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Red Orchestra 2: Rising Storm Invitation Beta is live (websites will give out keys)
- Thread starter crimsonheadGCN
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Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Next game?
Not an expansion?
Why 2?
Not an expansion?
Why 2?
legacyzero
Banned
Hell yeah! I'm like one of the 10 people on GAF that likes RO2 lol
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
I love it too but the final game was a mess. Mess is fixed via updates but it ruined the flow.
crimsonheadGCN
Banned
It is a standalone expansion, so you can play it without buying the original Red Orchestra 2.
If you have the original Red Orchestra 2 though then it will integrate with it.
CheesecakeRecipe
Stormy Grey
Oh yes, hopefully Tripwire learned from the absolute disaster that was RO2's launch and make this big. Will be waiting for them beta keys to land.
notoriousKTR
Member
Holy shit TWI really cleaned this game up. I bought RO2 on launch and was deeply disappointed. I could barely run the game at the lowest of settings. Then I reinstalled the game when the GOTY update dropped and still was disappointed; better but still not there.
Now with Rising Storm, the game runs amazing and the gameplay is slick and balanced.
Now with Rising Storm, the game runs amazing and the gameplay is slick and balanced.
CountAntonius
Member
Hopefully it does well for them. RO2 seems like an excellent game that fills a niche but was released buggy and ruined the hype.
legacyzero
Banned
legacyzero
Banned
CheesecakeRecipe
Stormy Grey
Hope they can take some of that magic and put it back into base RO2. I love it so much, but I hate it. 
so it was basically what RS2 should have been?
as rough as RS2 launch was, i'm still pretty hyped
do you need RS2 installed to run?
SJRB
Gold Member
Wow, trailer from 2011? Looks sweet though, might be a nice change of scenery after the countless hours on the frozen Russian tundras.
I'll miss my comrades though.
notoriousKTR
Member
The Pacific Theater is just so much more colorful.
I was quick to snag a beta key from the forum.
I assume you mean RO2 and yes, RS is what RO2 should have been.
RS is standalone, so you don't need RO2 installed. RS is little over 9GB. It might be a smaller download if you have RO2 installed.
I was quick to snag a beta key from the forum.
I assume you mean RO2 and yes, RS is what RO2 should have been.
RS is standalone, so you don't need RO2 installed. RS is little over 9GB. It might be a smaller download if you have RO2 installed.
I made a video, so heres some more gameplay if you guys want to see some
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0jS6nsVSl4
Loving the game so far, played some more last night, and had one of my best gaming experience playing
Also, game is 9gb if you have RO2 installed already, its completely standalone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0jS6nsVSl4
Loving the game so far, played some more last night, and had one of my best gaming experience playing
Also, game is 9gb if you have RO2 installed already, its completely standalone
Legato.Reborn-
Member
Look on the bright side. A majority of these people who get a key will probably only play the game for barely an hour while actual RO2 fans can wait around till the game releases :|
Red Orchestra isn't exactly a mainstream pew-pew title, people will just try it out and go "meh".
Bruce Campbell87
Banned
Red Orchestra 2 is the best FPS multiplayer I've ever played, I can't understand why there are a lot of cricisism. Well, release was a mess, but they fixed early a lot of bugs. From goty release, Ro2 works well as the game had to work from day 1, but this happens one year ago.
I hope Rising Storm may have a wider audience, american people want to play only as Usa Army.
I hope Rising Storm may have a wider audience, american people want to play only as Usa Army.
Guerrillas in the Mist
Member
I love it too, despite the shaky bug-riddled launch.
spindoctor
Member
Calling it a mess is being very generous.
Bruce Campbell87
Banned
I played the game since the beta started 15 days before release. With some adjustement, game was playable. Of course there were frame rate issue, even heavy bugs, but I still continued to play because it was the best multiplayer you can have in that period. I think people stop to play the game not because of bugs, but mainly they thought to play Battlefield 3 during second war world.
