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Returnal 2.0 update - incl Suspend Cycle and photo mode

tommib

Banned
I’ve just received the greatest of honours for my photos:

 
Maybe I'm alone or just exceptionally lucky, but I never really cared about losing a run because I can count on one hand the number of runs I had where I didn't feel like I had a great setup. Seriously, like every run by the end of the first biome I always felt like I got great RNG and that I am in good shape. And at that point who cares if you lose a run because you know the next one would be just as good.
The first time I beat the game, I went from Biome 2 all the way to the end in one shot. Had to stay up way later than I wanted to, because I didn't know the game resets you after the 3rd biome. Really wished for a save state that time, for sure
 
It's also mostly told very loosely through short audio logs and item descriptions, some of which are really really good. I would play an entire game based on the 4 sentence lore of the Hollowseeker gun.
Yep, lots of clues in the logs and item descriptions. I've seen several theories, and any number of them could be true. The devs specifically said they didn't want to answer all the questions in the game though. Gotta admit that I would prefer a more definitive ending, but it was still fun to ponder
 

Filben

Member
They really make it a big thing, having a save function. And like half the trailer was someone editing like four or five photos? I'm all in for photo modes, used them heavily in games like TLOU or Uncharted and HZD etc. but I can't say I don't feel like they make these two things a bigger thing than they really are.

A proper save feature should have been there from the start.

Nevertheless, good additions and a nice trailer.
 
Why are some people so stubborn when it comes to adding a save option for people who want it? finishing the game isn't a real accomplishment, you don't win at life because you beat returnal lol. It's a consumer product that people paid $70 for and there should be ways that everyone who bought it can enjoy it. I'll never buy this kind of game again and this is the first PS5 game that I bought that I just won't finish. I don't have the time or patience to keep starting over every time I die and it's not like it's easy. I love the way it plays and it looks really cool but this obsession with difficulty and punishing players has to stop.
 

Thaedolus

Gold Member
So for whatever reason I couldn’t get the update to install without deleting the game and reinstalling it, so now it’s copying from the disk (30+ minutes) and downloading a 21GB update file (55 minutes)

well I guess I can play more Metroid for the next little while
 

FrankWza

Member
finishing the game isn't a real accomplishment
Not anymore :)

just kidding but this isn’t exactly a save feature and I don’t know if it’s confirmed whether you can exploit it. It’s not a big deal but if you notice all the PlayStation PC threads that want PS games to go there? That’s all about Returnal one day being ported so that they can run mods and be able to beat it, so…
 

tommib

Banned
Returnal is definitely a dev game and will win awards there. It’s not a popular product so it will lose awards wherever the public has some say. We know in our little GAF corner what a fucking masterpiece it is.

Wasn’t there a guy who said he would kill himself if Returnal received any GOTY award? Can someone call professional help as well for him?
 
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rofif

Gold Member
Why are some people so stubborn when it comes to adding a save option for people who want it? finishing the game isn't a real accomplishment, you don't win at life because you beat returnal lol. It's a consumer product that people paid $70 for and there should be ways that everyone who bought it can enjoy it. I'll never buy this kind of game again and this is the first PS5 game that I bought that I just won't finish. I don't have the time or patience to keep starting over every time I die and it's not like it's easy. I love the way it plays and it looks really cool but this obsession with difficulty and punishing players has to stop.
I just use rotgland lobbed. It wins for you. I’ve finished the game but I agree. It’s too hard and runs get extremely long for rogue like
 

vdopey

Gold Member
Why are some people so stubborn when it comes to adding a save option for people who want it? finishing the game isn't a real accomplishment, you don't win at life because you beat returnal lol. It's a consumer product that people paid $70 for and there should be ways that everyone who bought it can enjoy it. I'll never buy this kind of game again and this is the first PS5 game that I bought that I just won't finish. I don't have the time or patience to keep starting over every time I die and it's not like it's easy. I love the way it plays and it looks really cool but this obsession with difficulty and punishing players has to stop.
I completely agree with this - For me gaming is about relaxation - it ain't about punishment for achievement. In an ideal world the game should cater to all - there should be an option to save they could title it "pussy mode" for all I care but if it allows me to play it / die have fun. I don't mind being called a pussy - screw it. The "h4rdc0re" can play it on normal or hardcore mode give me the ability to save, it ain't asking much - I paid full price for your game, I've always liked House Marques games - but be a bit more flexible for us folk that don't have time to play, die, rinse, repeat (I ain't 14 anymore with loads of time to burn)
 
The game looks cleaner in play with the new update, I wonder if they put in some proper drs or bumped up the resolution in places.

The photomode clearly gets a higher res output, as the game doesn’t look quite that sharp.
 

Bartski

Gold Member
Finally found some time to check the update, photo mode is perfect, looking forward to housemarque doing regular best of galleries.

Also, not sure if this was confirmed already but suspend cycle is a regular save state working as in every other game. Happy scumming!

 

FrankWza

Member


Just as we’ve speculated since the OT and through the many discussions about this feature being added. Oh well. Hopefully this helps sales at least.
 
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Bartski

Gold Member


Just as we’ve speculated since the OT and through the many discussions about this feature being added. Oh well. Hopefully this helps sales at least.
holy shit what a discovery
 

sloppyjoe_gamer

Gold Member
So overall i really like this game. The suspend feature is nice for those who cant allocate hours to a sit down session.

