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So with Steam Deck out do think Nintendo will take there hardware seriously.
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JimboJones
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We've always had emulation with Nintendo handhelds I don't think it will factor in much but if handheld pcs as an overall ecosystem start growing maybe it will influence them to come up with novel ( or gimmicky depending on how well it's handled) hardware that's not easy to emulate well.
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
Steam Deck has made practically zero impact in the sales or consumer interest of the Switch. Switch has a completely different (and exponentially larger) consumer base.
Nintendo honestly couldn’t care less about the Steam Deck.
Nintendo honestly couldn’t care less about the Steam Deck.
Chukhopops
Member
Well we can already assume any Switch successor won’t be as large as Steam Deck, will have a lower price point and will target a longer battery life.
Based on that I would expect at best similar performance depending on how far in the future it is. Most likely worse performance overall.
And that’s fine, that would still give a huge gap compared to Switch hardware.
Based on that I would expect at best similar performance depending on how far in the future it is. Most likely worse performance overall.
And that’s fine, that would still give a huge gap compared to Switch hardware.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Nintendo cares even less about Steam Deck than they do about PS5 and XSX
asdasdasdbb
Member
I think Steam Deck level performance is reasonable for Switch 2.
DeadOblivion78
Member
Nintendo has games that people care about more than the power of the hardware is concerned.
Deerock71
Member
RoboFu
One of the green rats
I mean you guys act as if they made the switch yesterday. At the time it was pretty nice mobile tech.
Do you guys not see the absurdity here?
When the switch launched is was “ not as good as the home consoles “. Now it’s “ not as good as currently released mobile tech”
Do you guys not see the absurdity here?
When the switch launched is was “ not as good as the home consoles “. Now it’s “ not as good as currently released mobile tech”
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AngelMuffin
Member
I’d rather them keep making incredible games that are extremely well made, fun, with timeless art direction. You don’t need top-of-the-line specs to do that.
DaleinCalgary
Member
Don't hope for a new Nintendo console too soon, they fuck up every 2nd one.
remember_spinal
Banned
Nintendo sells more switch’s in a week than steamdeck sells in a month, so I doubt they even know or care what a steamdeck is.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
do you think the laughing emojis you got on this post will make you take your grammar more seriously?
FearlessBelgian
Member
Nop.
100% sure that the Switch 2 is going to be less powerfull than the Steam Deck.
100% sure that the Switch 2 is going to be less powerfull than the Steam Deck.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
Not true the snes was godly.
Topher
Gold Member
But both of those statements are true. When Switch was released, Tegra X1 was already three years old. Now personally, I'm not really hung up on the power aspect of Switch since I bought if for very different reasons than I did PS5 and XSX, but if we are going to look at the tech itself then it is getting pretty old.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
they do know. All they know about it is that it's a legal headache.
Look at how many deck videos are struck down whenever theres a switch game running on a deck
that being said they have no reason to care when their console is outdoing the deck in sales and will sell more than it ever will
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Killer8
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In terms of a direct hardware comparison, obviously Steam Deck is more powerful. But just comparing power levels overlooks a lot of other design considerations.
The Deck is larger and less portable than the Switch. The Deck's dock requires an additional purchase, whereas on Switch the dock is included in the box. The Deck uses a dogshit LCD screen, whereas Switch has had a beautiful OLED for the last couple of years. A Switch is cheaper than the base model of Deck, and drastically cheaper than the NVMe models of Deck (which most people actually want). Battery life on the Switch OLED model is minimum 4.5 hours on max brightness, while Deck can dip to as low as 1.5 on the heaviest games.
I love my Deck and my Switch, but it is clear that the Switch is the more balanced system in terms of real world usability.
The Deck is larger and less portable than the Switch. The Deck's dock requires an additional purchase, whereas on Switch the dock is included in the box. The Deck uses a dogshit LCD screen, whereas Switch has had a beautiful OLED for the last couple of years. A Switch is cheaper than the base model of Deck, and drastically cheaper than the NVMe models of Deck (which most people actually want). Battery life on the Switch OLED model is minimum 4.5 hours on max brightness, while Deck can dip to as low as 1.5 on the heaviest games.
I love my Deck and my Switch, but it is clear that the Switch is the more balanced system in terms of real world usability.
asdasdasdbb
Member
If the Switch 2 was released at the end of 2024, that would be 3 years from the Steam Deck's release. You feel like they should be able to do at least that performance with the amount of time that has passed.
FearlessBelgian
Member
Never underestimate Nintendo... Never.
remember_spinal
Banned
Being a hybrid and needing to build the console around portable battery will always bottleneck it in terms of performance.
