JackSparr0w
Banned
10th in 2022
I'm not sure how is that some sort of achievement?God of war is the best game of the entire last generation according to Sony fans.
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Sony sucks at porting games to PC
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I'm not sure how is that some sort of achievement?God of war is the best game of the entire last generation according to Sony fans.
MidGenRefresh
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JackSparr0w
Banned
Halo the master chief collection was twice as old and did twice as good.
MidGenRefresh
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It’s also 5 or God knows how many games + multiplayer. You’re no comparing apples to apples.
JackSparr0w
Banned
Age of empires 2 was 5 times as old and did twice as good.
You want me to keep going? PC gamers never cared about the age of a good game.
A bit hyperbole, the only disappointing port has been Uncharted 4. Sack Boy just has shader stutter, which affects a lot of games on PC right now and the rest provide more options than the console version such as ultra wide and high frame rate support.
edit: Do you remember the time when we had locked 16x9 games, either 720p or 1080p and 30fps caps?
edit: Do you remember the time when we had locked 16x9 games, either 720p or 1080p and 30fps caps?
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MidGenRefresh
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Again, it was a remake + multiplayer.
I’m only mentioning the age of the game to highlight how much time people had to play it on PlayStation. Despite God of War being exclusive to PlayStation since day one of the franchise, and 4 years passing since the release on PS4, it still managed to be one of the most popular games on PC that year.
What’s so hard to grasp? Seriously.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
I think they have been porting over some high profile games to PC like Spider-Man, God of War, Uncharted Collection, Days Gone and Horizon. Honestly though, I don’t think Sony even cares about Bloodborne, so who knows if we will ever see a port of that game on any platform.
BadBurger
Is 'That Pure Potato'
Well, I've only tried two. Spider-Man Remastered has been excellent, no complaints whatsoever. Runs 4K @ 120 fps ultra settings with no issues at all and does't even cause my fans to flare up all that much. Sackboy has some minor issues on the Deck (drastic fps drops) but runs flawlessly on my absurdly expensive desktop PC.
nkarafo
Member
Well, the RE2 and RE3 remakes run remarkably well on my aging 2014 PC with a 1060 GPU. I'm pretty much squeezing just as good performance and graphics as a PS4 pro. And the latest patches cleaned up most of microstutter issues i had.
Unreal 4 though... Worst engine since Unity.
I'm only just feeling the age on my 1070TI. It eats most of these console ports up at 1440p.
playsaves3
Member
Days gone doesn’t have a native ps5 version
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
To be fair every developer sucks at PC ports when the master race can't have everything on Ultra 120fps+
No matter what the game, what graphics is being displayed.
the developer needs to die a painful death if it so much as dips in frame rate while running at Ultra settings.
No matter what the game, what graphics is being displayed.
the developer needs to die a painful death if it so much as dips in frame rate while running at Ultra settings.
sainraja
Member
Well, I wouldn't say what he says seriously given he is quick to label people as "Sony fans" simply to dismiss a game tied to PlayStation. You are doing a good job not taking his bait but I think he is just trying to waste your time.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
I think they are rushing tons of games out simply to open up their schedule in 2023 and 2024 for all the GAAS games coming out (which will likely be day one PC games). Sony still have other popular franchises to port over as well if they feel like it like GT7 and Ghosts. And there's also LOU confirmed coming soon, as well as smaller sellers like R&C, Returnal and DS.
2023 will likely have some of these existing games port over and then when the GAAS games come out (are any even coming in 2023?) it'll give them an empty slate to have those as day one games. SP focused games like all the ones they've released (and the others above aside from GT7) can be ported over anytime. No different than old ass legacy games selling on Steam and GOG for ages. But for maximum impact for their game sales, they need open release windows for when the GAAS games come.
Bulletbrain
Member
The PC port quality is about what I've expected from Sony. I.e.quick port jobs with some added sprinkles like DLSS/FSR, some ray tracing etc, but not at all optimised for PC strengths. Doesn't take much money or time, and can sell at a high price for a brand new audience. It sucks...but it's the modern day industry in a nutshell. They are just profit seeking mega corporations after all. As usual, we have to vote with out wallets if the ports aren't upto scratch.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
What are you talking about man?
