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Square Enix FY24 Q2 Earnings - Net sales up, operating income down | Franchise sales update - Final Fantasy at 185M units & Dragon Quest at 88M units
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Mister Wolf
Gold Member
Rekindle a Xenogears remake like you did for Star Ocean 2. Xenogears was already 2.5D.
yazenov
Member
Square-Enix should release Star Ocean 2 remake, Final Fantasy 16, and Final Fantasy 7 remake 2 on Xbox and Gamepass to double their sales if not triple their engagement—such a waste of opportunity cost.
One could say that Square Enix shot themselves in the foot with this decision to pass on Xbox instead of Gamepassing their game on it as far as I am concerned since I'm an expert in this subject.
One could say that Square Enix shot themselves in the foot with this decision to pass on Xbox instead of Gamepassing their game on it as far as I am concerned since I'm an expert in this subject.
Mr.Phoenix
Member
Release on Xbox I get, but how does releasing on gamepass help them?
It's sarcasm.
Punished Miku
Gold Member
He's just having a completely unprovoked console war meltdown for no reason. Don't worry about it.
Mr.Phoenix
Member
phew, thanks lol. I was wondering if I woke up in the twilight zone again.
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
Likely in the range of 4-5mil.
FF franchise sales have increased by 5mil from 180mil to over 185mil from the previous quarter and the game sold 3mil week one but like most FF games are frontloaded. So 4-5mil is a safe bet.
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yazenov
Member
I'm just posting this before those so-called "experts" posts in every SE financials thread.
Na he has a point considering net sales were up and good but they had bad development cost amortisation which would have only got worse.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
I am not sure if FF remasters are not included in these numbers though. If FF16 had 5m, they would have told during the call.
Punished Miku
Gold Member
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
They will be included in the numbers. It probably not at 5mil yet, but somewhere between 4-5mil. My guess is we get a sales update with the announcement of the PC release which may be at TGA. Hopefully a sneak peak of the 2 DLC's as well.
Unknown?
Member
Lol they couldn't double their sells before gamepass, it's dead now if they do.
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Thick Thighs Save Lives
Gold Member
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Thick Thighs Save Lives
Gold Member
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
GHG
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Punished Miku
Gold Member
I bought it. Just need to clone myself so I have time to play it.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Nothing to help. It didn’t sell shit
I have the only steelbook of it that existed
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Nothing to help. It didn’t sell shit
I have the only steelbook of it that existed
As seen in my local GameStop.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Get 2. On my responsibilityAs seen in my local GameStop.
Efren is G.O.A.T.
Member
Time to make a Chrono Trigger remake or a sequel!
Punished Miku
Gold Member
Breaking news: Adamsapple's thumb is hairy.As seen in my local GameStop.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
It is clear that FF16 has no legs.
Maybe SE learnt the leason but I doubt it
Maybe SE learnt the leason but I doubt it
yazenov
Member
Hey, I'm sure alot of Xbox fans would love to engage with Tifa, if you know what I mean.Lol they couldn't double their sells before gamepass, it's dead now if they do.
Edit* You got me!
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
Square probably won't get much revenue on Xbox from game sales, but there's probably good money to be made cutting deals with MS for some of the more popular games which are console exclusive to PS, like FF7R, FF16 etc... In terms of cutting deals for bringing these to the platform in the first place (GP or in general).
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Thick Thighs Save Lives
Gold Member
It went down in price so fast (way quicker than ubisoft games). I think I got the game 2 months after release for around €15 new.As seen in my local GameStop.
MoreJRPG
Suffers from extreme PDS
Whatever they are, they're awful, otherwise they'd be trumpeting it around to investors. Another console exclusive miss by SE. Maybe they'll start releasing games everywhere if they want to move units.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
FFXV remains one of my favorite games of the last 10 years. I just adore that game, warts and all. I'd buy the shit out of a Switch 2 port that looked & ran as well as on PS4 Pro.
It's not that their games aren't modern, it's that they tend to have a hard time breaking out with those mega blockbusters that can do 10+ million sales at full price. Even with XV they struggled to get past 10 million, and that was with discounting.
XVI has no chance of that, given the reception and how it turned out, especially being not every platform. I think the next Dragon Quest will help, as well as the DQ 3 remake, and they just need to hit it out of the park with KH 4 and make it a giant blockbuster.
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Fake
Member
In the trash bin for sure.
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Dr. Wilkinson
Member
I don't understand your question. Releasing a game on Game Pass means Xbox pays you millions of dollars without needing to sell individual copies. That's the transaction. I think with some agreements there's also recurring revenue built in as well, under certain agreements. You would also get a slice of any copy sold on your game through Xbox, since Game Pass subscribers get a discount for buying a game, which also benefits the publisher selling the game.
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Dr. Wilkinson
Member
I can think of a handful of excellent games that would greatly benefit from a port to Xbox Series. Harvestella, Octopath II (already confirmed early 2024), and Bravely Default II. SE can make millions just launching them into Game Pass, and also sell individual copies via Xbox as well.
Flutta
Banned
Single Player games are doig fine... not great but Fine.
Dawntrails will fix the MMO part of their earnings, also FFXIV on XBox could give it a boost too.
Mobile ? I don't think Ever Crisis is in a good enough Shape to be the savior they're looking for.
In general, Square is doing alright, nothing catastrophic here.
Dawntrails will fix the MMO part of their earnings, also FFXIV on XBox could give it a boost too.
Mobile ? I don't think Ever Crisis is in a good enough Shape to be the savior they're looking for.
In general, Square is doing alright, nothing catastrophic here.
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YukiOnna
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Ever Crisis is doing pretty solid in its past 2 months that the developers openly mentioned it and they announced a PC version in development. So, at the very least, it locked a few more years of service. It's not enough to offset the 5-6 other underperforming or end service titles, but it certainly has life.
Mr.Phoenix
Member
Do you really want this to be addressed?
Ah well, I guess there was bound to be one person who would have taken what he said seriously.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
. I try to keep it simple and straight to the point, and as factual as possible.
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DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Square needs to remake some of my favorite niche titles from 25+ years ago, that will really turn their finances around.
Mr.Phoenix
Member
factual? even MS themselves and their partners alluded to gamepass canalizing sales. And then you expect a publisher to take their single biggest release of the year and put it on gamepass? how much do you think MS pays publishers for a game on gamepass? Say there are 5 million downloads, would MS pay them $250M?
they have sold around 5M copies of the game on PS5, so say that comes in at $300M in revenue, would MS match that?
And pls, why are you pretending that people would go out and buy the game for $70 if they can play it for $15 on gamepass? Are we still in 2020? Isn there enough evidence now?
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Its interesting they have stop sharing FF16 numbers