Nintendo releasing a newer console well into the mid gen of the other two platforms really doesn’t guarantee them good third party support. They may get some more last gen games ported though
Nintendo releasing a newer console well into the mid gen of the other two platforms really doesn’t guarantee them good third party support. They may get some more last gen games ported though
lostinblue
Banned
Not a chance. They worry about it of course, but the thing for Nintendo is cost and predictability.
Meaning they will never be aggressive with clocks and they'll never overspend. If they were to release a Steam Deck of their own with the same parts it would be underclocked and have less RAM.
Because it's Nintendo, basically. Nvidia will probably give them a bit of a efficiency fighting chance with DLSS and all, they can probably match PS4 IQ rendering less resolution internally and having less Flops attached... and they'll roll with it.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
No
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
The only thing Nintendo takes seriously is making money.
So if it means cutting corners they’ll do it, because they’re not taking a loss on hardware.
I’m not even confident we’ll see Switch BC, because they’re trained their audience to expect nothing, and deal with it.
So if it means cutting corners they’ll do it, because they’re not taking a loss on hardware.
I’m not even confident we’ll see Switch BC, because they’re trained their audience to expect nothing, and deal with it.
AndrewRyan
Member
Not yet but Switch owners who get a Steam Deck buy significantly less Nintendo software from then on. Tick tock.
Robb
Gold Member
If they get some actual competition in the space I guess they could get forced to make competitive hardaware at some point.
Has Steam Deck even sold 3M units yet though? It’s probably not even a blip on Nintendo’s radar so I very much doubt it’ll have any influence on anything they do.
Has Steam Deck even sold 3M units yet though? It’s probably not even a blip on Nintendo’s radar so I very much doubt it’ll have any influence on anything they do.
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TheGodfather07
Member
Can we expect the next Nintendo system to atleast be on par with the standard PS4 specs?
I'm sure Nintendo will adjust their software sales target for those 4 people.
lostinblue
Banned
I'd expect it to be "semi-on par" I'd say.
Not against PS4, necessarily, perhaps better compared with Xbox One because no way they'll hit 1.8 TFlops and also employ ram with good bandwidth which are perks PS4 still has.
Not on par and not better, only almost as good and in some areas more advanced which will be needed to cover the distance in actual specs.
Where they might surpass PS4 and Xbox One is CPU, providing they don't underclock it into oblivion.
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TheGodfather07
Member
So kinda like wii u then. Which was similar to PS3 and 360.
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lostinblue
Banned
Exactly. On paper it was actually worse but it was able to do some modern things "for free" which helped greatly with exclusives and rendering 1080p natively. But in direct conversions, it was crap as ram bandwidth was laughable and raw floating point capabilities were lower. Funny that Microsoft seemingly copied part of the console layout for their Xbox One console, slow DDR3 bandwidth and slapping some eDRAM to make up for it despite how shit that methodology had gone for Nintendo just before.
Wii U still managed to improve image quality over PS360 though, which I wouldn't expect against PS4.
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IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Fingers crossed.
Nintendo hardware has a real Fisher-Price energy. I know they're games are still designed for children, but that doesn't mean the hardware needs to be weak as a kitten.
Hopefully, they're Switch successor (Super Switch?) with have at least the power of 3080 GPU and 32GB of RAM. This thing needs to not only compete with the Stamdeck, but needs to blow it out of the water.
Nintendo hardware has a real Fisher-Price energy. I know they're games are still designed for children, but that doesn't mean the hardware needs to be weak as a kitten.
Hopefully, they're Switch successor (Super Switch?) with have at least the power of 3080 GPU and 32GB of RAM. This thing needs to not only compete with the Stamdeck, but needs to blow it out of the water.
OuterLimits
Member
You guys do remember the portable system Nintendo released before the Switch right? The Switch was a significant upgrade to the 3DS. I still can't believe I wasted money on Xenoblade for that system. My eyes still hate me for it. (Plus the regular 3DS couldn't even run the game, only the N3DS).
I get why people are anxious for Nintendo to announce plans for their next system. Lets look logically at what has occurred since the Switch released though. A massive worldwide pandemic followed by worldwide chip shortages and overall economy wide extensive supply chain issues(which we saw heavily impact Sony and Microsoft). Oh and now we have worldwide significant inflation issues.
So its really not shocking a Switch Pro didn't happen and they are probably being a bit slower to roll out their next gen system. I imagine it will be announced in the not too distant future though.
I get why people are anxious for Nintendo to announce plans for their next system. Lets look logically at what has occurred since the Switch released though. A massive worldwide pandemic followed by worldwide chip shortages and overall economy wide extensive supply chain issues(which we saw heavily impact Sony and Microsoft). Oh and now we have worldwide significant inflation issues.
So its really not shocking a Switch Pro didn't happen and they are probably being a bit slower to roll out their next gen system. I imagine it will be announced in the not too distant future though.