Now the game is "perfect", they gift the game with humble bundle, but population remain solid but small. No spraying is a big issue for modern FPS player.
Phife Dawg
Member
Hey, someone else cares about the game on GAF, cool. Looking forward to RS.
I was there right from the start of the beta and the game was always playable. That doesn't excuse all the issues but let's not go overboard here.
spindoctor
Member
Let's not go overboard? If anyone else had pulled off the shit that Tripwire did, you'd be screaming bloody murder and calling it a scam. At launch the game had massive performance problems, non stop crashes for both the client and servers, sound issues and tons of bugs. Remember the constant 10gb patches after release? Remember how they had to wipe all stats because it never worked at all? Tripwire knew all this. They knew the game was broken. They knew it was unfinished. They knew the game was nowhere close to being ready for release, and yet they released it anyway. That in my mind is the most egregious aspect of the whole debacle. And yet, somehow, their "indie cred" is supposed to shelter them from criticism for doing this shit.
Bruce Campbell87
Banned
Your statement is partially correct. All you said is true, but let be honest, veterans of the series don't fucking care about stats or improvement. We are playing in classic mode where unlock and stats are put away. Performance was problematic, but the game was still playable, always up 35 40 frame with medium rigs.
Other problems depends on unreal engine 3, if you follow other games like Chivalry: Modern warfare, you know that there are similar issue, like server browser or uncorrect spawn weapons, etc.
Tripwire is an indie software house(twelve people at launch of the game), I think is more and more problematic that Battlefield 3 or other triple AAA had a lot of issue not really fixed.
Phanatic8390
Member
I'm a veteran player who didn't care about stats but couldn't play the game because it was an unfinished buggy mess. The launch was absolutely atrocious.
Just because other games have bugs that doesn't give Tripwire a pass to release a game in the state it was. They had a real opportunity to expand their player base with RO2 but instead rushed it out the door and killed any chance of that.
Frankly after RO2 I'm wary of anything they are involved in.
spindoctor
Member
Even while posting about the stat reset thing I knew someone would hone in on it. The fact that you (or anyone else) didn't care about stats doesn't change the fact that it was yet another broken and untested game system. And performance issues were not insignificant. I believe that they had to rebuild entire maps which were actually optimized and then pushed down through patches. And the damn crashes. Even if you somehow managed to last an entire round without a client crash, the level transition would cause the server to crash.
Tripwire may be indie but they're not a bunch of guys programming out of a garage either. They're a proper indie publisher now. If they were short on funds, they could have done early pre-orders. As it stands, the sales broke all records for their company. They must have gotten tens (if not hundreds) of thousands of dollars from pre-orders alone. Don't try and sell the line that they had to release the game in the state it was because they're indie.
Tripwire may be indie but they're not a bunch of guys programming out of a garage either. They're a proper indie publisher now. If they were short on funds, they could have done early pre-orders. As it stands, the sales broke all records for their company. They must have gotten tens (if not hundreds) of thousands of dollars from pre-orders alone. Don't try and sell the line that they had to release the game in the state it was because they're indie.
If you don't mind me asking, what is your new avatar from?
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Did they patch Rising Storm so you can actually save video settings or is it still the same system of RO2 (why the hell was a 4:3 aspect ratio set as the default?) where it always switches back to the defaults no matter what you do?
Bruce Campbell87
Banned
I didn't minimize issues from the launch, but simply is not true that the game was unplayable. I played A LOT during first days, I knew people in teamspeak with me that played 12 hours the first day.
Also I don't remember sistematic crash when server change maps or the rounds finished.
Tripwire is supporting this game with patches and free dlc, even if the sales are not high at this time.
They're doing an entirely new game with a new settings and new weapons and maps, they admit people from Ro2 without making them pay the game.
Competitors offers patch during the dlc launch with 15 bucks and 4 maps, no sdk and I can go on...
