TurnipFritters
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That someone would be me.I was going to post it in this thread soon, but I'm pleasantly surprised to already be beaten to the punch so soon after uploading it. The wonders of the Internet.
I am as a ninja.
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Shin Megami Tensei IV 4th Trailer
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I am as a ninja.
That's a personal word choice on my part just given what the original Japanese trailer uses. If the kanji that they've used in past games was 天使 (what's normally used in Japanese to refer to angels as we understand them) or something along those lines to refer to law-alignment guys rather than 神 (just plain old "gods") as these trailers have, then I wasn't aware of the precedence until now.
Hmm OK. They do say "kami" in the trailer which is god too.
Yeah, that confuses me too. A friend once told me that if... is considered in the mainline because the game starts off in Japan, unlike Strange Journey.
Ah, thank you so much! Your translation of the trailer cleared up a misconception for me thinking that the game was set in the future. Now I know there's some sort of time travel involved.That someone would be me.
P.S. I like corgis too.
To be certain, "Angels and demons" isn't an inherently wrong way to translate it when the text at least pops up on the screen; at some point it just boils down to what comes to mind for me personally when I'm doing the translation on this sort of stuff. In retrospect, it's a bit more romantic and evocative of a phrase to go with. "Gods and devils" would have also been another valid choice I could see other translators using, along with similar variations. It's just one of those things that boils down to semantic preferences since so little translates directly one-to-one between Japanese and English. At some point I just have to work off what the text is evoking in me on a sentimental level when it comes to that sort of work, albeit significantly less so in this case specifically.
Happy to be of service! And it's actually a shiba. I am certainly not against a corgi-with-glasses icon in the future, though.
Deified Data
Banned
You heard right. This game will be amazing! Please let this come over sometime this year.
Art is slick and presentation seems to be quite a step above Strange Journey. I really look forward to seeing how the two worlds are connected.
I can already tell I'm going to dislike both Law Guy and Chaos Guy. Hope there's an attractive middleground (other than "humans rule!")...
Not questioning your superlative subtitling, but the trailer's usage of "Gods vs. Demons" is pretty...let's call it evocative. A good portion of any SMT demon roster is made up of gods-- are the "gods" talked about there of a separate sphere entirely? The lack of Law v. Chaos is also interesting, considering there are lawful "demons" and chaotic "gods" aplenty.
At worst, I think it's a bit reductive to define the conflict in those terms, but the tone of the game seems to be a return to the more pulpy plotlines of I and II.
Chrono Helix
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Wasn't aware of that. I was worried that it'll be like most of the other SMT games, which if I'm not wrong, had MCs restricted to using items and physical attacks.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
So may we finally have a not
dickish law faction?
so
If you count Devil Survivor, their Law-equivalent faction is actually pretty soft compared to the the earlier games. They help you even if you are not on their routes.
SpaceBridge
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Oh man, subtitles made me more confused. So, I guess there is time travel?
Also that last song in the trailer was fantastic.
Fimbulvetr
Member
Possibly.
I'm thinking that the higher ups of the country the protagonist comes from are lying about certain things(including the date) to maintain stability.
SpaceBridge
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Huh? You mean secret government/cult is hiding a castle empire in modern Japan?
Fimbulvetr
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More like castle empire is hiding the rest of demon-infested, post-apocalypse Japan from its own citizens.
I think it was stated in at least one piece of media for the game that most of East Mikado's citizens don't know about demons, and the Samurai themselves are sworn to secrecy about it.
Am I the only one who thinks this looks...not good? It looks "cheap". The way your character runs through the streets/dungeons looks clumsy and linear. The battle system looks (too) old-school and boring. The art style is bizarre and off-putting. The animations (enemies in particular) look like old Pokemon animations. Just doesn't look that good.
Music sounds great, though. And am I seeing armor that changes as you equip it? That's always a plus.
I hope this goes without saying, but this is all my opinion, of course.
Music sounds great, though. And am I seeing armor that changes as you equip it? That's always a plus.
I hope this goes without saying, but this is all my opinion, of course.
SatelliteOfLove
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Press Turn is the finest turn-based battle system ever crafted.
As for the rest, Megaten has lost some clout in an era where truly dark, mature narratives in Japanese games is under siege, and indifferent difficulty in gaming in general. The behind the scenes position of the series' long-time visionary Kaneko is also felt, surely.
