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Little Mac
Gold Member
Just finished the first episode. It was fun. Not all the comedy landed but I appreciate the pacing of the episode. It doesn't take itself seriously and doesn't waste your time. 7.75/10. There's a post credit scene revealing something very important 
ManaByte
Gold Member
There's a post credit scene revealing something very important
ManaByte
Gold Member
She was always smaller than Banner in the comics, up until she became Savage She-Hulk and they bulked her up A LOT.
I just realized this could be a thing in the MCU now:
MastaKiiLA
Member
How accurate to the comics is the origin story? I'm unsure how to feel about the show after this one episode.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
It's different, but close enough.
MastaKiiLA
Member
Thanks. I was curious about that.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I really liked the first episode.
ManaByte
Gold Member
In the comics she was injured and needed a blood transfusion and Bruce was the only one there with her blood type. That wouldn't work in the MCU because literally everyone on the planet knows that Banner is the Hulk and no doctor would do that, so they modified it in a way that made sense.
RAÏSanÏa
Member
I don't have a great explanation for it.
That's a delivery of humour that's more mature. Implied and not walked in. If others miss it it's not an issue. Even if on some level they know there is some inside joke there the She-Hulk helps portray that processing on screen and leads to some conclusions.
Brava.
That's a delivery of humour that's more mature. Implied and not walked in. If others miss it it's not an issue. Even if on some level they know there is some inside joke there the She-Hulk helps portray that processing on screen and leads to some conclusions.
Brava.
sol_bad
Member
There is the typical woman having to say she can do everything a man can and complaining about people explaining stuff to her. That has become a trope now.
ManaByte dont go on YouTube.
My wife related to that line a lot actually. She always has men at her warehouse job trying to explain things to her that she already knows.
She said "Yeah fuck those men", which made me laugh.
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FunkMiller
Gold Member
From other thread:
Not bad at all. All feels pretty inconsequential, but entertaining, with some good laughs. She’s a spot on bit of casting.
Only real issue is that they’re dropping the ball on She Hulk’s character a bit with her just breezing through her transformation with ease. They’d better be introducing some flaws in the next couple of episodes, or that good old Mary Sue argument will come back out again.
Not bad at all. All feels pretty inconsequential, but entertaining, with some good laughs. She’s a spot on bit of casting.
Only real issue is that they’re dropping the ball on She Hulk’s character a bit with her just breezing through her transformation with ease. They’d better be introducing some flaws in the next couple of episodes, or that good old Mary Sue argument will come back out again.
AJUMP23
Gold Member
I’m glad you helped the weaker sex feel good about herself. Those mean men really have it out for you and her fragile existence was validated by you.
sol_bad
Member
Yeah, the show straight up pointed out the device on his wrist which I was very curious about after the Shang Chi credits scene.
bitbydeath
Member
Men do it to other men too, they just don’t bitch about it.
RAÏSanÏa
Member
sol_bad
Member
I highly doubt that.
Not great, Bob. None of the comedy landed for me, with the main running gag ("Was Captain America a virgin?") just being a punchline with no build-up at all: it might have been funnier had Bruce been telling Jennifer about Steve Rogers throughout their time together to teach her things and her takeaway was that he must have been a virgin. That the entire joke is the idea that it's supposedly funny that Captain America might not have had sex shows how little the writers understand humour beyond quips (which are about wit and timing, of which the Captain America schtick had none). Bruce constantly doing Superhero Sad Face about Tony Stark was clumped in with no finesse or purpose beyond 'Remember how Tony Stark died in Infinity War? Marvel universe, everyone!' The female empowerment stuff was as clichéd as it comes, not showing empowerment through Jennifer actively achieving anything - in fact, she didn't even want to be She-Hulk - but by her reactions to the generically odious men around her. While a woman dealing with men being condescending or dismissive of women can work in and of itself, the stuff here is the most by-the-numbers, one-dimensional material possible: men telling her to smile, trying to take credit for her work, explaining things to her, being pushy and disrespectful outside a bar, etc. Exactly the same stuff, almost to the letter, from Captain Marvel and Wonder Woman 1984. Even if we momentarily take it for granted that these are every woman's shared experiences, as the show seems to posit, it's still become tiresome cliché in storytelling terms and is often relayed in didactic generalities (fear and rage are every woman's baseline emotions, apparently).