While thats nice, unless im missing something obvious, its still quite tedious when you die. I have to kill this cocksucker Phrike and everytime i die im alllllllllll the way back to the ship not even close to where he is and i have fight all over again, and i cant even use a teleporter to get closer. Thats not fun its tedious. I just want to get back and battle Phrike again
 

Edgelord79

Gold Member
The suspend mode is what I've been waiting for. Really wanted to like this game but couldn't due to this exact issue.

I'll be jumping back in!
 
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Edgelord79

Gold Member
I'm not a huge rougelike fan myself but I know how popular this genre is on PC. Sony should release this before Uncharted and God of War. It will sell millions.
I would rather play this on PC with a keyboard and mouse at 144 Hz due to the mechanics. This would sell better on PC than PS5 in my opinion. Feels like it was made for it in some ways.
 
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kyoji

Member
??

Am i missing something?

At least in the souls games i can open shortcuts and run right back to a boss attempt unlike this game. Just feels tedious in this game when all i want to do is get back and re battle the boss
You are doing something terribly wrong my friend if its taking you 15-20 min to get back to a boss after unlocking the shortcut, the only biome that doesnt have a shortcut is the final one, and citadel (kinda) but there is still a shortcut to save massive amounts of time. Every other area you can reach the boss within just a few minutes.

But my advice to you is if you are dying to a boss maybe take time to farm at least part of the biome(s) before fighting said boss, otherwise your chances of success are lowered, which if you are dying at the boss fight sounds like a good idea to do.
 

sloppyjoe_gamer

Gold Member
You are doing something terribly wrong my friend if its taking you 15-20 min to get back to a boss after unlocking the shortcut, the only biome that doesnt have a shortcut is the final one, and citadel (kinda) but there is still a shortcut to save massive amounts of time. Every other area you can reach the boss within just a few minutes.

But my advice to you is if you are dying to a boss maybe take time to farm at least part of the biome(s) before fighting said boss, otherwise your chances of success are lowered, which if you are dying at the boss fight sounds like a good idea to do.

Im seriously missing something then lol, thanks for the info, ill check again today when i play. Love the game though, dont get me wrong
 

sloppyjoe_gamer

Gold Member
You can fast travel to unlocked locations, so is that not a form of shortcut?

I know about the teleporters is that what you mean? After i respawn after dying and i go to one it always says "No active point" or something like that. Are those what youre talking about? I must be doing something wrong lol
 
I know about the teleporters is that what you mean? After i respawn after dying and i go to one it always says "No active point" or something like that. Are those what youre talking about? I must be doing something wrong lol
Yeah, I must have misread your post before, because you said "after dying". For some reason I thought you were talking about having created an outside save to save scum with. I must have conflated your post with someone else's. Yes, I was talking about the teleporters.
 
I would rather play this on PC with a keyboard and mouse at 144 Hz due to the mechanics. This would sell better on PC than PS5 in my opinion. Feels like it was made for it in some ways.
Have you tried keyboard and mouse on ps5? I haven’t tried it myself, but it’s supposed to work. I wanted gyro aiming personally, but I got used to what’s there and remapped the controller, and now it flows pretty smooth. I wouldn’t doubt Sony will eventually release it on PC though.
 

Edgelord79

Gold Member
Have you tried keyboard and mouse on ps5? I haven’t tried it myself, but it’s supposed to work. I wanted gyro aiming personally, but I got used to what’s there and remapped the controller, and now it flows pretty smooth. I wouldn’t doubt Sony will eventually release it on PC though.
No I haven't, but I'll definitely try thanks!
 

FrankWza

Member
I know about the teleporters is that what you mean? After i respawn after dying and i go to one it always says "No active point" or something like that. Are those what youre talking about? I must be doing something wrong lol
No the “shortcuts” are there once you’ve defeated a boss in biome and acquire new abilities that allow you to reach previously unreachable areas. They allow you to go directly to the next biome pretty quickly depending on where the room spawns
 

sloppyjoe_gamer

Gold Member
No the “shortcuts” are there once you’ve defeated a boss in biome and acquire new abilities that allow you to reach previously unreachable areas. They allow you to go directly to the next biome pretty quickly depending on where the room spawns
Ok gotcha....im still in biome 1 and its the first boss im talking about. So it sounds like im fkd on shortcuts until i beat this first asshole boss lol
 

FrankWza

Member
Ok gotcha....im still in biome 1 and its the first boss im talking about. So it sounds like im fkd on shortcuts until i beat this first asshole boss lol
Yes. So, as you progress you will be able to “jump” to your current unfinished biome. I don’t want to get too spoilery but there will also be a checkpoint at a certain time as well. The risk/reward is, do you want to “jump” or do you want to build up before attacking the boss again? So, once you complete boss 1 do you want to go to biome 2 and, depending on rng and layout, risk running into the next boss too quickly without having build up your character.
 
Why are some people so stubborn when it comes to adding a save option for people who want it? finishing the game isn't a real accomplishment, you don't win at life because you beat returnal lol. It's a consumer product that people paid $70 for and there should be ways that everyone who bought it can enjoy it. I'll never buy this kind of game again and this is the first PS5 game that I bought that I just won't finish. I don't have the time or patience to keep starting over every time I die and it's not like it's easy. I love the way it plays and it looks really cool but this obsession with difficulty and punishing players has to stop.
On PC someone would have made a mod.
 

N1tr0sOx1d3

Given another chance
Having a miserable time with Biome 3. I can make it to the boss, but I lose half health and everything else in the process. Christ this game is hard. Even after I gear up to the hilt.
 
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