semiconscious
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they apparently decided to continue to create new, original games, rather than sequels... unlike a number of other developers...
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Negotiator101
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Is the art direction of Arkane games the reason for the hate? I do wonder if this was aiming for a more realistic look it would be getting a much more favourable reaction 
kiphalfton
Member
Not sure what the appeal is to this game. Looks janky, bad graphics, and like a Left 4 Dead ripoff.
AltogetherAndrews
Member
I absolutely adore Arkane, and the Dishonored games rank right up there with Deus Ex for me. This, however, I just don’t get at all.
samoilaaa
Member
no problem , go back to waiting for god of war ragnarok , we arkane fans enjoy actual good level design and environmental storytelling
fuck_diggity_cunt_ingdon
Banned
Looking really great, hopefully we’ll be playing by NEXT Halloween?
samoilaaa
Member
well they said that redfall will have everything that made dishonored and prey good games , if they will have that same freedom to aproaching missions as those games and a decent story i will be very satisfied
FearlessBelgian
Member
Look worst than back4blood
Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
This is Unreal Engine 5 and based on that, that artstyle looks absolutely awful considering its technical features.
What i am seeing is quite literally something UE4 can do aswell. I don't know, this reminds me of Dead Alliance in terms of artstyle. Meaning its rather bland.
What i am seeing is quite literally something UE4 can do aswell. I don't know, this reminds me of Dead Alliance in terms of artstyle. Meaning its rather bland.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Art style has nothing to do with technical features ... Fortnite has migrated to UE5 and it still has that same shitty art style.
AltogetherAndrews
Member
UE5 isn’t really that big of a leap from later versions of 4 anyway, so I’m not sure what features you feel are underutilized. Lumen is basically shit for anything but landscape at this point, and nanite is hardly a game changer other than resource saving. Niagara is even 4.
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BusierDonkey
Member
I loved Prey, Dishonored, Dishonored 2 and Death of the Outsider. I didn't think this looked great at first, mostly because I don't care for the vampire theme stuff, but I'm warming up to it. I thought Deathloop looked meh but I'm playing it right now and I'm having an absolute blast with it.
AltogetherAndrews
Member
It’s not exactly a looker, though. Not everything has to be a showcase, but a first party exclusive, and with their late-gen efforts being quite stunning… feels like it’s in its place to expect more.
Edit: removed hyperbole
Edit: removed hyperbole
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kiphalfton
Member
You didn't answer my question, but okay.
What in the trailer indicates there's any story telling? Level design looks totally uninspired compared to other Arkane games, say for instance Prey.
i know what an Arkane game entails, and this doesn't seem to really capture any of that.
Dishonoured and prey are amongst my favorite games, but I’m realllly not feeling redfall. I’m just hoping it’s terrible marketing that is misrepresenting the actual feel of the game in some attempt to capture some of the Fortnite crowd.
Guardians of the galaxy had pretty crap marketing but turned out great, so you never know.
Guardians of the galaxy had pretty crap marketing but turned out great, so you never know.
MDSLKTR
Member
Lack of shadows maybe?
drotahorror
Member
That's bullshit. Dishonored, it's DLC and PREY are god-tier. Dishonored 2 was still solid (haven't played the expansion).
Redfall looks bad graphically for one, the art design is nothing compared to Dishonored. The flashlights don't even cause dynamic shadows, something Silent Hill 2 and countless others have done for decades now.
The combat looks jank, nothing looks smooth at all. The hit reactions are basically non-existent*, there's none or hardly any blood (is this a dark horror themed game that's rated E for everyone?). Look at this combat encounter (time stamp 1:16) -
This mother fucker is gettin blasted with some sort of modded shotty and is not even flinching. Not til they do a 'glory kill' would you even know the enemy is injured. *There are some hit reactions on the enemies after the first one though, I'll give it that.
The game just looks budget as hell in multiple aspects.
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DaGwaphics
Member
Looking better and better. 2023 is going to be a packed year.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
This one isn’t for me but I wish arkane the best
Helghan
Member
Nothing in this trailer, but the E3 trailer did.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Looks fantastic! Can't wait.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Switch game...
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Fair point!
Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
No, but more modern features can make a bland artstyle feel less bland due to additional post processing.
Redfall just severly underutilizes UE5.
You list the things i would mention later. The Matrix Awakens isnt on UE4.
Based on what? Just you saying this isnt a fact.
Again based on what?
I mean Earthfall is on Switch (and PC and other consoles obviously) and does not look too dissimilar:
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yes I don't think it uses any of the fancier features like Nanite or Lumen. It must have been in development since very early phases of the engine, or even maybe started as a UE4 game converted to UE5 some time in the middle of development.
fart town usa
Gold Member
Kinda looks like FEAR, not so much gameplay wise but the flashlight and indoor settings.
Edit- After watching it again, I'd definitely play it if I had an XBOX but it also looks janky as shit, lol. The enemy attacks in the attic...
It reminds me of that Western style horror FPS that's releasing soon. That game looks better though IMO.
Edit- After watching it again, I'd definitely play it if I had an XBOX but it also looks janky as shit, lol. The enemy attacks in the attic...
It reminds me of that Western style horror FPS that's releasing soon. That game looks better though IMO.
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lh032
I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
tbh, majority of people agree its overrated.
theres not alot of games released in the same year as deathloop, lucky launch.
You took a poll?
We've used critic reviews as a judge of quality for a while now. No point in moving goalposts now.
nvm
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digoutyoursoul
Member
I’m a little surprised this is a Unreal Engine 5 game from the footage i have seen so far.
Iced Arcade
Member
Can't wait for this one. This was so much better than that tacky reveal video.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
abacab driver
Banned
They'll never get over it.
Pasta la Vista
Member
I mean if this is basically gonna be Dishonored with vampires, I'm on board.
Redfall is an open world game with a story, skill trees, side quests. Comparing it with L4D is non sense.
abacab driver
Banned
Psst..Microsoft has a bunch of those too.
EDMIX
Member
gothmog
Gold Member
Most people would not know that from the trailer. It does have a similar look and feel to L4D. I'm interested because it is Arkane, but not everyone is going to know that.
Chukhopops
Member
Every time they show this game it looks a little better. I don’t know if it will be good as a live service but I’m confident playing the story is going to be a blast.
I just hope it’s out before May because during the summer I’ll be playing Zelda.
I just hope it’s out before May because during the summer I’ll be playing Zelda.
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