As for the story itself, the 'hang out with Bruce' conceit might have felt more substantial had there been any sense of progression, instead of Jennifer just repeatedly showing Bruce that she didn't need to be there and thus communicating to the audience that it was a waste of time, or even were the moment-to-moment material any better than undercooked jokes (when they were discernable as jokes) or weightless action in cartoony CGI. The only thing that mattered in the flashback was that Jennifer got infected with Bruce's blood, and perhaps his assertion that his door is always open, assuming he's coming back. In other words, around 90% of the episode could have been cut and little-to-no difference made to the weirdly abrupt ending: Jameela Jamil bursts into a courtroom and needs thumping! Why? Well she IS Jameela Jamil, but within the episode there was no reason given beyond her being there for the sake of giving Jennifer a badly contrived reason to reveal her Hulk-self.
Long story short: more badly written Marvel time-wasting with bad CGI, worse clichés and 'jokes' barely recognisable as such.
As for the story itself, the 'hang out with Bruce' conceit might have felt more substantial had there been any sense of progression, instead of Jennifer just repeatedly showing Bruce that she didn't need to be there and thus communicating to the audience that it was a waste of time, or even were the moment-to-moment material any better than undercooked jokes (when they were discernable as jokes) or weightless action in cartoony CGI. The only thing that mattered in the flashback was that Jennifer got infected with Bruce's blood, and perhaps his assertion that his door is always open, assuming he's coming back. In other words, around 90% of the episode could have been cut and little-to-no difference made to the weirdly abrupt ending: Jameela Jamil bursts into a courtroom and needs thumping! Why? Well she IS Jameela Jamil, but within the episode there was no reason given beyond her being there for the sake of giving Jennifer a badly contrived reason to reveal her Hulk-self.
Long story short: more badly written Marvel time-wasting with bad CGI, worse clichés and 'jokes' barely recognisable as such.
ManaByte
Gold Member
That's exactly what it's setting up. It's probably one of the many unannounced Phase 6 movies in 2025. The distribution rights will have reverted to Marvel by then, so they can start setting it up now.
Or they could do it as a TV show and not have to wait, but that's a movie-sized event.
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ManaByte
Gold Member
BadBurger
Is 'That Pure Potato'
Enjoy people liking the show while it lasts, I just glanced at YouTube and...
People are getting super serious about it on Twitter over mental health because of that pretty mundane conversation about controlling anger (because Bruce was abused and was in such a bad place once he attempted suicide numerous times). I'm reading the the tweets thinking, cuz, it's a non-stop Marvel comedic fantasy that ends with a joke about Captain America not being a virgin and having a great ass. Like why in the hell are people taking this so seriously?
ManaByte
Gold Member
Probably the same people who were screaming about Thor "deadnaming" Heimdall's son who wanted to be called Axl instead of Astrid.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Gold Member
People on both sides can get a bit insane lol
RAÏSanÏa
Member
What a peculiar thing to complain about. If it goes strongly against the character than maybe there is a complaint about the show. Fiction, in part, exists to introduce issues in a way where they can be discussed. It doesn't seem like they understand that fiction doesn't have to create ideal situations to teach ideas, the faults of characters can do that too with the work being done by the viewer.
Maybe they expect the show to be more simplistic. That's not unexpected, a lot of shows and interpretations are that shallow and expect everything plainly laid out and explained with no ambiguity or character flaws.