Who knows? It sells well, we may get stronger. Also note the rigidly 2D look not only harkens back to its 90s roots, but also allows for freaking gobs of enemies on-screen.
So I assume you have never played a SMT game, right?
Yeah, really. The way the MC runs is similar to how Demifiend runs in Nocturne. Also lol at press-turn being "old school and boring." SMT IV's version is bound to have improvements even in the press-turn found in Nocturne/DDS too.
Art style and sprites are subjective but I like the art in this game a lot and I think the animated sprites are fine. There are even unique death animations which are cool.
Lightning Lord
Banned
As someone who has only played Persona 3, it will be very interesting to get into SMT's main series. It looks like a completely different beast.
Play the others!!
Find Nocturne, play it enjoy it, love it. It hasn't aged at all, looks fantastic as well.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
I'm pretty sure you will be dissapointed.
DDS was cutscene heavy...
Some new screens from Dengeki: http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/614/614484/
The backgrounds in some of those conversation scenes look FUCKING AWESOME!!!
The backgrounds in some of those conversation scenes look FUCKING AWESOME!!!
Heart Attack
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OMG!!.. the backgrounds are fucking amazing.
mocolostrocolos
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Incredible.
Canis lupus
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The combat is not in a 3D arena? I mean, you don't see your characters moving around and attacking enemies?
Still not sold on this.
Man, I wish it was prettier. It looks like a DS game, for the most part.
Some parts look really cheap. Others don't. The art style for the characters is very good though, I think.
Man, I wish it was prettier. It looks like a DS game, for the most part.
Some parts look really cheap. Others don't. The art style for the characters is very good though, I think.
TurnipFritters
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Haha Gaby's character description pretty much confirms my suspicion that she's Gabriel in disguise.
cj_iwakura
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Some new screens from Dengeki: http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/614/614484/
The backgrounds in some of those conversation scenes look FUCKING AWESOME!!!
Yep, I love this stuff. Reminds me of (OG) Devil Summoner's background designs.
decoyplatypus
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buddha0991
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Seems pretty obvious actually
cj_iwakura
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Wow, those do look nice.
Who is this guy?
Some kind of non-demon Odin?
Reminds me of SMT Imagine's Snakeman, different eye though.
If anything, the gorgeous background work makes me lament what could have been if this had gone to consoles.
SatelliteOfLove
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By design, and half of them were about canabalism!
SpaceBridge
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Some new screens from Dengeki: http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/614/614484/
The backgrounds in some of those conversation scenes look FUCKING AWESOME!!!
I wonder how 3D these will be?
FUCK. It all depends on how the story goes when. SJ just had so much crap filler dialogue. I wouldn't mind something like SMT 2 or Persona 1/2.
It didn't feel that way to me. Lots of them were pretty short and they didn't state the absolute obvious like many RPGs do.
Probably about the same as Etrian Odyssey and Soul Hackers (I'm guessing on this one).
cj_iwakura
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Personally I'm hyped for a story-heavy core game, because the minimalist approach always had such good characters with so little dialogue.
The white-haired lady (I believe her name is Burroughs) is the AI in the gauntlet the MC has but I think she's the one wrapping around Walter and Jonathan in the boxart (she doesn't really appear in the boxart much but in a scan there was a full picture with a character with black lips like her's in the background). Wonder what her role is.
I can imagine her filling a role like Arthur in SJ. If everything goes sour for everyone else as is usually the case, she'll still be there.
TurnipFritters
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She is almost assuredly the woman that Steven mentions.
Fimbulvetr
Member
If that is her, she looks slightly different for each alignment. I wonder if she changes depending on your choice.
Chie Satonaka
Member
Hype levels rising.
Fuck me I want this.
Persona opened the door, I love all things SMT now. At some point, I'm gonna play the older games.
...Why haven't the older games been remade on the 3DS yet?
StreetsAhead
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This looks great. What should I do in preparation for this game if I've never played a Shin Megami Tensei (or any spin off) before?
SJ's law faction is also kind of reasonable, all things considered.
Play Digital Devil Saga if you need a forgiving entry into the series that will give you plenty of time to learn the mechanics, while never really fucking you on character building options.
Then play SMT Nocturne and Persona 4 to experience the franchise at its best. Or you could play all of them. They are all good.
...except Ronde. Don't play Ronde.
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