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[triplestation]

Wait, Spider-Man 3 is in your top three!?

TOP 3 BABY

sam raimi is a god

 

[Cutty Flam]

Ok this is now a Kung Pow thread.

 

[UnNamed]

Homecoming by far.

Holland is the perfect Peter Parker from the comics, not the just too old Mcguire, not the just too cool Garfield. Talky and a little bit annoying.

Homecoming is good because it's not an origin story, we already have Spiderman, his responsibility, the many things he lost for that. We have everything without having to retell the story again and again. Zendaya is terrific in that movie.

 

[JimmyRustler]

Spder-Man 2, closely followed by Spider-Man 1.

 

[Yoboman]

I voted Spiderman 2 but forgot about Into the Spiderverse

Definitely that

 

[GymWolf]

So many people voting for the most disappointing spider-man.

Spider-man 2 was so bad for so many reasons. Why does anyone think it was good? Doc Ock’s arms got you all in a trance too?

As opposed to what? The shitty modern ones with depressed mary jane and nerd flash thompson? or the garfields combo that no one gives a fuck about?!

 

[acm2000]

into the spider-verse, and its not even close

 

[ClanOfNone]

Spider-verse is better than all the live action Marvel flicks put together.
Spider-Man 2 and Doc Ock easily take the number 2 spot.

 

[Hulk_Smash]

As opposed to what? The shitty modern ones with depressed mary jane and nerd flash thompson? or the garfields combo that no one gives a fuck about?!

Why do you assume I am interested in defending those Spider-Man movies?

 

[GymWolf]

Why do you assume I am interested in defending those Spider-Man movies?

Then they are all bad?

 

[Banjo64]

Spider-Man 2 followed by Spider-Man.

2 iconic villains performed by iconic actors; Doc Oc and Green Goblin.

The rest are ok/fun flicks but none of the villains hold up for me. Big chasm between those 2 films and the rest.

 

[Hulk_Smash]

Medical? Spiderman powers are space magic, nobody has any idea how they work even in the comics, the idea of his powers being tied to his will makes as much sense as the powers themselves.

Suspension of disbelief. I can suspend my disbelief for the sake of the story when it comes to him getting bitten with a general sci-fi explanation that’s at least in the ballpark. So, Spider-man’s powers are not space magic because they are rooted in science fiction not fantasy like Star Wars is.

But then they introduce something that has no roots in science fiction- basically introduce space magic- in Spider-Man 2, and then offer no explanation and expect you to trust them (the filmmakers).

It was when Peter went to see Dr Connors and Dr Connors didn’t question anything about his secret identity and instead gave him that bullshit moral speech that my suspension of disbelief snapped like a rubber band and I “noped the hell out”.

Apparently people like mixing science fiction with space magic and not being given an explanation as to why that major plot point exists because I mean, look at the poll results.

 

[Hulk_Smash]

Then they are all bad?

Did I say that?

There’s a whole lotta assumin’ goin’ on.

 

[TGO]

Followed by Spider-Man 2002, then TASM

and in defence of TASM I leave this here.
It truly is underrated

 

[Keihart]

Suspension of disbelief. I can suspend my disbelief for the sake of the story when it comes to him getting bitten with a general sci-fi explanation that’s at least in the ballpark. So, Spider-man’s powers are not space magic because they are rooted in science fiction not fantasy like Star Wars is.

But then they introduce something that has no roots in science fiction- basically introduce space magic- in Spider-Man 2, and then offer no explanation and expect you to trust them (the filmmakers).

It was when Peter went to see Dr Connors and Dr Connors didn’t question anything about his secret identity and instead gave him that bullshit moral speech that my suspension of disbelief snapped like a rubber band and I “noped the hell out”.

Apparently people like mixing science fiction with space magic and not being given an explanation as to why that major plot point exists because I mean, look at the poll results.

If you wanna get picky about it, Peter gaining super powers from a radioactive super soldier spider is a bigger jump in space magic than him suppressing some gene expression with his mood.
Gene expression is not completely understood but is know to be affected by behavior, not only that , but the way you live will even affect the genes that are passed on to your offspring.

Also, when i mentioned space magic i was making a reference to the actual full origin of spiderman powers at the times of the movies, which involved actual magic and destiny forces and shit like that.