Jaybe
Member
Reviewers seemed to indicate episode 1 was the best of the 4 they were given to review. Smart to get people hooked. My expectations are tempered though from this initial first episode praise. I’ll see how you all like it by the end of these 9 episodes and the then binge if the quality holds.
ShadowNate
Member
First episode, so far so good. Kind of meh ending, I expect there's probably more to that scene (not the post credits one ) that will be followed up in the next episodes.
Maslany did very well and acts the hell out of the role. Very happy about this.
The two people who are her work-friends(?) can burn in a fire though. Hopefully, they won't be so one-dimensional and annoying after a few more episodes, and the episode did focus more on Banner and Jennifer than anything else.
) that will be followed up in the next episodes. Maslany did very well and acts the hell out of the role. Very happy about this.
The two people who are her work-friends(?) can burn in a fire though. Hopefully, they won't be so one-dimensional and annoying after a few more episodes, and the episode did focus more on Banner and Jennifer than anything else.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
Acting chops? Sure! She's great. But you know what's great?
TONS OF FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTS.
Tams
Member
Post credit scenes on a streaming service.Just finished the first episode. It was fun. Not all the comedy landed but I appreciate the pacing of the episode. It doesn't take itself seriously and doesn't waste your time. 7.75/10. There's a post credit scene revealing something very important
What is this world coming to?!
MaestroMike
Gold Member
Lukaku's First Touch
Member
I liked the episode, but the that last scene was weird, some random villain showing up and getting knocked out. Made me think she was dreaming. Also for me it seemed Hulk was the main character in this movie. Sadly he looks like a giant pussy now so I'm afraid what that will mean for future movies. They already made me rage with not having him rage fight in the last avengers movie and that bs with his burned arm.
And of course Marvel can't resist adding some bs in every show. 'men tell me what to do' , 'men catcall me', 'men harass me' only to have her objectify captain America in the after credits scene. The irony. Tough I'm surprised they left out the 'white' in front of those lines.
And of course Marvel can't resist adding some bs in every show. 'men tell me what to do' , 'men catcall me', 'men harass me' only to have her objectify captain America in the after credits scene. The irony. Tough I'm surprised they left out the 'white' in front of those lines.
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Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
So far so good despite my doubts. Not as good as Loki or WandaVision, but another solid entry.
MCU continues to fuck and fuck hard I guess.
MCU continues to fuck and fuck hard I guess.
Danteyke223
Member
Bruce Banner's struggle is invalidated cause muh women suffer more cause of catcalling. Yeah I can definitely tell this was written by Wahmen. I wouldn't even mind the concept, but everything is taken away from Banner in the most shittiest way ever, I'm not talking about going rage hulk or whatever. The basic origin story for She-Hulk was as far as I recall is that she's suffering from cancer, does not have much to live so she asks Bruce to try and help her.
Also is Mark Ruffalo just shouting his lines ?
Also is Mark Ruffalo just shouting his lines ?
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Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
She was never anywhere near the size of Bruce in the comics unless she completely lost all control of herself similar to how Hulk got way bigger when Bruce lost all control.
For example this is her in the comics when she loses her shit compared to her normal form.
Normal form
No control at all and completely "Hulked" out
The more control she loses the more "Hulk" she becomes. Think of her as a reverse of the regular Professor Hulk that Bruce eventually mastered. She starts off at the most subdued and under control mode. She just goes all downhill from there the more she loses control.
So this depiction is 100% loyal to the common comic representation of her. It's not some theme that Disney pulled out of their ass.
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ManaByte
Gold Member
He's getting his own solo movie where he fucks everyone up. This episode literally set it up. A Sakaarian Class A Courier Ship showed up to deliver him a message from Sakaar and he said he had to get to the bottom of it. The result of that is:
ManaByte
Gold Member
Hey look, I found the 1 person on planet Earth who didn't see Endgame, seeing as how he thought this reference was Jennifer "objectifying" Cap:
