; Where they will need to buy the highest bin LPDDR5X for it. for a Navi 33 victim forget about it.
THAT Aside, this is the actual lineup:
RX 1070 GRE (AT2) -
44 CU @ 3.2 GHz
215W
12GB 128bit GDDR7-36Gbps 576 GB/s
~105% raster/RT of RTX 4070 Ti
$499
RX 1070 (AT2) -
48 CU @ 3.2 GHz
235W
15GB 160bit GDDR7-36Gbps 720 GB/s
~103% raster/RT of RTX 4070 Ti SUPER
$549
RX 1070 XT (AT2) -
64 CU @ 3.2 GHz
275W
18GB 192bit GDDR7-36Gbps 864 GB/s
~100% raster/RT of RTX 5080
$649
RX 1080 (AT0) -
WILL 99% NOT RELEASE FOR GAMERS
152 CU @ 2.6 GHz
380W
36GB 384bit GDDR7-36Gbps 1.7TB/s
~95% Raster/RT of RTX 5090
$
RX 1080 XT (AT0) -
WILL 100% NOT RELEASE FOR GAMERS
184 CU @ 2.9 GHz
600W
48/128GB 512bit GDDR7-36Gbps 2.3TB/s
~115% Raster/RT of RTX 5090
$
But I love the effort!
Gaiff
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AMD always had stupid naming schemes. NVIDIA has kept the same one since GTX 200, only replacing the G with an R.
AMD changes it every other generation.
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Bojji
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And they named the latest cards 90x0 - where do you go from that?
They will have to reset the naming system again, so stupid... (same with the CPUs)
What I posted is the AMD desktop lineup on the roadmap for AMD.
That's what they are planning to release.
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OMG show us. I wanna see.
It's public information, posted by MLID.
90 / 99% refers to parametric harvesting. But the rest is straightforward. You can see there is only 4 planned gaming SKUs. One with AT0 and three with AT2.
AT3 / AT4 are designed for Medusa Halo and Medusa Premium. They can be used as dGPUs, but they only make sense as AI dGPUs. Basically if you're using LPDDR, it's a memory capacity play. Gaming on the other hand doesn't need 32GB on cards barely beating RTX 5060 Ti.
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Jeez, I thought you had something new. This is ooooolllld. MLiD literally leaked stuff hat supplanted this chart.It's public information, posted by MLID.
90 / 99% refers to parametric harvesting. But the rest is straightforward. You can see there is only 4 planned gaming SKUs. One with AT0 and three with AT2.
AT3 / AT4 are designed for Medusa Halo and Medusa Premium. They can be used as dGPUs, but they only make sense as AI dGPUs. Basically if you're using LPDDR, it's a memory capacity play. Gaming on the other hand doesn't need 32GB on cards barely beating RTX 5060 Ti.
The chart hasn't changed. The only change is that AT0 Gaming is no longer on the roadmap for gaming.
You have to separate MLID's mindless AMD cheerleading from what he is actually leaking.
To cut the truth from fiction.
AT3/4 dGPU Gaming SKUs aren't real.
Even theoretically speaking, AT3/4 Gaming don't make sense.
Again, AT2 with 15GB 160b G7 costs a lot less than AT3 with 32GB LPDDR6. It ALSO PERFORMS A LOT BETTER. Like 40-45% better.
Remember also that a 48CU cut of AT2 has 96ROPs. But 48CU AT3 has 64ROPs. That's a very significant difference.
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I dont know why you keep insisting LPDDR6 as a must. Its an option for AT3. MLiD update had both LPDDR5X @ 356bit bus and LPDDR6 @ 384bit bus.
Also, Helix uses AT2. It has 68 active CUs from 70 CU die. 48 CU is an ancient version from old ass roadmap. Things definitely got updated.
MLiD updated RDNA 5 leaks multiple times since that old chart he leaked that you keep holding on to for dear life. He got updated leaks from same sources that gave him that chart.
He has said AT4 is entry card and AT3 is 10060XT. If that's not correct, his sources would have contacted him. The sane sources that got him that chart in the first place!
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You really don't get it ha?
The minimum memory capacity for a 256b LP5X | 384b LP6 is 32GB. The issue is that 32GB is too god damn much for 9070 GRE performance.
And if it's LP5X, it's going to be RTX 4070 performance.
Do you think that RTX 4070 ~ RX 9070 GRE performance is compelling enough to sell for 700-800$ to gamers? LMAO. 4070 Ti at 799$ was a tough pill to swallow in 2022……
Or they can give you RTX 4070 Ti performance at 500$ with 12GB GDDR7.
it's not complicated.
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