They made a lot of mistakes but in my opinion they deserve much respect of how they treat their customers.
AstroZombie
Banned
Wrath of The Lich King.
RO 2 was so broken at launch that I made a vow to never buy another tripwire game before tons of patches.
spindoctor
Member
For some reason I seem to remember crashes during map changes but it has been 2 years so I could be wrong. Crashes were extremely frequent either way. Had a quick look at their update history and they mention fixing a problem where sound would go out during a level transition, which would have the same net effect of needing to restart the client and join the server again.
I guess they deserve praise for not charging for maps like everyone else does but supporting the game with patches is the bare minimum that they should be doing given how they released it.
You say they deserve respect for how they treat customers now, but why do you ignore how they treated customers at launch by deliberately releasing a broken game?
Lich King from ( World of ) Warcraft
Saw this interview with Tripwire president John Gibson by PC Gamer. It's pretty good and I get the impression from that they won't be making the same mistake with Rising Storm (and future games) the way they did with Red Orchestra 2. I really like Red Orchestra 2 but there's no doubt it launched as a playable mess. Certainly a lot better now though but here's hoping Rising Storm hits it out of the park.
Subterranean
Member
I have been playing a lot of RO2 lately and thankfully to the recent sales the community is actually populated now. Tripwire did a fantastic job and I can't wait for Rising Storm. The flamethrower and grenade mines are going to be a lot of fun.
Bruce Campbell87
Banned
you're correct, but crashes was random, I don't say that the game didn't crash
Two major problem for the release: staff members and aknowledge. Red Orchestra 2 is the first game built with unreal engine 3, a totally new world for Tripwire, they made Killing Floor and Ostfront using Unreal Engine 2.
I repeat, a lot of issues depends on engine, they can't choose another because, simply, they didn't have money. If you look behind, you don't see a lot of multiplayer games built around UE3 before Red Orchestra 2. It is not a good engine to make open multiplayer maps. They lost their time finding a work around to avoid huge patch update, because it's an engine built around consoles.
They made a lot a mistakes, but environment wasn't the best as a minimum
Now, with Rising Storm, they have huge experience and the game is ready. Look at the performance, I made some screenshoots:
http://i1.minus.com/ibgZE4HkjpJaWY.png
great cpu and gpu use
Btw, I'm playing the game in the last two hours, I find only minor issue, they have learned the lesson on their skin
PS: I hope you'll buy the game
Legato.Reborn-
Member
Bruce Campbell87
Banned
Instead I played more today than an year on Battlefield 3
legacyzero
Banned
Damn, I gotta lurk their forum more lol
Give me my money back for RO2 you dastards.
RO2 wasnt just buggy at launch, and for months afterwards, it was completely broken. utterly.
And theyre not getting another dime from me till I get my money back. It wasnt a kick starter for an alpha game, it was a fully released product.
Same goes for Konami since MGS3 and its utterly awful unplayable camera.
RO2 wasnt just buggy at launch, and for months afterwards, it was completely broken. utterly.
And theyre not getting another dime from me till I get my money back. It wasnt a kick starter for an alpha game, it was a fully released product.
Same goes for Konami since MGS3 and its utterly awful unplayable camera.
Bruce Campbell87
Banned
so much hate. I bought Battlefield 3, I think is worse than a punch in face, but I don't want my money back.
legacyzero
Banned
This post.. I... What..
Yeah, I just recently tried to get back into RO2...the game just does not scale well on high-end rigs. Jank performance. It's so frustrating...reminds me of the ARMA series. I don't understand why these guys can't just get with AMD and NVIDIA and figure out what's up.
Hopefully this new expansion raises the stakes so some add'l tuning will be done with the engine.
Hopefully this new expansion raises the stakes so some add'l tuning will be done with the engine.
Guerrillas in the Mist
Member
The game's performance has been fine for me personally since they patched it heavily, and I don't have anything near a high-end rig.