What task would you offload to a 3070 that the 2060 couldnt handle slower?
Isnt that literally what happens right now.
You send render tasks to the GPU, the 3070 does those tasks faster than a 2060 so your frametime goes down your frame rate goes up.
You are proving his point.
The last couple games were Sackboy which absolutely no one was asking for and Uncharted 4. Porting the 4th title in a character/story driven saga is pointless. Might as well just do Little Big Planet next for another L.
Considering how popular the Souls series is they would have to be morons to not care about it.
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MidGenRefresh
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I know. Sony needs to put more effort into providing better experience on PlayStation 5 for their first party games, right?
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
They should provide much more support for their PC games first. They have already established their customer base on console after all
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Ahhh so just because they are established, they can provide subpar experience on their flagship console. You’re right, makes sense!
Mowcno
Member
Nah. They put more effort than I'd expect into their pc ports. Ultra-wide, improved graphics, DLSS/FSR. They do a good job even if they have some performance teething troubles sometimes.
If they really sucked at porting their games the steam user reviews would reflect that. Bad console ports always get hammered on steam reviews.
If they really sucked at porting their games the steam user reviews would reflect that. Bad console ports always get hammered on steam reviews.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
I feel 2 rather undesirable games out of 6(?) games isn’t really bad though especially in this relatively short time frame. Most of those games are still considered large franchises as far as the PlayStation brand goes. Apparently the Souls series is not popular enough to Sony because many people have been begging for a sequel to Bloodborne or even a remake for years and Sony seemingly keeps ignoring it. Maybe they’ll prove me wrong soon, but I have my doubts.
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playsaves3
Member
It’s just dissapointing they went through the effort of Making a curated pc version but no ps5 versión alongside it
squarealex
Member
Once again... is DX12 fault...
I mean... LOOK THIS
No stutter on Vulkan... Suttering on DX12...
I mean... LOOK THIS
No stutter on Vulkan... Suttering on DX12...
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Why do so many forget PS4/5 don't run on windows and the install base on PC of non-windows OS means it's not commercially viable, therefore you have "tech debt" and "lack of optimisation talent" for the windows PC targets. Sony and associated studios are very well versed with optimising for PS hardware/software. Absolutely stellar there. They're shit and not built for purpose when porting to PC. It's not just Sony keeping a walled garden for day one releases either, they're literally stuck with a highly optimised console/dev pipeline for PS and therefore their ports are always going to suffer or be behind.
There's a reason Sony first party get a lot out of their console hardware but it's a double edged sword in terms of shit or late PC ports. There's a reason Xbox moved to a more unified architecture for hardware and software generations ago, it's also what is enabling Game Pass/PC Game Pass to have such parity with day one releases and optimisations by comparison to Sony.
I'd love to see Sony do similar to Xbox in this regard, I'd happily buy Spidey 1 & 2 (and others) on PC to game as someone with zero interest in owning a PS5. I don't see that happening for two reasons, one Sony don't want to move away from their console walled garden and two their tech debt for such parity is too great and would delay the core releases/quality. At the very least they would have to refactor their pipelines, tools, possible hardware/software etc. It's a case of too hard, not fit for purpose and corporate mentality change required.
There's a reason Sony first party get a lot out of their console hardware but it's a double edged sword in terms of shit or late PC ports. There's a reason Xbox moved to a more unified architecture for hardware and software generations ago, it's also what is enabling Game Pass/PC Game Pass to have such parity with day one releases and optimisations by comparison to Sony.
I'd love to see Sony do similar to Xbox in this regard, I'd happily buy Spidey 1 & 2 (and others) on PC to game as someone with zero interest in owning a PS5. I don't see that happening for two reasons, one Sony don't want to move away from their console walled garden and two their tech debt for such parity is too great and would delay the core releases/quality. At the very least they would have to refactor their pipelines, tools, possible hardware/software etc. It's a case of too hard, not fit for purpose and corporate mentality change required.
