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[gaming_again]

There are all sorts of reasons why people might not be able to/want to have their console online the whole time. You don't buy a console expecting that to be necessary.

Besides, that clearly isn't the point. Does any other industry have people cheerleading anti-consumer practices within it? How do you feel about BMW introducing subscription services to heat your seats?

 

[Wildebeest]

100% expect Starfield to be the same.

I also 100% expect Starfield to be a legendary shitshow that further alienates their customers.

 

[ManaByte]

ITT people in the year 2023 who spend 24/7 on a video game forum on the internet (or social media) are mad about internet being required to play a video game.

 

[Mr Reasonable]

There are other resources, too, if you don't like that site.

The websites that suffered from the most outages

Discover the websites that experience the most outages and are down for the longest, with no amount of finger tapping and keyboard smashing getting them up again.

www.tooltester.com

Xbox Live Vs PSN: Which One Suffers More Outages?

New data has revealed that Xbox Live goes down much more often than PlayStation Now - and you'll be surprised about Steam.

www.gamebyte.com

I guess it just seems strange to me, I can remember like 2 instances of Xbox Live being down and I've been subbed for a over a decade and play most days.
This whole topic is a waste of time really.

People saying they wouldn't entertain getting an online game in 2023 to play on their consoles or computers constantly connected to the internet? Honestly, what a way to spend my life.

Putting this one on ignore.

 

[sainraja]

So, the game might be a bit like Destiny which isn't a bad thing but if that is what it is, then I think most of my time will still be spent on Destiny but we shall see how this turns out.

 

[Ozriel]

I have bigger concerns for this game, including its hyper political character lineup and rumor of it being pushed out early by Bethesda.

You people never cease to amaze me.

 

[Rac3r]

 

[Heisenberg007]

ITT people in the year 2023 who spend 24/7 on a video game forum on the internet (or social media) are mad about internet being required to play a video game.

Wait, I got you as well, fam.

 

[Wildebeest]

ITT people in the year 2023 who spend 24/7 on a video game forum on the internet (or social media) are mad about internet being required to play a video game.

If they want to get with the times and make free to play mobile games, they can.

 

[clarky]

So, the game might be a bit like Destiny which isn't a bad thing but if that is what it is, then I think most of my time will still be spent on Destiny but we shall see how this turns out.

Thats exactly what it is i think. Which is good because ive just about had my fill with D2 and could do with a fresh take on it

Weekly missions, strikes, loot etc in an open world with vampires. Sounds ambitious hope they pull it off.

Bit worried about the gunplay from the vids but everything else looked good

 

[oji-san]

The question is why? if it's something like Outriders at launch then that could be an issue as i had some issues connecting to Outriders. If it's all smooth then i won't care really.

 

[sainraja]

Yep, it's 2023 people. Even your toaster is online.

2023 isn't that far from 2022, though.

 

[Kacho]

Blows my mind seeing people defend this shit lol

 

[ANDS]

ITT people in the year 2023 who spend 24/7 on a video game forum on the internet (or social media) are mad about internet being required to play a video game.

For the people who GENUINELY have shit internet, they absolutely get my sympathy because they are clearly being left behind (and not just in gaming). To folks who are talking about internet outages as if they are power outages - yeah get over it. Internet is a utility, no matter what lobbyist in Washington say one way or another - and it should be treated as such, including when discussing whether or not it is "fair" for a game to require it.

 

[ManaByte]

Blows my mind seeing people defend this shit lol

Don't see people complaining about Destiny requiring online. They're both online shooters.

 

[Die Namek Ability]

If giving an email address and setting a password is the limit, then I'm not sure how you'd have coped at a time when you'd have actually left the house to go to and buy something. But, you do you, I guess.

Right and next this just need you to do this tiny little step, and next just this tiny little step. Like wtf, maybe you are too young but i remember the days that the only barrier for me to play a game was to get my ass of the couch plug in a cartridge, grab the controller and press the power button. I dont blame you though, youve been conditoned to think this way.

 

[sainraja]

Thats exactly what it is i think. Which is good because ive just about had my fill with D2 and could do with a fresh take on it

Weekly missions, strikes, loot etc in an open world with vampires. Sounds ambitious hope they pull it off.

Bit worried about the gunplay from the vids but everything else looked good

It [Redfall] will be a nice way for me to switch things up, but given that Lightfall is coming out soon, I think that will keep me busy for a while. Destiny is mostly all I play nowadays.

 

[dem]

Online shooter requires internet connection!


What's next? Tv's that require electricity?

 

[The_Mike]

How Gaf sees them selves vs how their opinions are.

 

[Ozriel]

Always online sucks. Is this the case with many Xbox Series X games or just Redfall?

I was waiting for some more of their AAA games to drop before considering buying one but if all of their games are always online then forget it

And yet you’ve been a HUGE fan of GT7, an always online game. Seems it’s perfectly fine for you when it’s on hardware you own?

adamsapple getting cooked for his past banter (and rightly so!) but just like STARSBarry said earlier, this whole thing cuts both ways.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Blows my mind seeing people defend this shit lol

It’s not about defending it, as much as it’s about not having an issue with it, or not caring. Should single player games ever, across all platforms require online? No. Do I care that some do? No.

 

[CuteFaceJay]

They must be confident because at the moment I'm unable to play the Division 2 because Ubisoft broke their launcher. Sure hope Blizzard net doesn't break the same way.

 

[Sybrix]

Xbox 360 is still available for those who dont like always online

 

[sainraja]

I thought Redfall was more of an online game than it being an offline one, so...was it marketed differently or something?

 

[ManaByte]

Online shooter requires internet connection!


What's next? Tv's that require electricity?

But what about the people who take their TV's to their grandparents where there is no electricity?

