remember_spinal
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Wonder what this means, especially with the launch of ps premium
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Sony Creates Game Preservation Team
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Jonnie_Darko
Member
It means there is a preservation department now.
Papacheeks
Banned
This is awesome news. Just wondering why it took them so fucking long?
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
With a legacy like theirs...this is actually one of the best things i've read from Playstation this year. At least it shows they are starting to care about their legacy.
Laugh all you want but i always say gaming preservation is one of the worst problems about this industry overall.
In a time their consoles don't have a weird architecture anymore, it's time for them to actually pay attention to everything they released in the past.
This also tells me Playstation Plus will have its share of surprises.
Laugh all you want but i always say gaming preservation is one of the worst problems about this industry overall.
In a time their consoles don't have a weird architecture anymore, it's time for them to actually pay attention to everything they released in the past.
This also tells me Playstation Plus will have its share of surprises.
DangerDiabolik
Member
But PlayStation players don't care about backwards compatibility and don't buy new consoles to play old games. Or so they've been saying...
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remember_spinal
Banned
Seems like they are really committing to their legacy titles from this point on
kyliethicc
Member
Save Knack 2 please Jim
Bo_Hazem
Banned
I give zero fucks about any game 2-3 years old, let alone real old games. I'm not Sony fans though, I'm just one.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I also echo the sentiments hoping this means better legacy support. My money is there for them.
Papacheeks
Banned
Sounds like Jim Ryan was told to shut the fuck up. lol , but in all honesty I think people like digital foundry and the backlash from trying to close down psp/vita/ps3 store is what gave him a wake up call.
Hobbygaming
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Most gamers in general will choose newer games over BC games
They might dip in a game or two for nostalgia but numbers don't lie
Captain Toad
Banned
Not sure what strawmen you're talking to, but the facts show the vast majority of gamers don't play much BC games.
However, that population and the more hardcore gaming people that visit forums like GAF, tend to care more about these things.
Mr Moose
Member
Old games look like shit (PSOne/2 especially). Unless they do some kind of upscaling then they will still look like shit.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Jim Ryan finally gives a shit about old games?
mejin
Member
Mostly don't.
BC without New and great ips won't take you anywhere. But when you have both and a legacy like Playstation history...boom.
Sony is late to the party.
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Well its pretty easy to not care about something that isn't possible on your platform.
Then when it gets available then everyone wants it.
Mibu no ookami
Member
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Not believing in generations anymore, I guess ?
Good news if this is what we think it is. No idea what they're preserving right now until officially announced.
Good news if this is what we think it is. No idea what they're preserving right now until officially announced.
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Tiago Rodrigues
Member
i mean...i'm trying to imagine PS One games on an OLED and i'm actually laughing...
Doesn't mean this division is a bad thing to happen. These companies need to take care of their history. If they don't do it, no one will.
Kdad
Member
Great find.
DuckStation says hello, running at 4k resolution, 60fps patches and texture correction:
ChorizoPicozo
Member
Competition. (Lack of it)
nominedomine
Banned
Hopefully it means they will be working on native PS3 emulator running on PS5. Better late than never.
Something I wish these companies would get is how old games are supposed to look and learn from what emulator devs are doing on PC. Nothings is more disgusting than how they present their old games.
A PS1 game on a 4K screen without the proper CRT filters looks terrible, that's something so simple to fix that massively enhances how the games look, yet I doubt they'll bother with it. You can get away with increasing resolution on PS2 but when you do that to PS1 games is looks like complete shit.
Something I wish these companies would get is how old games are supposed to look and learn from what emulator devs are doing on PC. Nothings is more disgusting than how they present their old games.
A PS1 game on a 4K screen without the proper CRT filters looks terrible, that's something so simple to fix that massively enhances how the games look, yet I doubt they'll bother with it. You can get away with increasing resolution on PS2 but when you do that to PS1 games is looks like complete shit.
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Mr Moose
Member
I remember getting the mini PSOne and being hyped to revisit Metal Gear Solid, I started playing and it looked like shite
my damn rose tinted glasses.If they do something with old games they need a higher res.
Rayderism
Member
If a person plays on a PS1 or PS2, or (through an emulator) Sony really has no data as to how many people are playing those games. Those old consoles aren't online to report to Sony, and I doubt an emulator reports anything to them. So them saying no one plays old games is just supposition.
rickybooby87
Member
Sounds like someone has been listening over at PS HQ, I like it.
Oddvintagechap
Member
Convert all PS3 games into PS4 games, sell them as 10$ upgrades. EASY. Also put them in PS+++.
nominedomine
Banned
Specially since the half-assed way they do it usually offers the worse experience by far. Last year I bought FFVII on Steam, looks ridiculously bad. The PS1 version using on Retroarch with a good CRT filter at 4K looks gorgeous and close enough to how the game would look on a CRT.
Sony bothers with completely unnecessary things like injecting trophy support or some nonsense like that but gets completely outclasses by emulator on much more important things.
That PlayStation Classic they released was a complete abomination.
Yea, maybe the people that care aren't there because they are not providing what they want.
I bought PSOne classic on PS3 and got the shaft from Sony.
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bitbydeath
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That still remains true, the team is likely going to be aimed at filling the new PS+ with BC enhanced games. Hence the requirement.
AtomicStarving
Member
If they are truly serious about preservation then they should port their games to PC at least PS3 ones. But even an official emulator could be great news. Hopefully this is a first step towards the return of the old peak Sony (PS1 - PS2)
PS1 game visuals are an adquired taste even when downsampling to 4K and applying all enhancements in Duckstation. Incresing resolution can be detrimental at times. But high end PS2 games can look great just by increasing resolution and applying 16x AF. A good emulator should also help these games to hit target framerates more often.
PS1 game visuals are an adquired taste even when downsampling to 4K and applying all enhancements in Duckstation. Incresing resolution can be detrimental at times. But high end PS2 games can look great just by increasing resolution and applying 16x AF. A good emulator should also help these games to hit target framerates more often.
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Mibu no ookami
Member
Most major Sony PS3 games have PS4 ports that have preserved them. The ones that haven't largely aren't worth it.
This isn't about BC, it's about preserving games going forward making it easier to remaster and remake them.
CosmicComet
Member
A PS3 emulator would be awesome and welcome news.
I haven't had Sony news that made me happy in a long time but this would be huge for me.
I haven't had Sony news that made me happy in a long time but this would be huge for me.
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bitbydeath
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I don’t see that mentioned in the OP, just a guess or is there another source?
nominedomine
Banned
It turns out when Jim Ryan said PS1 Gran Turismo looked like shit he was just criticizing how poor Sony's emulator was. It probably did look like shit on an HD TV without filters.
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Ezquimacore
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If you really want game preservation buy a PC, even a potato pc will do the job these days.
nominedomine
Banned
MGS4, Killzone 2~3, Resistance 1~3, Infamous 1~2, Ratchet & Clank games (6 I think), Demon's Souls... come on.
Not to mention that with a proper emulator you could get access to third-party games that didn't get ported to PS4 as well like RDR or GTAIV.
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Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
I was thinking that. Maybe he felt that those games needed to be brought back to modern standards?
nominedomine
Banned
Jim Ryan redemption arc:
- He was criticizing Gran Turismo looks because he wanted better PS1 emulation.
- Crossgen games were just a late decision to make PS4 port of PS5 games because he was thinking of people who wouldn't be able to find a PS5.
- Lack of game announcement was to take pressure away from devs.
- $70 was him just keeping up with inflation so he wouldn't have to close down more studios like Japan Studios.
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