 

[Star-Lord]

TOP 3 BABY

sam raimi is a god

 

[Hulk_Smash]

If you wanna get picky about it, Peter gaining super powers from a radioactive super soldier spider is a bigger jump in space magic than him suppressing some gene expression with his mood.
Gene expression is not completely understood but is know to be affected by behavior, not only that , but the way you live will even affect the genes that are passed on to your offspring.

Also, when i mentioned space magic i was making a reference to the actual full origin of spiderman powers at the times of the movies, which involved actual magic and destiny forces and shit like that.

You’re explanation for losing his powers was better than the one they gave in the movie (which was no explanation).

His origins weren’t space magic. There was a plausible scientific explanation given in the first movie when the scientist lady is talking to the students. The biggest leap of faith the audience had to make was accepting the fact that a spider can give you powers and not make you sick and kill you.

I don’t know where you are getting space magic from. What superhero movies were they prevelsnt in 15 years ago?

 

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[Keihart]

You’re explanation for losing his powers was better than the one they gave in the movie (which was no explanation).

His origins weren’t space magic. There was a plausible scientific explanation given in the first movie when the scientist lady is talking to the students. The biggest leap of faith the audience had to make was accepting the fact that a spider can give you powers and not make you sick and kill you.

I don’t know where you are getting space magic from. What superhero movies were they prevelsnt in 15 years ago?

I meant the comics, it's been referenced that the real origin of Spiderman's powers are mystical or some shit like that so that it makes more sense since the spider dna angle is so far fetched to give him his abilities.
I think that getting hanged up on Peter's will affecting his powers is ridiculous if you can accept a spider bite made him able to climb buildings and resist the forces of a web swing.

 

[SafeOrAlone]

Far From Home? Explain yourself, please.

 

[QuantumZebra]

SM1 vs. 2 is really tough. They nailed the origin and Willem Dafoe absolutely killed it as Green Goblin.

SM2 is arguably the best cape flick ever made, though. Just absolutely fantastic.

Into the Spider-Verse is easily 3.

 

[Wunray]

Spiderman 2 followed by into the spiderverse

 

[LaughingStock]

Ok this is now a Kung Pow thread.

ONE OF THE BEST MOVIES EVER MADE.

 

[Amory]

I don't think any of them are particularly incredible movies. There are a lot of modern MCU films I'd rather watch.

But the first Maguire film set a new standard for what a superhero movie should be. Spider-Man 2 is arguably a better plot, but the first is more influential. Plus, Willem Dafoe.

 

[Hulk_Smash]

I meant the comics, it's been referenced that the real origin of Spiderman's powers are mystical or some shit like that so that it makes more sense since the spider dna angle is so far fetched to give him his abilities.
I think that getting hanged up on Peter's will affecting his powers is ridiculous if you can accept a spider bite made him able to climb buildings and resist the forces of a web swing.

I didn’t actually know that and I read Marvel comics back then. Evolving origin stories are not uncommon in comics, but they’re usually a bad idea.

That being said if it was only that plot point that was my hang up, I wouldn’t mind. But, it’s one problem among many and it’s not even the main one.

 

[Cutty Flam]

You have to hand it to Sam Raimi. Those first three Spider-Man movies are easily the greatest superhero films made to date

Almost every scene in the first Spider-Man is a classic

 

[BaneIsPain]

Spider-Man 2 or bust. I am still not sold on Tom Holland spidey stand-alone movies.

 

[Cutty Flam]

Still need to watch Tom Holland's work as Spider-Man. Interested to see how he compares, some have told me he's great

 

[TheThreadsThatBindUs]

Although Raimi's first two Spider-man movies were better movies overall, ASM was elevated primarily because of Andrew Garfield (best Peter Parker by a country mile) and his incredible chemistry with Emma Stone.

In fact, despite the fact that ASM2 was an utter shit movie, Andrew and Emma's Chemistry is the only thing that makes the whole shallow episode watchable.

 

[SafeOrAlone]

Suspension of disbelief is a fickle mistress.

I was thinking about Venom the other day, and one of my hang-ups with that film, is the way the symbiote so casually speaks the English language, slang and all, with no explanation. Even to the extent of metaphors like "turd in the wind".

I can handle Peter getting powers from a radioactive spider, but not that.

 

[Rest]

Hey Cutty Flam , you left some out:

Spider-Man


Spider-Man Strikes Back


Spider-Man: The Dragon's Challenge