Buggy Loop
Member
Satellite studios for PC ports are behind most of the complaints in this thread though. Naughty Dog is probably one of the few that even put that much effort in Last of Us but even there, there’s a port house.
Zekra Dezivad
Member
Don't Xbox and PC games shares the same API (DirectX)?
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Just another sign/symptom of the Sony double edged tech issues being "great for PS console but shit for PC releases", irrespective of inhouse devs or outsourcing partners. The core benefits vs tech and optimisation issues remain the same.
EDIT: Given the maybe 3-5% swing difference we see in DF tech reviews who cares at this current gen? I'd rather parity releases and less tech debt for day one releases and crossplay. I suppose that's part of why I go with Xbox over Sony this gen.
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winjer
Gold Member
Yes. But the DirectX version on consoles has extensions that are even lower level, than the DX12 on PC.
I think Spider-Man is on pc.
Captain Toad
Banned
They just prioritize PS5. Nothing wrong with that. If you want the best version, buy the console the games were designed for. But, now at least there is an option for others.
theclaw135
Banned
It has been a while. Sony tried PC ports of early PS1 games (Twisted Metal, Jet Moto, etc), but they sold a fraction of the console release.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
And most importantly the port job isnt being done by The Coalition, so expect bad news when a game is announced as DX12 only.
Calverz
Member
I think the games released on pc so far definitely prioritised ps5 because when a lot of these were in heavy development, it probably wasn’t considered for pc. I imagine all the stuff that’s in heavy development now will be made for ps5 and pc simulataneously so I expect the Sony pc games to improve over time. But I think naughty dog will be disappointed with this port as I’m sure they will want pc players to get hyped for factions 2.
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Dr. Wilkinson
Member
It’s new for them. They’re learning, give it time.
Hot5pur
Member
Guys give Sony time, in the meantime give every single shit port they put out a free pass. It's ok that they release these and charge people money hoping they'll just overlook the issues for now.
What kind of anti-consumer attitude is that? Sounds very fanboyish. Why are people so tribal about console companies, owning a specific console does not make anyone special. These are profit driven entities and they'll sell you a turd sandwich if they could. They should absolutely be raked over the coals for this nonsense and clearly pushing out something half baked hoping what? People wouldn't notice?
Edit: having said that, I am considering a PS5 now for exclusives as counting on good PC ports seems increasingly risky.
What kind of anti-consumer attitude is that? Sounds very fanboyish. Why are people so tribal about console companies, owning a specific console does not make anyone special. These are profit driven entities and they'll sell you a turd sandwich if they could. They should absolutely be raked over the coals for this nonsense and clearly pushing out something half baked hoping what? People wouldn't notice?
Edit: having said that, I am considering a PS5 now for exclusives as counting on good PC ports seems increasingly risky.
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CleverCaviar
Member
I'd previously been encouraged by Sony's PC efforts. It wasn't flawless, at all, but generally, it was somewhere between excellent and good. This TLOF port is a serious mis-step. It's sad because you'd *want* Naughty Dog (ND) to enter PC games on a high, but they now have a mountain to climb*. It feels similar to how Horizon released. Guerrilla Games did the engineering work and, last I checked, it's classed as an OK, perhaps good port. I'm hoping ND can do the same, and salvage their Steam score some. I hope there's some serious lessons learnt from both Sony and ND about this. It's just not worth releasing like this. Yeah, you can fix the code, but the damage to good will is harder to patch in.
* It can happen: No Man's Sky, Arkham Knight, and Horizon Zero Dawn are all now past their initial release traumas, but the engineering work had to be done to fix it all.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
its been 3 years!!!
Horizon came out in 2020. They have released TEN PS exclusives on PC since.
How much time do you want to give them? 30 years? 300 games? wtf.
Sneakysnake
Member
And Sony just got done suggesting that MS might release buggy versions COD on other platforms if the acquisition goes through 
"MS might start doing all the shady shit we have been doing. It's not faaairrr!!
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"MS might start doing all the shady shit we have been doing. It's not faaairrr!!
"