 

[adamsapple]

And yet you’ve been a HUGE fan of GT7, an always online game. Seems it’s perfectly fine for you when it’s on hardware you own?

adamsapple getting cooked for his past banter (and rightly so!) but just like STARSBarry said earlier, this whole thing cuts both ways.

Always check your histories before making comments people

 

[Esppiral]

Fuck this shit.

 

[cireza]

Makes things simple. I won't play this game.

 

[FeralEcho]

Not really an issue for me as I have had always on internet since 1997. Are there many nowadays that don't have it? Just seems like a non-issue.

Your 1997 internet connection wont help you for shit If the servers ever shit the bed one day and you're excited to play it but can't and good luck replaying the game in 10 years when they take the servers down completely.You see the issue now?

 

[sainraja]

Always check your histories before making comments people

lol. Opinions can certainly change. That is not the issue, but the fact that it changes depending on which box something is released on is amusing, and I appreciate that you are taking it lightly. It's not all that serious.

 

[Flabagast]

Yep, this game will please none of the traditional Arkane fans, in favor of the dude bro coop shooter crowd.

That's a shame really.

 

[mrmustard]

The only game I play more online than offline is GT7 and I think the online requirement for it is terrible and I'm not making excuses but I can at least still race on 36 different tracks and choose multiple layouts offline

It's a non issue to me. The last time my pc or any of my consoles wasn't always online was like 2009 or so. Sucks of course for a few people, but i could imagine it has something to do with anti cheat for multiplayer.

 

[R6Rider]

Don't see people complaining about Destiny requiring online. They're both online shooters.

 

[SCB3]

Doesn't effect me personally as my stuff is always online mostly (maybe the switch if I'm playing offline I guess) but yea sucks if you have shit internet which is still somehow a thing in 2023

 

[mrmustard]

Blows my mind seeing people defend this shit lol

It's not defending, it's simply not having an issue with it. It's like cosmetic microtransactions. Some people make a drama out of it, most don't care.

 

[Kacho]

I thought Redfall was more of an online game than it being an offline one, so...was it marketed differently or something?

They made it a point to say that the game can be played single player with optional co-op. They also compared the game to Far Cry and Borderlands, not Destiny and The Division.

 

[demigod]

Wait, I got you as well, fam.

Oh man, another L for him.

 

[gaming_again]

The lack of second order thinking by some people in this thread is shattering my mind into very small pieces. Are you all politicians or something?

 

[FeralEcho]

Damn...I wonder how Adam likes them apples?

 

[sainraja]

They made it a point to say that the game can be played single player with optional co-op. They also compared the game to Far Cry and Borderlands, not Destiny and The Division.

Ah, I see. I can see that giving people the wrong idea...still, I am thinking there is likely a good reason for it being required.

 

[levyjl1988]

This game is going to fail. Already the previews aren't attractive and any negative press is going to dissuade anyone, especially with initial impressions. Despite the gameplay, the characters you play aren't someone that I want to play as.

 

[Robb]

Only takes a minute or two, I wouldn't let it put me off a game.

I guess, but that’s all just.. bleh. When I’ve downloaded a game I want to push play and play it. I already have an account on Xbox, just use that.

It’s not that bothersome though, there’s plenty of games out there to play. If they want me to play their game they can just remove the extra account barrier and I’ll be happy to jump in.

 

[Ozriel]

Yep, this game will please none of the traditional Arkane fans, in favor of the dude bro coop shooter crowd.

That's a shame really.

Arkane devs threw everything but the kitchen sink in their last video to show how their game still worked as their typical immersive sims.

Yet you’re still popping up with this ‘dudebro shooter’ take.

Ah, I see. I can see that giving people the wrong idea...still, I am thinking there is likely a good reason for it being required.

Why would that give anyone the wrong idea about the game?
Being always online for the SP mode doesn’t make their game anything like Destiny or The Division.

 

[Die Namek Ability]

For the people who GENUINELY have shit internet, they absolutely get my sympathy because they are clearly being left behind (and not just in gaming). To folks who are talking about internet outages as if they are power outages - yeah get over it. Internet is a utility, no matter what lobbyist in Washington say one way or another - and it should be treated as such, including when discussing whether or not it is "fair" for a game to require it.

If only the problem was as simple as ones own internet connection...

 

[Crispy Gamer]

Had no idea this game was meant to be like Destiny until I entered this thread

 

[Ash Sparrow]

Ah, lets see how this gets treated.
Last year it was a problem for GT7. But pretty sure the tone and narrative will change now that an Xbox game is doing it…..

Ugh did you just start playing games this gen? Did you miss the whole Xbox One Fiasco?

 

[Pelta88]

Receipts.

There's nothing more entertaining on gaf.

 

[Ozriel]

This game is going to fail. Already the previews aren't attractive and any negative press is going to dissuade anyone, especially with initial impressions. Despite the gameplay, the characters you play aren't someone that I want to play as.

What previews? Press hasn’t gotten their hands on the game yet.

Despite the gameplay, the characters you play aren't someone that I want to play as.

The game is going to fail because you don’t like the characters?

 

[Rest]

I mean .. sure .. this isn't as big of a deal as it was 5 years ago.

I don't know how much this game relies on dailies/weeklies kinda things, but that might be one of the reason even in SP.

Don't be complacent about this kind of anti consumer bullshit.

 

[Hobbygaming]

And yet you’ve been a HUGE fan of GT7, an always online game. Seems it’s perfectly fine for you when it’s on hardware you own?

adamsapple getting cooked for his past banter (and rightly so!) but just like STARSBarry said earlier, this whole thing cuts both ways.

I hate GT7's online requirement but guess what I did today I did a couple of races offline and got to choose from 36 tracks each with at least 3 different layouts

Always online sucks and I couldn't imagine most of my games being that way